Are most terrorists, Muslim? According to official FBI numbers: Not even close.

[JD50]

Shouldn't this thread title have been changed by now?

 

[routan]

I clearly explained the difference in the two definitions, but your inability to comprehend stops you from grasping it.

Still waiting for you to show us that stat on Obama.

No you did not. I posted word for word the two definitions. They are the same.

As I am still waiting to see that stat on the A-Bomb.

 

[xj0hnx]

wow, stupidity knows no bound. Faisal Shehzad was an American, does that make ALL Americans terrorists? Same way someone from Iraq committing a terrorist attack makes him/her a Muslim terrorist. You sir are a right retard.

Wow, stupidity knows no bounds. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorist did I? No, I didn't so stop being dishonest. I said THOSE terrorist are Muslims, and they are, so get over it.

Anyone who thinks the A-Bomb was justified is beyond a retard.

Anyone that thinks dropping bombs on a country you are in a declared war against is terrorism is beyond a retard.

 

[PokerGuy]

No you did not. I posted word for word the two definitions. They are the same.

As I am still waiting to see that stat on the A-Bomb.

Here are the stats on the A-bomb:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/17677/majority-supports-use-atomic-bomb-japan-wwii.aspx

Go ahead and post your Obama stat source, we'll be waiting. You can refrain from posting until you either provide that link or admit your stupidity.

 

[routan]

Wow, stupidity knows no bounds. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorist did I? No, I didn't so stop being dishonest. I said THOSE terrorist are Muslims, and they are, so get over it.

You are defining an individual by just one of his/her identity characteristic. You can do the same with Faisal Shehzad, count him as an American terrorist. The London bombers as British terrorists. The Sept 11 acts were committed by American students! See, I can spin the stories just like you can

Anyone that thinks dropping bombs on a country you are in a declared war against is terrorism is beyond a retard.

This was not simply "bombs". This was an Atom Bomb, the effects of which are STILL lasting. Get real, there's not even a comparison. There's a whole category assigned to these types of weapons - WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

 

[PokerGuy]

No you did not. I posted word for word the two definitions. They are the same.

Uh, the primary definition in the report is as:
“the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”

which is almost the same as
"Terrorism = An attack against citizens of a country in order to induce terror and influence a political decision."

Hmmm.... You say they are word for word the same. Funny, but your post says they are almost the same, and in fact the two definitions are not the same as per your own post. Your credibility (if you ever had any) has been completely destroyed, congrats

Oh, still waiting on that source for the Obama info.

 

[routan]

Here are the stats on the A-bomb:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/17677/majority-supports-use-atomic-bomb-japan-wwii.aspx

Go ahead and post your Obama stat source, we'll be waiting. You can refrain from posting until you either provide that link or admit your stupidity.

wow. I'm astonished. Most Americans ARE as stupid as its portrayed to be! I concede. I guess I am the outlier from the majority, and I am the "stupid" one compared to the poll results.

 

[xj0hnx]

You are defining an individual by just one of his/her identity characteristic. You can do the same with Faisal Shehzad, count him as an American terrorist. The London bombers as British terrorists. The Sept 11 acts were committed by American students! See, I can spin the stories just like you can

You can't really be this slow can you?

This was not simply "bombs". This was an Atom Bomb, the effects of which are STILL lasting. Get real, there's not even a comparison. There's a whole category assigned to these types of weapons - WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

And?

 

[routan]

Hmmm.... You say they are word for word the same. Funny, but your post says they are almost the same, and in fact the two definitions are not the same as per your own post. Your credibility (if you ever had any) has been completely destroyed, congrats

Oh, still waiting on that source for the Obama info.

Good Lord. I said I posted the two definitions word for word (PERIOD) They are the same.

I did not write the definitions are the same word for word. Somple English, yes?

 

[xj0hnx]

I guess I am the outlier from the majority, and I am the "stupid" one compared to the poll results.

Yes, you are.

 

[routan]

You can't really be this slow can you?

And?

I'm trying to be as slow as possile to match your pace. Not succeeding yet.

 

[Infohawk]

Shouldn't this thread title have been changed by now?

Not when the goal is to spread misinformation. Extremists are happy to run away once a debate has been set up. It doesn't matter what end result of the debate is just that people think the issue is debatable. In fact, most people recognize there is no debate here. Muslims are the most numerous and dangerous terrorists in the world.

Instead of trying to reform their culture and religion, people like routan and TareX want to try to make excuses for it.

 

[xj0hnx]

I'm trying to be as slow as possile to match your pace. Not succeeding yet.

Stop expending energy attempting to be witty, and concentrate more on comprehension.

 

[bfdd]

Please see post #70

So because something else you might have said could possibly be true, even though it's still opinion, the other bullshit you spouted should just be ignored? No idiot, you can't just say whatever the fuck you want and not source or back it up. You are just talking out your ass pulling figures and opinions from way deep up in there and shoving them out on this forum like they're fact.

 

[routan]

Stop expending energy attempting to be witty, and concentrate more on comprehension.

I only have to expend energy bringing myself down to the comprehension level of posters like yourself.

 

[routan]

So because something else you might have said could possibly be true, even though it's still opinion, the other bullshit you spouted should just be ignored? No idiot, you can't just say whatever the fuck you want and not source or back it up. You are just talking out your ass pulling figures and opinions from way deep up in there and shoving them out on this forum like they're fact.

Ok, so to further your post, as has been proven by yourself, a whole TWENTY percent of this nation believes Obama is a Muslim. The President of the country. With all the information blaring down one's throat, you STILL have a false impression.

Now lets consider an act done thousands of miles away. Where you are not the person affected directly. Lets also not forget the act is 60 years old. And you have the information available that Japan was beaten down, almost ready to give up. You ALSO have the information of the long lasting effects of the radiation. And you support the Atomic Bombing.

My conclusion drawn - anyone who does believe the A-Bomb was justified is beyond retarded.

 

[PokerGuy]

Still waiting for your stat source on Obama.

 

[routan]

Still waiting for your stat source on Obama.

I conceded. Post #82.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Anyone that thinks dropping bombs on a country you are in a declared war against is terrorism is beyond a retard.

Yes that is true!! It was not terrorism at all!
In fact a case has been made that had the US not drooped the A bomb many many more lives would have been lost, than those that were lost by dropping the A Bomb!

The funny and sad and pathetic thing is that those peace niks who think dropping the A Bomb was terrorism are the same people who don`t understand you fight a war to win the war...not to lose the war!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Anyone that thinks dropping bombs on a country you are in a declared war against is terrorism is beyond a retard.

No you my friend are the epitome of a retard....
You realize how many lives were saved on both sides because the United States used the A bomb?
You realize that the lives lost is minisule compared to the lives that would have been lost had the A bomb not been used??
Or is the use of the A bomb a foolish way you have of trying to prove a point?

 

[bfdd]

Ok, so to further your post, as has been proven by yourself, a whole TWENTY percent of this nation believes Obama is a Muslim. The President of the country. With all the information blaring down one's throat, you STILL have a false impression.

Now lets consider an act done thousands of miles away. Where you are not the person affected directly. Lets also not forget the act is 60 years old. And you have the information available that Japan was beaten down, almost ready to give up. You ALSO have the information of the long lasting effects of the radiation. And you support the Atomic Bombing.

My conclusion drawn - anyone who does believe the A-Bomb was justified is beyond retarded.

I didn't even bring up the a-bomb thing. I'm talking specifically about your claim that a VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS THINK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. That claim is false, completely false. I don't give a fuck what your opinion of the a-bomb is, it's strictly that opinion. Hindsight is 20/20. Stop going off subject and fucking apologize to the "vast majority of American's" whose intelligence you just insulted because you're to much of a fucking polesmoker to be honest.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Oh, ok. I get it. So "mass-attacking civilians in order to influence a political decision (surrender)" is JUSTIFIED in war?

Is that what you're saying?

So, if Iraqi/Afghanistani groups detonate a bomb in a civilian US target -that wouldn't be terrorism because, there's "a war going on"?

Ok, keep going.

You are one of those people who believe that there are bo civilian casualties in war?

Since you opened up your idiotic and misleading mouth....let me ask you to explain how you attack an enemy who is embedded in the civilian polulation of a country?

Oh..I get it..you don`t.....you allow them to keep killing your troops without going after them.

Same way Hamas used civilian homes and schools and hospitals to fire rockets into Israel?? hmmmmmmm

 

[JEDIYoda]

What I find dis-heartening but to be expected is the OP who claims to be from or at least living in the middle east has to resort to lies and not telling the truth and posting bogus articles in order to make mhis Muslim people look good. Even when presented with irrefutable facts the prognosis is that the title is a lie and the new title should be -- Most muslims are terrorists, except for those who aren`t.... Now how is that for a thread title??

No I didn`t say -- Muslims were peaceful terrorists!!

Tarex tries to pass of the pie chart as official. Check the FBI link, it's not on there. Instead the chart is from "loonwatch" which appears to be a blatantly pro-Muslim site.

Here's a more interesting chart
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/pu...errorism11.jpg

Muslims and anti-government types are the most dangerous. And when you look at the portion of the population that's Muslim, you see a huge murder-per-capita figure that rightly gives Muslims their reputation as terrorists.

OP, WWYBYWB?

Original article
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not...loonwatch.com)

As stated by others, the FBI definition of terrorism encompasses attacks on persons and property. Although certainly a good definition, I'd like to see what the numbers would be if they limited the definition to attacks on persons (i.e. not including property).

I would like to see a pie chart based on body count over the last 10 years for the whole world. I have no idea if Muslims would represent a bigger slice, but I'm fairly sure the ELF part would be a lot smaller.

 

[xj0hnx]

I only have to expend energy bringing myself down to the comprehension level of posters like yourself.

You couldn't get up to my level if God himself picked you up and set you there.

Are the guys blowing up bombs in Iraqi markets Muslims, or are they not? It's a simple question, and not answering, or trying to further divert will on solidify that you are being dishonest, and a liar.

 

[sandorski]

Why is it Muslim on Muslim violence when people kill each other in the Mideast, but not Christian on Christian violence when people kill each other in the US?