Question are video card prices headed down yet?

[mastertech01]

That is the spirit, and actually I only game a couple of hours /week so I doubt I would notice any way.

Same here, and my games are 20 years old... LOL

 

[igor_kavinski]

That is the spirit, and actually I only game a couple of hours /week so I doubt I would notice any way.

You really must go with Raptor Lake. More heart warming for you than Zen 4

And of course, 4090 the portable nuclear reactor

 

[biostud]

Same here, and my games are 20 years old... LOL

I more or less only play World of Tanks, and then every Tuesday I play with some friends from high school, as we all live in different parts of the country.

 

[CP5670]

With the electricity price atm, you still have to take into account that if next gen RDNA3 is +50% performance/watt then buying current gen will cost you on the electric bill.

Not just the power of the card itself, but the power needed to run AC in the summer to cool down the room enough. This is a bigger issue for me already, as the PC heats up my living room enough that I have to turn up the AC to compensate for it.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Or wood pellets.

One of my friends just paid ~20.000DKK for 4 (metric / 4000kg) tons. All he could get. That's 5DKK (US$ 0.67) per kg. Absolutely insane.

Further, there'll be a supply shortage in a few months is nothing else happens:

https://nyheder.tv2.dk/business/202...-joergensen-vi-loeber-toer-for-traepiller-til

(in danish, so some google translate required for English speakers)

 

[Insert_Nickname]

-Im like "what kind of third world hellhole does this guy live in?!"

Looks up DKK.

Third world hellhole is very apt. I'd call us a Banana Republic right now, but that's an insult to decent, honest, upstanding Banana Republics.

I'm only half joking.

 

[Aapje]

Also, starting to see "Lot of 50 GPUs" showing up on eBay as well.

Getting aggressive with my "make offer" prices, my blurb goes a little like "Proof of Stake is hitting Mid-September, New cards will be announced soon, new card prices keep dropping. Let me know if you'd like to move this card for a fair price"

~$275 for 6700xt/3070 class performance

~$325 for 6800/3080 class performance

~$375 for top of class 6900xt/3090 performance.
I can wait, the sellers cannot.

Seems rather pointless. People are not going to see those prices as realistic until the market is flooded with cards and the only offers they get are around those prices.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Seems rather pointless. People are not going to see those prices as realistic until the market is flooded with cards and the only offers they get are around those prices.

- I consider it honest work, informing ebay sellers of whats coming. Maybe someone bites and I get a card sooner rather than later. Maybe someone doesn't but enough doubt will be introduced that they'll rethink their asking price when their card starts sitting for weeks. Costs me hardly nothing (I rather enjoy making staggeringly low offers) while it might end up having a really high payoff.

Mining flood helps no one if everyone is still asking stupid high prices for their cards and willing to sit on them for ages. Gotta start social engineering now.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Mining flood helps no one if everyone is still asking stupid high prices for their cards and willing to sit on them for ages.

Their loss. Once the nextgen launches, those cards are going to depreciate even more. A lot of people may decide to wait for new card availability than sink money in oldgen.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Not just the power of the card itself, but the power needed to run AC in the summer to cool down the room enough. This is a bigger issue for me already, as the PC heats up my living room enough that I have to turn up the AC to compensate for it.

It's a concern for me too with how wildly hot Texas has been this summer. Really wish we'd get nice low power cards again like when GTX 1060 6GB offered previous gen 80 series performance at 120W. Hate that I'm going to have to go way up in power consumption to 180-200W if I want something that would be a nice upgrade from my current 1660 Super, eg like a 6600 XT or a 3060 Ti.

 

[sdifox]

That is the spirit, and actually I only game a couple of hours /week so I doubt I would notice any way.

You are close to destroying the Danish power grid! Shame on you! /Larry

 

[jpiniero]

Their loss. Once the nextgen launches, those cards are going to depreciate even more. A lot of people may decide to wait for new card availability than sink money in oldgen.

We're a long away from those cards being available though except maybe the 4090 and N31.

 

[igor_kavinski]

We're a long away from those cards being available though except maybe the 4090 and N31.

I'm hoping AMD will launch their mainstream cards before December.

 

[jpiniero]

I'm hoping AMD will launch their mainstream cards before December.

Unlikely because I think AMD got scared off of releasing desktop N33 and shifted the N6 wafers to some other product. The laptop models will probally get announced at CES but given AMD's previous launches, who knows when you might see a laptop with N33 in stores.

You'll see it eventually but short of a mining surge I think it will be awhile.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Third world hellhole is very apt. I'd call us a Banana Republic right now, but that's an insult to decent, honest, upstanding Banana Republics.

I'm only half joking.

At this rate you can just burn used video cards.

 

[CP5670]

It's a concern for me too with how wildly hot Texas has been this summer. Really wish we'd get nice low power cards again like when GTX 1060 6GB offered previous gen 80 series performance at 120W. Hate that I'm going to have to go way up in power consumption to 180-200W if I want something that would be a nice upgrade from my current 1660 Super, eg like a 6600 XT or a 3060 Ti.

My PC uses 500-600W at the wall while gaming and the OLED TV uses another 200-300W. It's enough to heat up even a large room after a while. A 4090 would bump the PC up by another 100-150W.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

At this rate you can just burn used video cards.

Well. The Germans are already burning brown coal. Now, I don't know if you've ever experienced the smell of burning brown coal. The memories of that smell takes me back 30 years to "good old" East Germany (really just the whole Eastern Block in general). Yuck. The exact opposite of nostalgia.

It's also **** poor fuel, so you have to burn -a lot- of it.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Not just the power of the card itself, but the power needed to run AC in the summer to cool down the room enough. This is a bigger issue for me already, as the PC heats up my living room enough that I have to turn up the AC to compensate for it.

I commiserate with you in lamenting our first world problem. Unnecessary/excessive power, heat, and noise, are things I no longer tolerate My most powerful system is a 5800X in ECO mode with a 3060ti. I spend more time on a mITX Ryzen 5600 + RX 6600XT using Radeon Chill. Sips power and is consequently cool and quiet. I am not buying another card that needs more than a single power connector. I don't know if I had warm feels for my Red Devil Vega 56 or it was using me as another heat sink.

And you bois in Denmark hush up about energy costs. The health insurance premiums for my family alone, are higher than all of the numbers you are throwing around. My kids back surgery saga would have been over $500,000 U.S.without it. I would gladly pay more for vidya cards and energy in exchange for your health care system.

On topic: My fervent hope is that we are going to need James Cameron Explorer of the Sea to find the bottom of the GPU market for us.

And now for this musical interlude -

His name is James Cameron, the bravest pioneer.
No budget too steep
No sea too deep
Who's that?!?
It's him!
James Cameron!
Explorer of the sea
With a dying thirst to be the first
Could it be?
It's him!
James Cameron!

 

[fleshconsumed]

I'm hoping AMD will launch their mainstream cards before December.

Unlikely because I think AMD got scared off of releasing desktop N33 and shifted the N6 wafers to some other product. The laptop models will probally get announced at CES but given AMD's previous launches, who knows when you might see a laptop with N33 in stores.

You'll see it eventually but short of a mining surge I think it will be awhile.

Yeah, all the news indicate that only high end cards will be released this year. Best you can expect is cut down dies, something like 7800 (next gen 6800 equivalent) or 4080. We'll probably have to wait until next year for 7700xt/4070 and below.

I'm periodically checking ebay and buy it now/starting auction prices are still stubbornly high. People are emotional and they don't like selling at a "loss" even though waiting would result in an even higher loss. But, there are definitely way more cards for sale now than even a month ago. The flood is starting to come in, I expect it to gain steam/peak 2 to 4 weeks after new cards are announced/available.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Best you can expect is cut down dies, something like 7800

I can live with that

 

[DeathReborn]

AMD pricing in the UK is a bit bonkers (MSRP in brackets)

6600 £280+ (£299) was available for £250 for a while
6600XT £350+ (£329)
6650XT £375+ (£389)
6700 £330+ (No MSRP) was available for £299 for a couple of weeks
6700XT £430+ (£419) Normally £450+ but has dropped to match 3060Ti recent drop in price, not hit MSRP yet.
6750XT £450+ (£531)
6800 £530+ (£530)

Some savings, some over MSRP & some just oddly positioned. Nvidia is still just mental though.

 

[mastertech01]

AMD pricing in the UK is a bit bonkers (MSRP in brackets)

6600 £280+ (£299) was available for £250 for a while
6600XT £350+ (£329)
6650XT £375+ (£389)
6700 £330+ (No MSRP) was available for £299 for a couple of weeks
6700XT £430+ (£419) Normally £450+ but has dropped to match 3060Ti recent drop in price, not hit MSRP yet.
6750XT £450+ (£531)
6800 £530+ (£530)

Some savings, some over MSRP & some just oddly positioned. Nvidia is still just mental though.

They raise the price so they can put it on "sale" for regular price.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Would I get banned if I made a bunch of eBay Listings that basically said "Wait to buy a RX 6x00XT/RTX 30x0 Ti until prices drop below $Y, the flood will start September 20th"

With a picture of a piece of paper with the above printed on it, bids starting at $0.01.

 

[mastertech01]

Would I get banned if I made a bunch of eBay Listings that basically said "Wait to buy a RX 6x00XT/RTX 30x0 Ti until prices drop below $Y, the flood will start September 20th"

With a picture of a piece of paper with the above printed on it, bids starting at $0.01.

The ETH mafia would hunt you down...

 

[moonbogg]

Ebay listings incoming: RTX 3080, lot of 1000 only, $5 million dollars stupid poopy butt