are self-esteem and confidence the same thing?

spidey07

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Self esteem is viewing yourself in a positive light. Confidence is knowing that you can do something/anything and others will listen to you or follow you.

So it's very easy to have a positive self view but still not necessarily confidence. Confidence is normally how you carry yourself and act rather than self view.
 

knawlejj

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Originally posted by: Dear Summer
how can someone have high self esteem but low confidence?

I can have the idea that i value myself, and how important I am.

But, I can have low confidence in my ability to do something, or certainty.
 

Modelworks

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You are not a good runner. You have high self esteem and so you think that you will give it your best effort to run a marathon. You can still lack confidence though, thinking I can give it my best, but I probably will not win because I know I am not the best runner.
 

Dear Summer

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Self esteem is viewing yourself in a positive light. Confidence is knowing that you can do something/anything and others will listen to you or follow you.

which is more important for becoming successful?
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: Dear Summer
Originally posted by: spidey07
Self esteem is viewing yourself in a positive light. Confidence is knowing that you can do something/anything and others will listen to you or follow you.

which is more important for becoming successful?

Confidence.
 

AreaCode707

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"Is" and "Are" are not the same thing either. Your title hurts my brain.

Self-esteem is thinking that you're worthwhile no matter how worthwhile or worthless you might actually be. Confidence comes from knowing that you can do what you are attempting to do. The two can, but are not necessarily, related.

For instance, you may have good self-esteem about your grammar, but you should have very little confidence. :p
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: Dear Summer
Originally posted by: spidey07
Self esteem is viewing yourself in a positive light. Confidence is knowing that you can do something/anything and others will listen to you or follow you.

which is more important for becoming successful?

Confidence.

Definately. I've felt like crap about my personal health the past few years. But I still knew I could do my job with skill. Did well at work. went home and felt like crap.
 

Bibble

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You had the confidence to post this thread, but your self-esteem will be lowered when you are ridiculed for your failure to use proper grammar.
 

Dear Summer

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Originally posted by: Bibble
You had the confidence to post this thread, but your self-esteem will be lowered when you are ridiculed for your failure to use proper grammar.

No.

My self esteem will forever remain high, but my confidence for proper grammar usage gets lower and lower :(
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: knawlejj
Originally posted by: Dear Summer
how can someone have high self esteem but low confidence?

I can have the idea that i value myself, and how important I am.

But, I can have low confidence in my ability to do something, or certainty.

How can you be important or of value if you can't do anything? You'd have to be delusional to have high self-esteem regarding your value and low confidence regarding your abilities at the same time.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Dear Summer
Originally posted by: spidey07
Self esteem is viewing yourself in a positive light. Confidence is knowing that you can do something/anything and others will listen to you or follow you.

which is more important for becoming successful?

lots of cash and inside information trumps both confidence and self esteem.

but confidence helps a ton, raises your chances
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Full Monty
I think a more appropriate synonym for confidence is self-efficacy.

Not really. Confidence is a feeling, self-efficacy is an attribute. You can be confident about your self-efficacy but be wrong, but if you possess self-efficacy you have it indedpendent of anyone's opinion of you, including yours.

 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Dear Summer
which is more important for becoming successful?
Confidence by far. You can be confident that you will do the job properly, but still have low self-esteem. Or, you can have a very high self-esteem but still not be confident that you can flap your arms and fly to the moon. They are NOT the same thing.

America has just raised millions of kids with self-esteem building programs. For the most part, we have kids with high self-esteem, but few problem solving skills and few real-world skills.

Heck, do a google search for "self-esteem success" and you'll get a bunch of inspriational websites all spouting the same nonsense. When you look at real studies like this, you see that self-esteem and success are only barely linked. "Objective evidence sometimes paints a much different picture, and many of the ostensible (selfreported) advantages claimed by people with high self-esteem are clearly disconfirmed". When there is a link, it is ususally the opposite: success makes high self-esteem and NOT the other way around like the inspriational websites claim.

Confidence means you tackle difficult problems, get the job done, and you look like a success to other people (even if you failed while trying). Confidence, in my experience, leads to promotions. But I haven't looked up studies on that issue.