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Meghan54

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You really are hung up on rape, eh? Interesting...

Considering that one of his "heroes", Rush Limbaugh, basically called consent a liberal conspiracy and should be dismissed, not surprising Painful takes his position.
 

bshole

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Moon said that science has proven that conspiracy theory thinking comes from an enlarged amygdala which occurs only in conservatives. I don't know if I completely understand or believe what Moon said but it is an interesting hypothesis.

The problem for me is that the world is not "liberal" and "conservative". It is an enormous sliding scale with billions of variations in political views.
 

master_shake_

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I enjoy how he calls rape culture a liberal conspiracy after Cosby, Ailes, and Trump.

How many (alleged) women did they harass combined?

Hell the EEOC sees several thousand cases of alleged sexual harassment a year and those are just the ones reported. (Interestingly about 15-20% are reported by men).

No painmans list looks like real things he'd rather not think about as he gives it up to the Donald.

probably means the 1 in 5 college campus myth that has been busted a number of times.
 

Commodus

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Maybe it's a matter of having an attitude where what is theirs (or what was once theirs) is being taken away against their will by "others" that don't look, behave and talk like them. And when that "threat" is exploited for certain political advantage via overly-hyped hate and fear propaganda, well, just look at what happened when the GOP did it to their constituents. A lot of folks were presented with every mental hook conceivable whether they asked for it or not by the GOP, and it's something that Trump took off with in grand fashion.

*snip for focus, I'm onboard with the rest*

That's certainly part of it. One of the right's biggest issues is a false persecution complex. Many are so used to a life where the "default" is male, straight, white and Christian that they freak out when they're no longer the center of the universe. They don't know what real equality looks like, so having to make any concessions (say, treating women, minorities, LGBT people and Muslims with respect) looks to them like an attack on their culture. See: the non-existent "war on Christmas."

On the left... well, not that everyone on the left is a bastion of empathy and acceptance, but you're less likely to hold to conspiracies when you don't treat a huge chunk of the human population as your enemy.
 

interchange

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Generally I don't expect this to be the case.

The polarized versions of the liberal and conservative camps are in my mind 2 different solutions to the same conflict:
separation/dependence

The conservative side is more projective -- seeing others as threats and responsible for their own failures
The liberal side is more introjective -- taking on an exaggerated sense of controlling the external environment

Naturally, conspiracy theorists are going to align with the former. The latter is probably more polarized with extreme socialist/communist viewpoints.

Personally, I wish society better supported alternative compromises to the need for autonomy and the reality of dependence.
 

BurnItDwn

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The liberal "conspiracy theory" types are moron antivaxxers & fucktarded quack healer lovers and psychic tarot card fools.
 

Moonbeam

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Moon said that science has proven that conspiracy theory thinking comes from an enlarged amygdala which occurs only in conservatives. I don't know if I completely understand or believe what Moon said but it is an interesting hypothesis.

The problem for me is that the world is not "liberal" and "conservative". It is an enormous sliding scale with billions of variations in political views.
It is a statistical fact that people who self report as conservative have larger right amygdalae than people who self report as liberal in a sample of people tested and that such self reporting people when studied for psychological traits divide in reactions in various tests designed around phenomena predicted to be affected by the right amygdala, higher reactivity to startling sounds, focus on disgusting images over pleasant ones, avoidance of facts that contradict personal beliefs and so on. I think if you google 16 peer review studies on liberal conservative brain differences you may find a summary of a collection of them done some years ago. Maybe I can do that for you: Seems like it's up to 20 with an update:

http://2016election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005927
 

Moonbeam

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Generally I don't expect this to be the case.

The polarized versions of the liberal and conservative camps are in my mind 2 different solutions to the same conflict:
separation/dependence

The conservative side is more projective -- seeing others as threats and responsible for their own failures
The liberal side is more introjective -- taking on an exaggerated sense of controlling the external environment

Naturally, conspiracy theorists are going to align with the former. The latter is probably more polarized with extreme socialist/communist viewpoints.

Personally, I wish society better supported alternative compromises to the need for autonomy and the reality of dependence.

This strikes me as an interesting post, one that probably deserves its own thread as I suspect it has implications that far surpass the topic of conspiracy web sites, one of which, at least in my opinion, I wish didn't have to go off topic to explore. The OP already expressed a desire to stay on topic.
 

interchange

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It is a statistical fact that people who self report as conservative have larger right amygdalae than people who self report as liberal in a sample of people tested and that such self reporting people when studied for psychological traits divide in reactions in various tests designed around phenomena predicted to be affected by the right amygdala, higher reactivity to startling sounds, focus on disgusting images over pleasant ones, avoidance of facts that contradict personal beliefs and so on. I think if you google 16 peer review studies on liberal conservative brain differences you may find a summary of a collection of them done some years ago. Maybe I can do that for you: Seems like it's up to 20 with an update:

http://2016election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005927

This seems as though poor quality biological evidence.

Nonetheless, I will readily assent to their being biological proclivity and biological consequence in relation to conservative and liberal political identifications.

What I would like to hear from you is a statement of what implications are carried from an awareness of such a difference.
 

agent00f

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Generally I don't expect this to be the case.

The polarized versions of the liberal and conservative camps are in my mind 2 different solutions to the same conflict:
separation/dependence

The conservative side is more projective -- seeing others as threats and responsible for their own failures
The liberal side is more introjective -- taking on an exaggerated sense of controlling the external environment

Naturally, conspiracy theorists are going to align with the former. The latter is probably more polarized with extreme socialist/communist viewpoints.

Personally, I wish society better supported alternative compromises to the need for autonomy and the reality of dependence.

What about this extreme viewpoint demanding equality between the plebs' and bourgeois political power?
 

michal1980

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Those aren't liberal conspiracy sites (though they usually do suck eggs) but thanks for playing... please insert coin and try again!

Yes because your biased, you agree with those conspiracys so you dont see them as such.

Just like people that think they've been abducted dont think they are crazy.
 

Moonbeam

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This seems as though poor quality biological evidence.

Nonetheless, I will readily assent to their being biological proclivity and biological consequence in relation to conservative and liberal political identifications.

What I would like to hear from you is a statement of what implications are carried from an awareness of such a difference.

This is not my thread and the OP already posted this. Sorry:

ok let's stay on topic please! you can debate that stuff elsewhere if you don't mind

Edit: I can say that the evidence suggested by those studies would support, I think, your opinion that liberal conspiracy sites are less likely than conservative ones.
 

michal1980

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Moon said that science has proven that conspiracy theory thinking comes from an enlarged amygdala which occurs only in conservatives. I don't know if I completely understand or believe what Moon said but it is an interesting hypothesis.

The problem for me is that the world is not "liberal" and "conservative". It is an enormous sliding scale with billions of variations in political views.
Moon has made up science.
 

nickqt

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There are plenty of right wing websites full of Hillary conspiracy theories, always "breaking" news about how the lately scandal is going to sink her campaign. They are all completely delusional, and I'm wondering if there are similar sites with a liberal skew? I know there are some very biased liberal outlets but any that are so egregiously false?
Oh, there are plenty of liberal conspiracy websites.

Unlike US Conservatives who elevate them to talk radio shock jocks and Republican party cable "news" spokesmen (and now, Presidental fucking advisors - congrats Republicans!), we just laugh at them in passing before coming back to making fun of US conservatives.

Libruuls have plenty of crazies. And they're all ignored and kept safely away from power.

For America.

You're welcome.
 

MongGrel

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Pretty much all news sites are allegedly "Libural" these days aren't they ?

Even FOX News is Liberal these days according to Trump I imagine.

Ramp up that paranoia.

It's a global conspiracy, some news sites in North Korea might be conspiring against Trump in his mind at this point.

They are conspiring Bigly.
 

Painman

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I enjoy how he calls rape culture a liberal conspiracy after Cosby, Ailes, and Trump.

How many (alleged) women did they harass combined?

Hell the EEOC sees several thousand cases of alleged sexual harassment a year and those are just the ones reported. (Interestingly about 15-20% are reported by men).

No painmans list looks like real things he'd rather not think about as he gives it up to the Donald.

Why don't you quote me directly?

Say my name...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQzULRD6LJY

...And quote my shit.