Question are video card prices headed down yet?

[DAPUNISHER]

The only bad thing about a fire sale is all the rich boys who will grab them all up and make a new scalpers market.

With the trajectory the GPU market is on, anyone that tries that is probably going to lose their shirt. How do they stir up a demand that isn't currently present? Who will pay the mark up? Mining and lockdowns combined to create a market condition that no longer exists.

New cards are coming. Retailers are overstocked. Mining is becoming unprofitable. Once the remaining suckers are cleared out. Greedy sellers will find the rest of their inventory gathering dust. /my hot take.

 

[jpiniero]

With the trajectory the GPU market is on, anyone that tries that is probably going to lose their shirt. How do they stir up a demand that isn't currently present?

Gambling that the Money Printer gets turned back on?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Greedy sellers will find the rest of their inventory gathering dust. /my hot take.

They better sell out their GPU stash ASAP and find something honest to do or Karma will force them to. My heartfelt advice to them

 

[maddie]

Gambling that the Money Printer gets turned back on?

They and you are going to be very distressed with that belief. I already said it ain't happening. There are bigger world events in play now.

 

[moonbogg]

Interesting to see the youtube mining channels try to keep their viewers interested. "I make 50 cents per day everyday off my $10,000 investment. Ask me how"

 

[maddie]

Interesting to see the youtube mining channels try to keep their viewers interested. "I make 50 cents per day everyday off my $10,000 investment. Ask me how"

With electricity rising so fast in some places, they will be lucky for this.

 

[jpiniero]

They and you are going to be very distressed with that belief. I already said it ain't happening. There are bigger world events in play now.

Bad economy = Money Printer turned back on.

 

[mastertech01]

Bad economy = Money Printer turned back on.

Money printer never turned off. You just arent getting a piece of that pie.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Bad economy = Money Printer turned back on.

Don't see it. Bad economy to both stifle wage growth and slow inflation both benefit the ruling class of this nation. American oligarchs won't want the money printer turned on right now.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

With electricity rising so fast in some places, they will be lucky for this.

Mining has already been unprofitable here for the last few years. I shudder to think about now. Would be easier and probably cheaper to just set fire to the money for heat.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Mining has already been unprofitable here for the last few years. I shudder to think about now. Would be easier and probably cheaper to just set fire to the money for heat.

Solar panels in space could beam continuous energy back to earth (freethink.com)

This is what the Scandinavian countries need. Y'all better get together and make this happen.

 

[jpiniero]

MSI GeForce RTX 3080 with 20GB memory reportedly on sale in China for less than 600 USD - VideoCardz.com

MSI RTX 3080 with … 20GB memory A quick follow-up to our story from yesterday, where the first pics of the unreleased GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER and RTX 3080 20GB were shared. MSI GeForce RTX 3080 20GB VENTUS 3X OC, Source: @hongxing2020 As GPU mining is almost over for classic Ethereum, mining...

videocardz.com

Kind of interesting - nVidia sold 3080 20 GB to miners. Maybe it was the pre-production models before nVidia decided on the 12 GB instead.

 

[igor_kavinski]

MSI GeForce RTX 3080 with 20GB memory reportedly on sale in China for less than 600 USD - VideoCardz.com

MSI RTX 3080 with … 20GB memory A quick follow-up to our story from yesterday, where the first pics of the unreleased GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER and RTX 3080 20GB were shared. MSI GeForce RTX 3080 20GB VENTUS 3X OC, Source: @hongxing2020 As GPU mining is almost over for classic Ethereum, mining...

videocardz.com

Kind of interesting - nVidia sold 3080 20 GB to miners. Maybe it was the pre-production models before nVidia decided on the 12 GB instead.

I hope Nvidia shareholders sue Jensen for this outrageous direct sale to miners.

 

[coercitiv]

Kind of interesting - nVidia sold 3080 20 GB to miners. Maybe it was the pre-production models before nVidia decided on the 12 GB instead.

Nevertheless, the irony is dumbfounding:

MSI was selling (unlocked) GPUs directly to miners while normal buyers and gamers still had to deal with LHR

 

[Aapje]

MSI GeForce RTX 3080 with 20GB memory reportedly on sale in China for less than 600 USD - VideoCardz.com

MSI RTX 3080 with … 20GB memory A quick follow-up to our story from yesterday, where the first pics of the unreleased GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER and RTX 3080 20GB were shared. MSI GeForce RTX 3080 20GB VENTUS 3X OC, Source: @hongxing2020 As GPU mining is almost over for classic Ethereum, mining...

videocardz.com

Kind of interesting - nVidia sold 3080 20 GB to miners. Maybe it was the pre-production models before nVidia decided on the 12 GB instead.

It was actually MSI, not Nvidia. I bet that MSI did this on their own, violating their partner agreement. I can't imagine that Nvidia allows the AIBs to change the memory configs.

My guess is that this was a test run for the 3080 Ti, but they decided at the last minute on less memory. Then MSI decided to sell this test-run secretly.

 

[jpiniero]

It was actually MSI, not Nvidia. I bet that MSI did this on their own, violating their partner agreement. I can't imagine that Nvidia allows the AIBs to change the memory configs.

My guess is that this was a test run for the 3080 Ti, but they decided at the last minute on less memory. Then MSI decided to sell this test-run secretly.

The 3080 Ti and even the 3080 12 GB have different core specs. The 3080 20 GB is probably just using 2 GB chips instead of 1 but is identical otherwise.

 

[Aapje]

The 3080 Ti and even the 3080 12 GB have different core specs. The 3080 20 GB is probably just using 2 GB chips instead of 1 but is identical otherwise.

How do you know? I'd like someone to get one of these cards, take off the heat sink and look what is written on the chip.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Solar panels in space could beam continuous energy back to earth (freethink.com)

This is what the Scandinavian countries need. Y'all better get together and make this happen.

Solar panels are going to have to be in orbit. We only get ~6 hours of sunlight midwinter here. Further north is even worse. If you can call that "light" that is.

On the plus side you get sun practically around the clock during summer, so that helps a lot with air conditioning. Which you're going to need, since things never have time to cool off properly.

Wonder what SpaceX would charge for launching a few? I can get some camping ones cheaply from Biltema. I just need a long enough wire and some duct tape...

 

[jpiniero]

How do you know? I'd like someone to get one of these cards, take off the heat sink and look what is written on the chip.

That's kind of what the rumors were saying when it was discussed on what nVidia was going to do.

I suppose nVidia could have added an SM or two like the 3080 12 GB but going any higher in core specs means you have to use GA102 instead of possibly using GA103. The 3080 12 GB of course needs the extra memory bus beyond what GA103 has.

 

[Aapje]

I suppose nVidia could have added an SM or two like the 3080 12 GB but going any higher in core specs means you have to use GA102 instead of possibly using GA103. The 3080 12 GB of course needs the extra memory bus beyond what GA103 has.

The entire desktop 3080 lineup uses GA102. GA103 is used in the 3060 Ti and for mobile 3080. It has a more restricted bus, so can only support 8 or 16 GB, not 20.

 

[GunsMadeAmericaFree]

I'll be honest, that's not where I would be shopping for GPUs these days. Maybe 5 years ago.

I think that you should look for some $100-120 RX 6400 LP single-slot 4GB GDDR6 cards, in the upcoming months.

I understand your perspective, but any card I'd be looking at would have to physically fit in my several computer cases (low profile), and would have to draw 50 watts or less. That's why I reference the RX 550 cards, and the fact that used ones were about 50% more just months ago.

 

[jpiniero]

The entire desktop 3080 lineup uses GA102. GA103 is used in the 3060 Ti and for mobile 3080. It has a more restricted bus, so can only support 8 or 16 GB, not 20.

IIRC 3080 10 GB has the same specs as the fully enabled GA103. 68 SMs, 320 bit bus.

 

[Aapje]

IIRC 3080 10 GB has the same specs as the fully enabled GA103. 68 SMs, 320 bit bus.

AFAIK, GA103 is only used in 256 bit products, so that seems unlikely. Laptop 3080 Ti is 58 SMs.

 

[CP5670]

Mining has already been unprofitable here for the last few years. I shudder to think about now. Would be easier and probably cheaper to just set fire to the money for heat.

Yeah mining didn't make much sense even last year, but that didn't stop people from doing it. It was fine for making back some money on a card bought primarily for gaming, but for pure mining you need huge scale.

 

[jpiniero]

Getting a 3080 below MSRP is still tough but Best Buy has a 3080 Ti for $740 (and maybe even lower with a BB Credit Card).