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Well, Lowes seems to be more in bed with the Black And Decker group including Dewalt, Porter-Cable and Delta, plus Hitachi. So there are still plenty of nice tools. Milwaukee is great, but there are equivolents in pretty much every category.
 
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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: Baloo
It's not like their ain't a bunch of other brands they can sell. This will hurt Milwaukee, not lowes.

Milwakee will just sell a rebranded name.

Milwaukee already manufactures Ryobi and Rigid, not to mention part of the Craftsman line. Are you suggesting they will invent yet another line to undercut the sales of their already existing lines?

Emerson used to make Craftsman and Ridgid. Then Home Depot moved Ridgid to their Ryobi plant. If there's an affiliation with Ryobi and Milwaukee, then it's going to be the opposite of what you're assuming. Quality --
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Apparently Lowe's has lost their right to market the Milwaukee brand of tools and accessories. Beginning immediately Milwaukee has stopped all sales of their tool lines to Lowe's. They will honor their warranties, but as soon as Lowe's runs out of their estimated six month inventory of Milwaukee tools they will no longer be allowed to market them.

Milwaukee dumps Lowe's.

I wonder what effect this will have on Lowe's sales. It is not all that it seems, I believe. Home Depot and Miilwaukee are snuggled up in bed and seem to be kicking Lowe's to the curb. What options to you see that Lowe's will have to replace this quality line of tools?

"Lost their right"? :confused:

You may have it backwards.
More likely it was Lowe's that dumped the Milwaukee line.

Wrong, Milwaukee dumped Lowe's.

Well who are they going to, cause Home Depot is all about private labels now?
 

Imaginer

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True, I can get stuff for a bit less on Amazon with free shipping (if I dont mind the wait) compared to Lowes or Home Depot. Never have bought a power tool from Home Depot but I do like Lowes warrantee.

Someone mentioned the lacking of quality amongst all brands. A Bosch orbital sander I bought couldn't grip the sandpaper overtime as well as it should and then the front clamp broke due to the wearing and eventual breakage of (surprise surprise) a plastic part that is supposed to be metal in my opinion.

I haven't been disapointed with Dewalt, using a friend's cordless circular saw and myself owning a miter saw. A cheap Delta table saw of which will be replaced by a solid cast iron table saw has gotten be through for a bit. I also have a Bosch jigsaw that seemed to hold up so far since two years I got it. I even have one of those cheap Task force scroll saws for small things and used the heck out of it with no problems so far.

Oh and yeah, after borrowing a friend's Black and Decker puny cordless circular saw, I can also vouch for the "soccor mom" tool mentality that worthless thing is. Doesn't have power at all and only like a minute battery life. And maybe it isn't just me.... Lowes is indeed phasing out the better tools and pushing the cheapo brands.

But never have owned or used Milwalkee. I don't think I am too worried about it.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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I don't buy power tools from Lowe's or Home Depot. I usually go to the Black and Decker outlet store.
 

HappyPuppy

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Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I don't buy power tools from Lowe's or Home Depot. I usually go to the Black and Decker outlet store.

Would you mind listing your arsenal of power tools for all of us to laugh at?
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I don't buy power tools from Lowe's or Home Depot. I usually go to the Black and Decker outlet store.

Would you mind listing your arsenal of power tools for all of us to laugh at?

Damn that's cold....


LOL
 

KK

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I don't see how this will hurt Lowes as much as it will Milwaukee. The average person shopping at Lowes will still go to lowes to buy what they need, if milwaukee isn't one of the choices, they'll just get another brand thats out on display. Not like they will miss milwaukee or even know at one time Lowes sold them.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I don't buy power tools from Lowe's or Home Depot. I usually go to the Black and Decker outlet store.

Would you mind listing your arsenal of power tools for all of us to laugh at?

Damn that's cold....


LOL

You laugh, but they're damn good deals. I got a 19V & 17V power drills, 19V reciprocating saw, 19V circular saw, and a edger.
 

sierrita

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Apparently Lowe's has lost their right to market the Milwaukee brand of tools and accessories. Beginning immediately Milwaukee has stopped all sales of their tool lines to Lowe's. They will honor their warranties, but as soon as Lowe's runs out of their estimated six month inventory of Milwaukee tools they will no longer be allowed to market them.

Milwaukee dumps Lowe's.

I wonder what effect this will have on Lowe's sales. It is not all that it seems, I believe. Home Depot and Miilwaukee are snuggled up in bed and seem to be kicking Lowe's to the curb. What options to you see that Lowe's will have to replace this quality line of tools?

"Lost their right"? :confused:

You may have it backwards.
More likely it was Lowe's that dumped the Milwaukee line.

Wrong, Milwaukee dumped Lowe's.





Where in the article you linked, does it say that?


I'm sure it's the other way around.

By the way, what's the reason for your snobbish hard-on for Milwaukee tools? :roll:

For the price, they really aren't that great any more; or maybe you hadn't noticed?
 

paulney

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Unfortunately there are only 2 Lowe's stores in Bay Area, which is a shame. Unless you are a contractor, HD sucks big time. And could they hire more than 5 people per the whole store?
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Apparently Lowe's has lost their right to market the Milwaukee brand of tools and accessories. Beginning immediately Milwaukee has stopped all sales of their tool lines to Lowe's. They will honor their warranties, but as soon as Lowe's runs out of their estimated six month inventory of Milwaukee tools they will no longer be allowed to market them.

Milwaukee dumps Lowe's.

I wonder what effect this will have on Lowe's sales. It is not all that it seems, I believe. Home Depot and Miilwaukee are snuggled up in bed and seem to be kicking Lowe's to the curb. What options to you see that Lowe's will have to replace this quality line of tools?

"Lost their right"? :confused:

You may have it backwards.
More likely it was Lowe's that dumped the Milwaukee line.

That makes no sense at all. Especially after reading the article. Did you just decide to post without reading?

Huh?

Here's the article:

Milwaukee Tools No Longer Available at Lowes Soon
Written by Ben Jackson
Wednesday, 13 February 2008


For a few days now, we've been hearing rumors that soon Home Depot will soon be the sole big-box tool retailer carrying Milwaukee brand power tools, which have previously been available from both Lowes and Home Depot stores. These rumors have been confirmed and it looks like Lowes will no longer be a retailer of Milwaukee products. Of course, this could mean that there could be some good deals to be had on Milwaukee Tools at Lowes stores.

In a way, it does make a lot of sense. After all, the company who owns Milwaukee Tools, Techtronic Inc (TTI), is also the manufacturer of Home Depot's popular store brand power tools, Ryobi and Ridgid. They also make a lot of Craftsman-brand power tools, Dirt Devil/Hoover vacuum cleaners and a few other brands of consumer home goods.


........So where does it say anything about Lowe's "losing the right" to sell Milwaukee?

OP obviously made some unsubstantiated assumptions regarding the content of the article; particularly titling his link "Milwaukee dumps Lowe's" when the article itself makes no such claim.

 
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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I don't buy power tools from Lowe's or Home Depot. I usually go to the Black and Decker outlet store.

Would you mind listing your arsenal of power tools for all of us to laugh at?

I don't know. I tend to think the guy who assumes you can't do great work with a cheapo black and decker tool is probably more a tool collector than anything.
 

Gothgar

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I don't buy power tools from Lowe's or Home Depot. I usually go to the Black and Decker outlet store.

Would you mind listing your arsenal of power tools for all of us to laugh at?

I don't know. I tend to think the guy who assumes you can't do great work with a cheapo black and decker tool is probably more a tool collector than anything.

no one said anything about the quality of work from said tools, but if you ever really used em, they wouldn't last for shit.

I've seen many of my helpers Ryobi's and B&D's die in the middle of a job after only really using them for a few months.

Oh, and please god don't even think about accidentally dropping one of those fragile toys, I mean tools...
 

alkemyst

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I do a lot of stuff with tools, still it makes no sense for me to go out and drop $500 on a tool when a $100 one will do just fine. Most of the contractor stuff is WAY overkill for a homeowner. You have a warranty that usually can be used. The contractor can't usually afford to take time off to go return a tool.

Also in any tool line up there are different tiers. Comparing a B&D entry level tool to a Makita is going to be an obvious skew.

I like B&D's sanders. Their cordless lawn tools have been great. Outside of that I have almost exclusively Craftsman at home. I do a lot of mechanical work and my wrenches and sockets are where my money is spent on tools that fit right and don't break. Esp when you are dealing with suspension / mounting components in the 36mm and 1 1/4"+ range.

It's funny to see some of my friend's garages full of shiny Snap-On/MAC and Makita tools that look unused and when things break they have a pro come out to fix it.
 

Demon-Xanth

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A fun story regarding Black and Decker quality:

A bunch of my family worked at a McCulloch chainsaw plant, the owner took great pride in making high quality tools, but wanted to retire, so he sold the company to Black and Decker. One of the first things they did was replace an all metal pump that was durable and reliable to one with a plastic washer that would wear out in time. Things just went down hill so fast that my family still uses "pre-B&D" chainsaws, but won't get a post B&D chainsaw. You never see them anymore because nobody wants one. B&D effectively killed the company.
 

MaxDepth

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I have to say that my B&D equipment are things of beauty. I have one repaired through the local refurb office and that is about it. I don't know when quality started slipping.

I bought my B&D tools in 1994.


Also, we have a bit of confusion here in Durham when you say Lowe's because we have the store and the theaters with the same name.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
I have to say that my B&D equipment are things of beauty. I have one repaired through the local refurb office and that is about it. I don't know when quality started slipping.

I bought my B&D tools in 1994.


Also, we have a bit of confusion here in Durham when you say Lowe's because we have the store and the theaters with the same name.

Loews is the theater; we don't even have any here and I know that :p
 

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We have an old Milwaukee drill at work. It must be at least 20 years old. It still works, but weighs about 15 lbs. It seems to be heavier than our hammerdrill.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
I don't buy power tools from Lowe's or Home Depot. I usually go to the Black and Decker outlet store.

Would you mind listing your arsenal of power tools for all of us to laugh at?

I don't know. I tend to think the guy who assumes you can't do great work with a cheapo black and decker tool is probably more a tool collector than anything.

no one said anything about the quality of work from said tools, but if you ever really used em, they wouldn't last for shit.

I've seen many of my helpers Ryobi's and B&D's die in the middle of a job after only really using them for a few months.

Oh, and please god don't even think about accidentally dropping one of those fragile toys, I mean tools...

In 1980 I bought a B&D circular saw and a router. I still use them both though it's almost time to replace the saw. The bearing is getting noisy.
I am not too brand loyal. I buy what i think is the best tool for the job.
I own DeWalt, Makita, Porter Cable, Skil, Hitachi, Milwaukee and the red brand Sears sells, I don't recall the name, it was a gift.
 

bunker

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth

Also, we have a bit of confusion here in Durham when you say Lowe's because we have the store and the theaters with the same name.

No you don't silly.

Loews <> Lowe's
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Originally posted by: bctbct
Milwaukee quality is slipping. The only tool that would be sold at Lowes I could see being better in the Milwaukee brand is the saws-all and possibly corded drills.

All brand quality is slipping... Tool quality is going to shit. Companies need to be ashamed of their own brands... It's all plastic disposable shit.

The same people that make Milwaukee make Ryobi and Ridgid.. That tells me that there should only be ONE brand between the three of them. Fuck.. do you guys know that Black and Decker (soccer-mom tools) owns Dewault?!

If you're going to Home Depot or Lowe's to buy tools, you're getting shit no matter what price you pay.. So.. buy the cheapest and then buy a few spares.

Amen. However I disagree with the bolded it; shop around and search the classifieds for high quality used tools and you won't be disappointed.

I like mikta. All of the big power tools in my dad's workshop are used high end stuff: We have an old Parks band saw; the sucker is huge. We also have an old Delta three phase table saw. The radial arm saw is also three phase but I forget the brand. The quality of newer tools disturbs me because I'll have to buy this crap when I get my own place. (or look in the classifieds)

table saw: http://img225.imageshack.us/my...age=1114071603ayw3.jpg
band saw of doom: http://img225.imageshack.us/my...mage=1114071603uz1.jpg
radial arm saw: http://img225.imageshack.us/my...mage=1114071604ht1.jpg