Question are video card prices headed down yet?

[Fanatical Meat]

It's Gigabyte's MIR but who knows who is actually eating that loss. I suppose the base price cut could be AMD's doing.

Rebates in various careers I’ve worked are usually 2/3rds 1/3rd as in vendor eats $34 of the $50 however that $34 tends to be applied to future orders as in I order $100 worth of merchandise the manufacturer covers the first $34.00.
Bottom line AMD has already sold the product to Newegg. Newegg takes the revenue hit however from the dumb lotteries and general pricing absurdity Newegg should be in a good enough position to discount these cards.

 

[|JosephB17331|]

Yep. There are tons of open box videocards at my local microcenter. They just aren't selling. What do you know, ETH profitability went down and suddenly there are no more shortages...

Oh now the miners swore up and down their mining operations were not causing the GPU shortages..
🤣

 

[moonbogg]

$729 but that includes a $50 MIR though. AMD can't be happy... that's basically closeout like prices.

What an outrageous ripoff that still is. The issue here is what $729 can buy you from the 7000 series launching not too far from now. Anyone who got screwed out of a GPU for the past 2 years is definitely waiting to spend that much money on a NEW card, not some overpriced piece of outdated garbage they used to want 24 months ago.

 

[jpiniero]

What an outrageous ripoff that still is. The issue here is what $729 can buy you from the 7000 series launching not too far from now.

Similar performance but less ram for about $20 cheaper?

 

[cmdrdredd]

- Its not like consumers to hold the line, and there are plenty of "got my $1000 video card at MSRP" brag posts abound. I wonder how many people just threw up their arms and walked away from the DIY space entirely over the last 2 years.

The whole market might have done a shadow shrink that isn't going to become fully visible till next gen launches.

I just about did walk away from PC gaming. I specifically purchased an Xbox series x console because I was not willing to play games to find a GPU upgrade. Eventually I did find one that wasn't a stupid markup and now I don't really touch the series x much as a result of that. If things never turned around I may have stopped playing new games on my PC entirely and never upgraded it again. You could be right and there are a decent number of gamers who simply gave up and moved on.

 

[Ranulf]

Jay says to buy now if you want in. Predicting another 2018 scenario where there are no 3000 cards left over when 4000 is finally released.

 

[maddie]

Just watched the part where MLID & a guest expects a likely $400 8 GB N33, a 6800XT/6900XT raster equivalent at 1080p.

The great pricing prediction game. Here we have the $600 one, and there we have the $400 one.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Jay says to buy now if you want in. Predicting another 2018 scenario where there are no 3000 cards left over when 4000 is finally released.

I can see it. A lot of people outright skipped the 3000 series because of zero availability and getting burned with 4 second sellouts of every card when stock went online. Then the stupid prices scalpers asked. It soured a lot of people on the whole concept of buying one. Now those who may have a 5950x paired with a 1070 or something because they didn't get their 3070/3080 upgrade might be foaming at the mouth for the next cards.

I got a 3080ti pretty recently myself and I think the only thing that the 4000 series could really offer me as a big benefit is ray tracing performance. If I turn ray tracing off I'm pretty comfortable with everything at 4k even though I do use RT effects when possible and that is to DLSS in many titles it's extremely smooth gameplay. I think a lot of people over estimate the memory size as being a big deal but we will see if anything comes out that changes that.

 

[jpiniero]

I got a 3080ti pretty recently myself and I think the only thing that the 4000 series could really offer me as a big benefit is ray tracing performance. If I turn ray tracing off I'm pretty comfortable with everything at 4k even though I do use RT effects when possible and that is to DLSS in many titles it's extremely smooth gameplay. I think a lot of people over estimate the memory size as being a big deal but we will see if anything comes out that changes that.

The performance increase is going to be rather significant at that price level. Who knows when that card will be released though.

I will say that it wouldn't surprise me if the only products released between now and the end of the year is the 4090 at $1800-$2k, the 4070 at $700+, and N33 at $600-$700+ depending on how fast it is compared to the 4070. No 4080, no N31 or N32.

 

[Ranulf]

I can see it. A lot of people outright skipped the 3000 series because of zero availability and getting burned with 4 second sellouts of every card when stock went online. Then the stupid prices scalpers asked. It soured a lot of people on the whole concept of buying one. Now those who may have a 5950x paired with a 1070 or something because they didn't get their 3070/3080 upgrade might be foaming at the mouth for the next cards.

I got a 3080ti pretty recently myself and I think the only thing that the 4000 series could really offer me as a big benefit is ray tracing performance. If I turn ray tracing off I'm pretty comfortable with everything at 4k even though I do use RT effects when possible and that is to DLSS in many titles it's extremely smooth gameplay. I think a lot of people over estimate the memory size as being a big deal but we will see if anything comes out that changes that.

Yeah, its possible to see a repeat of the 2018 crash but I think Jay hurts his argument when he mentioned how large the rtx 3000 launch was and how many cards they put out into the market. There is a lot of supply from miners and even just gamers who will see the new cards and immediately sell the old while they can and thus drop prices even further.

Its rather hilarious to look at the prime day sales. $380 for a zotac 3060 12GB and a Powercolor RX 6600 for $255. The 6600 is the far better deal at $120 cheaper and just behind in performance of the 3060. The prices are still too high.

 

[aigomorla]

what the hell mang...
Why is it only the 3070ti, 3090's and 3090ti are the ones on prime day sale.

Why aren't any of the 3060ti's on sale, and the 6650XT also have dismal sales.

Its like they really want to kill off mid tier gamers like how America wants to kill off the middle class.

 

[amenx]

Not a smart argument Jay is making when using halo cards to show big price reductions. Even in normal circumstance these should be heavily discounted when new cards are to be released. Any half enlightened fool would know newer lower tier cards will outperform them at half the cost very soon.

 

[aigomorla]

I posted this in hot deals...
But today prime day only...

Asus Strix 3070ti.. for 664.99
{deal dead.... RIP}

You probably will not see this card for that price again ever.
If you been holding out and you do not get halo cards, this is probably your best bet, as it will outperform a 3070 regular, and completely killl a 3060ti, which are all overpriced as hell at the moment.

 

[Aapje]

Jay says to buy now if you want in. Predicting another 2018 scenario where there are no 3000 cards left over when 4000 is finally released.

Pretty weak video with misinformation about Proof of Stake, that he claims is likely never happening, which is an incredibly dumb thing to say with the Eth guys gearing up for the final pre-production test. A mid-September merge seems extremely likely by now.

 

[Shmee]

I would like to see more 6700XT deals. That seems like a good upper midrange card, and has 12GB of memory.

 

[cmdrdredd]

The performance increase is going to be rather significant at that price level. Who knows when that card will be released though.

I will say that it wouldn't surprise me if the only products released between now and the end of the year is the 4090 at $1800-$2k, the 4070 at $700+, and N33 at $600-$700+ depending on how fast it is compared to the 4070. No 4080, no N31 or N32.

When I'm seeing nearly every title in I play doing 60fps at 4k even maxed settings most of the time I am not really worried yet. Like I said I feel ray tracing performance would be the biggest benefit for me. Games have to make use of it though and as I mentioned we have to see if games begin to eat up the 12GB of memory I have right now on my 3080ti. So far it's been more than fine and the games that release will determine what I decide.

I'm not someone who demands 120+fps and 60 is the sweet spot for me as I prefer eye candy over frame rates.

 

[moonbogg]

I posted this in hot deals...
But today prime day only...

Asus Strix 3070ti.. for 664.99
{deal dead.... RIP}

You probably will not see this card for that price again ever.
If you been holding out and you do not get halo cards, this is probably your best bet, as it will outperform a 3070 regular, and completely killl a 3060ti, which are all overpriced as hell at the moment.

I don't like the 3070Ti at all. It's just terrible and smacks of planned obsolescence. $664 for 8GB of ram is an absolutely vomit inducing bad deal. That price is probably right around where a 4070 will land, and it will have at least 10GB of ram and likely perform around as good as the best cards out today.

 

[jpiniero]

Any half enlightened fool would know newer lower tier cards will outperform them at half the cost very soon.

There isn't going to be new mid/low tier cards any time soon. That's why the semi-official decent price cuts are coming at the high to ultra high.

I'm sure AMD wants to get rid of the non-RDNA 2 Refresh cards ASAP though. That 6600 for $259 is a good deal.

 

[Dribble]

Jay says to buy now if you want in. Predicting another 2018 scenario where there are no 3000 cards left over when 4000 is finally released.

If you really need a card then now is a great time to buy, Nvidia cards mostly available at MSRP, but if you have waited this long then you can probably wait a bit longer for the 4000 series when there will be a better performance and new features. It's not like games have suddenly started needing faster gpu's so if you have survived this long on your old gpu you can survive a bit longer. That certainly applies to me.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I'm not buying unless prices drop so low that I know it's hurting someone really bad to sell at that price. I want the responsible people to suffer just like they made us suffer.

 

[amenx]

There isn't going to be new mid/low tier cards any time soon. That's why the semi-official decent price cuts are coming at the high to ultra high.

I'm sure AMD wants to get rid of the non-RDNA 2 Refresh cards ASAP though. That 6600 for $259 is a good deal.

By "lower tier" I mean anything lower than halo cards. A 4080 is a lower tier than a 3090 and *may* be available before end of year.

 

[mikeymikec]

What are graphics cards like these days in terms of noise levels? A reason why I went for a Sapphire brand R9 380X was that the reviews said it was extremely quiet, and at idle my system is silent (except for the whine of the data HDD).

Amazon UK has this graphics card (Gigabyte GF 2060 6GB):

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 D6 6GB V2 Graphics Card : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

For £270 UKP which isn't a bad price (at least in terms of 'since the pandemic'), but the last Gigabyte graphics card I had was noisy on idle and like a vacuum cleaner during gaming.

There only seem to be like 3-4 brands of graphics card at the moment (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI), I can only find one Sapphire brand (6650 XT IIRC), is that a pandemic thing or the manufacturers competing until 'there can be only one'?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Gigabyte Vision series is said to be really quiet.

 

[amenx]

What are graphics cards like these days in terms of noise levels? A reason why I went for a Sapphire brand R9 380X was that the reviews said it was extremely quiet, and at idle my system is silent (except for the whine of the data HDD).

Amazon UK has this graphics card (Gigabyte GF 2060 6GB):

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 D6 6GB V2 Graphics Card : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

Buy

www.amazon.co.uk

For £270 UKP which isn't a bad price (at least in terms of 'since the pandemic'), but the last Gigabyte graphics card I had was noisy on idle and like a vacuum cleaner during gaming.

Not sure about AMD but all Nvidia cards released in last 5 years are fans off at idle. For load noise best to look for reviews of the particular card you're interested in.

 

[mikeymikec]

Not sure about AMD but all Nvidia cards released in last 5 years are fans off at idle. For load noise best to look for reviews of the particular card you're interested in.

I can have another look around for reviews but the first two weren't helpful, one didn't mention noise levels at all, and the second IIRC went for the highly scientific descriptor "quiet".