Are Muslims overly sensitive about the Prophet Mohammad?

[JEDIYoda]

http://news.yahoo.com/anti-american-fury-sweeps-middle-east-over-film-003133374.html

Headline reads -- Anti-American fury sweeps Middle East over film

KHARTOUM/TUNIS (Reuters) - Fury about a film that insults the Prophet Mohammad tore across the Middle East after weekly prayers on Friday with protesters attacking U.S. embassies and burning American flags as the Pentagon rushed to bolster security at its missions.

At least seven people were killed as local police struggled to repel assaults after weekly Muslim prayers in Tunisia and Sudan, while there was new violence in Egypt and Yemen and across the Muslim world, driven by emotions ranging from piety to anger at Western power to frustrations with local leaders and poverty.

A Taliban attack on a base in Afghanistan that killed two Americans may also have been timed to coincide with protests.

But three days after the amateurish film of obscure origin triggered an attack on the U.S. consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi that killed the ambassador and three other Americans on September 11, President Barack Obama led a ceremony to honor the returning dead and vowed to "stand fast" against the violence.

"The United States will never retreat from the world," said Obama, who in seeking re-election must defend his record on protecting U.S. interests, both at embassies and more widely in a region where last year's Arab Spring revolts overthrew pro-Western autocrats

There is more -- http://news.yahoo.com/anti-american-fury-sweeps-middle-east-over-film-003133374.html

Seems to me they have serious issues concerning any criticism of their prophet.....

Also seems to me that those rioting are NOT just a small minority.......

 

[Rainsford]

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Seems to me they have serious issues concerning any criticism of their prophet.....

Also seems to me that those rioting are NOT just a small minority.......

I don't know how it "seems to you" that the rioters are representative of all (or most) of Islam, but comparing the number of rioters to the number of Muslims seems to suggest it really is just a vocal and violent minority. And clearly the actual rioters are overly touchy, yeah.

 

[sandorski]

Some definitely are.

 

[Geosurface]

I don't know how it "seems to you" that the rioters are representative of all (or most) of Islam, but comparing the number of rioters to the number of Muslims seems to suggest it really is just a vocal and violent minority. And clearly the actual rioters are overly touchy, yeah.

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans. Pew Research (2010): 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers; 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam. 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons featuring Mohammed; 68% percent support the arrest and prosecution of people who "insult Islam."

 

[Double Trouble]

Overly sensitive is a huge understatement. Sorry Rainsford, but it's been shown over and over and over again that it's not just some small minority. Poll after poll confirms it, as if all the insane riots and violence resulting from a book, a cartoon or a movie etc are not evidence enough.

As I've said before, islam and a truly free society are fundamentally incompatible, and this whole episode just reinforces that reality.

 

[xj0hnx]

I don't know how it "seems to you" that the rioters are representative of all (or most) of Islam, but comparing the number of rioters to the number of Muslims seems to suggest it really is just a vocal and violent minority. And clearly the actual rioters are overly touchy, yeah.

The number of rioters may be a minority, but the number that get mad when someone insults their thin skinned, diaper wearing pedophile "profit" is I would dare say a majority. Just because they don't riot, and kill doesn't mean they don't get upset, and with that many that are sympathetic it is to be expected that they will police their own less and less.

 

[OCGuy]

You think?

 

[Matt1970]

That isn't a hard conclusion to come to.

 

[glenn1]

It wasn't even very good at insulting Mohammed. The film could have at least shown him having sex with farm animals, showed him getting his ass kicked by Ganesh, or maybe dating fat chicks or something.

 

[davmat787]

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans. Pew Research (2010): 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers; 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam. 78% of British Muslims support punishing people who publish cartoons featuring Mohammed; 68% percent support the arrest and prosecution of people who "insult Islam."

Source?

One thing I don't understand is how some on the left reconcile their views on Christians vs. Muslims. When conservatives and/or Christians complain about the lefts intolerance of them, we often see them reply with "being tolerant does not include being tolerant of bigotry" or something along those lines. As if conservatives or Christians all fit into this monolithic group of bigotry and intolerance, but that is another subject.

The past several days we have seen several threads and many comments defending Islam, that these are isolated instances, can't view all Muslims the same, .etc.

So how can one reconcile their hatred and intolerance of Christians, while being so tolerant of Muslims in the face of stonings, burning gays, the data GeoSurface provided above, .etc, even going to the lengths of creating threads with pictures of a small group protesting the protesters in Egypt? The only answer I can think of is they do this to get one over on conservatives and have given in to the extremist Muslims, so afraid to offend them that they will go so far as to denigrate Christians for them, but I am sure a better answer than that exists.

Obviously not all Muslims are the same, nor are all Christians, yet one group enjoys the extreme tolerance and a litany of excuses, while the other is always tossed into a single group to be viewed as negatively as possible. WTF gives?

For the record I am not religious at all, just very curious as to why this paradox exists.

 

[monovillage]

We are not at war, we are just under attack. Maybe we should be at war with Muslim terrorism.

 

[Incorruptible]

Yes, you cant say anything bad or your a racist and will be killed/beheaded

 

[umbrella39]

Parody troll is boring... switch proxy servers then FOAD.

 

[davmat787]

Parody troll is boring... switch proxy servers then FOAD.

You keep talking about how bad P&N is, lets see what your recent contributions are shall we?

Cool so this parody bullshit account is just going to be allowed to run this place into the dirt. Hell yeah P&N! Fuck this place.

STFU and go sit back down at the kids table. Active troll is active...

Romney will only make the middle east worse and cause thousands more of our troops deaths with his foreign policy, he doesn't want to fix it, war is good for the GOP and American casualties only make him smile when walking away from podiums...

Shhh, there is a drunken trailer park circle jerk in progress here, pretty soon the squeals will be heard and comments about purdy mouths will fill the forums. The only thing that remains is who will pitch and who will catch. The drunkard above has already put in a request to be permacatcher so watch out ladies...

These 3 Republican Teahadists should all be tossed in jail.

My God you are a dumb wise and beautiful woman. Stop posting... clip your testes and never pass the dumb gene your parents gave you down to another generation. Any one want to bet that there ARE millions of unemployed Republicans with bridge cards/food stamps. Again... stop posting.

Yea, I don't think you have any room to talk about the quality of content here at P&N. I don't think I have ever read a post of yours that adds to the discussion, you always ride on the coattails of someone else and add your usual bullshit.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I don't know how it "seems to you" that the rioters are representative of all (or most) of Islam, but comparing the number of rioters to the number of Muslims seems to suggest it really is just a vocal and violent minority. And clearly the actual rioters are overly touchy, yeah.

I believe it is very nieve of you to honestly think that a majority of Muslim like and support what ther United States stands for....
I also believe that those who are not partipating in the demonstrations and rioting at the very least condone what is being said and done!

I see nobody out there in support of the United States...

Please show me where those people are marching and en masse showing support......

Of course we can do a play on words and pretend that the majority of Muslims are in support of the US.......


remember there is always an exception to the rule.....

There were those people who honestly knew what was happening and still supported Adolf Hitler......lolol

 

[JEDIYoda]

awwww.........

 

[JEDIYoda]

Parody troll is boring... switch proxy servers then FOAD.

awwww poor umbrella...awwww

 

[umbrella39]

Oh boy you got me davey... Your selective scrutiny is hilarious! GYHOOYA

There is another gem for you.

 

[davmat787]

Oh boy you got me davey... Your selective scrutiny is hilarious! GYHOOYA

There is another gem for you.

It was by no means selective, I merely clicked on the "find more posts by umbrella39" link and there they are. Do you want more? I have looked at that link several times before when you made a similar comment, yet refrained from making the post. Your posts are exactly that which you protest of others, perhaps even worse.

Believe me, there is plenty more garbage where that came from.

And in what way do I have my head up my ass? Those are your posts, not mine. Selective? ... lol.

 

[umbrella39]

And in what way do I have my head up my ass? Those are your posts, not mine.

Because you are an inane islamophobic FUD peddler who took the time to check my posts to defend an obvious a liberal/democrat parody troll you are under the impression thinks like you! While you are riding atop your high horse, continue along with your selective scrutiny that agrees with anyone fueled by cowardice and fear! It's, as stated, hilarious.

 

[davmat787]

Because you are an inane islamophobic FUD peddler who took the time to check my posts to defend an obvious a liberal/democrat parody troll you are under the impression thinks like you! While you are riding atop your high horse, continue along with your selective scrutiny that agrees with anyone fueled by cowardice and fear! It's, as stated, hilarious.

Perhaps I did not make myself clear: I was not defending whoever you are talking about, I was merely pointing out the irony of you calling someone else a troll, along with the irony of you complaining about the quality of posts here @ P&N. So don't flatter yourself.

And again, there was no selectivity, I merely pulled up your most recent posts by clicking on that link above your avatar, so again, don't flatter yourself.

No idea where you get the islamophobic notion, but then again it is par for your course to cast all kinds of erroneous accusations, name calling, .etc. Get it out of your head I was in anyway defending someone, I was simply tired of your hypocrisy. This time it was you calling someone else a troll, whether that is true or not is immaterial to you.

Seems like you can't handle your own posts, lol.

Don't want to derail the thread anymore than I already have, so you get the last word.

 

[Alaa]

I believe it is very nieve of you to honestly think that a majority of Muslim like and support what ther United States stands for....
I also believe that those who are not partipating in the demonstrations and rioting at the very least condone what is being said and done!

I see nobody out there in support of the United States...

Please show me where those people are marching and en masse showing support......

Of course we can do a play on words and pretend that the majority of Muslims are in support of the US.......


remember there is always an exception to the rule.....

There were those people who honestly knew what was happening and still supported Adolf Hitler......lolol

Let me get this straight:

- All Muslims are sensitive about anything that falsely attacks our prophet.
- We don't support the US. Why should we? We only support what we see as right.
- There are groups of uneducated violent masses in Islamic countries. These people don't know anything about religion or anything that matters.
- Educated people oppose the violent actions of these uneducated groups.
- Educated people do not involve in violent actions. It is the responsibility of the police to handle these violent people.
- There is a huge criticism led by educated Muslims in all kinds of media of what's happening near US embassy's in Islamic countries.

- I feel really sorry for the death of the US ambassador in Libya. It was a tragic event.

 

[poohbear]

There IS a huge amount of criticism @ what's happening by these mobs by arab media! But u dont see that! When there's a violent racism incident in the USA (the "sensitive" american issue), do americans condone it even if its all over the news? No they condemn and u see it being condemned by alot of leaders of said ethnic group (blacks, hispanics, or whites depending on the offending party). U DONT see the same being done by middle eastern outlets because its all in arabic & it would go counter to the sensationlism that western media loves (for good ratings).

Its disgusting whats being done and nobody there condones it at all! Its the mobs that are unemployed, uneducated, and angry in general that wete itching for a reason to demonstrate or riot.

 

[poohbear]

& whats disturbing is that the people here are talking in absolutes (ie most muslims hate americans) using statistics from god knows where, and speaking as if u can actually generalize about 1.2billion people. I wouldnt be so stupid as to generalize about 350million americans, let alone 1.2billion pll spread all over the world, but u guys go ahead and ASSume all u want about them without even knowing any muslims or arabs.

Whats annoying is when people meet and tell me "u dont look arab" or "i never would've thought ure arabic" because

1. I'm funny
2. I'm educated.
3. I'm a dance instructor
4. I'm handsome as hell
4. I dont fit their ridiculous stereotypes about how an arab is.

Grow up people & stop basing everything u believe on the news.

A 1% minority for muslims is 20 million people. We all have our black sheep, but because there are so many of us our minority is very vocal & most muslims live in countries that are politically unstable despite the fact that *gasp* they had SECULAR governments for over 4 decades! The secular totalitarian governments suppressed islamists & any political dissent, so u can hardly blame their terrible performance on "islamism."

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Thing we don't realize is to the super radical its more the just Mohammed, they would never burn a Jesus or Moses. Its idol worship and only prayer should be made to god.