Are most terrorists, Muslim? According to official FBI numbers: Not even close.

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Scotteq

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Looked it up. Not even comparable.



BINGO. EXACTLY. Yes, I was trying to prove that extremist Wahabbis are not murdering bastards. It's funny I thought you spoke English as a first language.

Might I recommend re-checking this thread after going through this crash-course: http://www.learnenglish-a-z.com/learn-to-read-english.html

Firstly: I speak English perfectly well, and understand the situation far far better than you think: Hence my usage of Wahhabi Extremists, instead of the generic "Muslim". I should think that you would be aware of the difference, but sadly.... no...


I should also think you would be aware of the difference between declared wars between countries and maniacs commiting murderous acts in the name of their God. But sadly... no...

I should also think you would be capable of differentiating attacks commited on US soil from attacks commited elsewhere. But sadly.. no. And since you aren't, I went ahead and looked it up for you:


Wahhabi Terrorists: 7,500+ Murdered, 27,000+ Injured. (USA alone: 3,178 killed, and 14,038 wounded)

The "Eco Terrorists" you would describe in the same breath = 0 killed, 0 wounded.


This doesn't even begin to be "Comparable", except insofar as the Wahhabis are far and away more deadly and more dangerous. There's a VERY valid reason we pursue these f*ckers wherever we find them. It's because they're murderous bastards who would kill even those of their own faith to pursue their goal of a "pure" Islam.




Examples of Wahhabi Terrorism:

18 April 1983 - 1983 United States embassy bombing 63 killed, 120 wounded.

23 October 1983 - 1983 Beirut barracks bombing 305 killed, 75 wounded.

26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.

13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. 250 dead, 700 injured.

28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation. 85 dead, more than 300 injured.

24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.

25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.

17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.

14 February 1998 – Bombing in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 13 bombs explode within a 12 km radius. 46 killed and over 200 injured.

7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.

4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, nearly 300 killed.

12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden. 17 Killed, 39 Injured

11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.

13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on Indian parliament in New Delhi by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. 7 dead, 12 injured.

27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.

30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 - Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.

7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.

24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.

12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.

16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafia Jihadia.

11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).

1 September 2004 - Beslan school hostage crisis, approximately 344 civilians including 186 children killed.

2 November 2004 – The murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.

4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.

5 July 2005 - Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.

7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.

23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.

29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.

9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan. Over 60 killed and 115 injured. Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.

7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. A series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi. 28 killed and over 100 injured.

11 July 2006 – 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings, Mumbai, India; a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai. 209 killed and over 700 injured.

14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.

26 July 2008 – 2008 Ahmedabad bombings, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 21 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 56 dead and 200 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence. Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.

13 September 2008 – Bombing series in Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead and 130 injured, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 3 people dead.

26 November 2008 – Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial capital, Mumbai. The government of India blamed Pakistan based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba and stated that the terrorists killed/caught were citizens of Pakistan, a claim which the Pakistani government first refused but then accepted when given proof. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.

25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.

28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 killed and over 200 injured.

3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.

1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.

1 May 2010 - New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.

28 May 2010 - Attacks on Ahmadi Mosques Lahore, Pakistan. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed attacks on two mosques simultaneously belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, killing nearly 100 and injuring many others.
 
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Infohawk

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Tarex tries to pass of the pie chart as official. Check the FBI link, it's not on there. Instead the chart is from "loonwatch" which appears to be a blatantly pro-Muslim site.

Here's a more interesting chart
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/image/Terrorism11.jpg

Muslims and anti-government types are the most dangerous. And when you look at the portion of the population that's Muslim, you see a huge murder-per-capita figure that rightly gives Muslims their reputation as terrorists.
 

tk149

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OP, WWYBYWB?

Original article
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+loonwatch+(loonwatch.com)

As stated by others, the FBI definition of terrorism encompasses attacks on persons and property. Although certainly a good definition, I'd like to see what the numbers would be if they limited the definition to attacks on persons (i.e. not including property).

I would like to see a pie chart based on body count over the last 10 years for the whole world. I have no idea if Muslims would represent a bigger slice, but I'm fairly sure the ELF part would be a lot smaller.
 

xj0hnx

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Tarex tries to pass of the pie chart as official. Check the FBI link, it's not on there. Instead the chart is from "loonwatch" which appears to be a blatantly pro-Muslim site.

Here's a more interesting chart
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005/image/Terrorism11.jpg

Muslims and anti-government types are the most dangerous. And when you look at the portion of the population that's Muslim, you see a huge murder-per-capita figure that rightly gives Muslims their reputation as terrorists.

Good catch. It's now official, the OP is a lying troll.
 

busydude

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This is a reputable source to get an info/statistic.

https://wits.nctc.gov/FederalDiscoverWITS/index.do?N=0

its pretty extensive and it included incidents that occurred world wide.

EDIT: here is the list from 1/1/2004 to 12/31/2010

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routan

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No, they are obviously NOT the same definitions, or things like robberies or simple vandalism would not be included. Obviously the list is not limited to acts that the general public would consider "terrorism". The FBI didn't intend it's list to be used in that sense either, it's a stupid author/article that tries to use statistics to reach a completely wrong and stupid conclusion.

I'd suggest you take a class in English. High School level.
 

PokerGuy

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I'd suggest you take a class in English. High School level.

Sure thing. Or, as an alternative, you could learn to read and comprehend the written word. You've demonstrated an astounding inability to grasp even the most simple concepts.
 

routan

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Right, and those terrorist are Muslims. The war isn't making them blow up their own civilians in markets.

wow, stupidity knows no bound. Faisal Shehzad was an American, does that make ALL Americans terrorists? Same way someone from Iraq committing a terrorist attack makes him/her a Muslim terrorist. You sir are a right retard.

Our country was at war with Japan, calling that a "terrorist" act is a stretch, if you want to play the stretch believability game, one could say that the bombings in fact saved many more lives than they took since it forced the surrender of the Japanese and ended the war.

Stop diverting attention from the misleading title, and out right lie.

Anyone who thinks the A-Bomb was justified is beyond a retard.
 

PokerGuy

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Anyone who thinks the A-Bomb was justified is beyond a retard.

Once again you demonstrate your stupidity so eloquently. The vast majority of the people in this country agree that it was perfectly justified. You mess with the bull, you get the horns, that's how it works.
 

routan

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Sure thing. Or, as an alternative, you could learn to read and comprehend the written word. You've demonstrated an astounding inability to grasp even the most simple concepts.

Dont forget to post your HS diploma once you're done.
 

Infohawk

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I am shocked that routan is supporting the arguments spouted by a pro-muslim website! And doubly-shocked that he resorts to personal attacks when the flaws in his positions are pointed out! Thank you routan for showing us that muslims are thoughtful and rational people... You've contributed in a great way to this forum.
 

routan

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I am shocked that routan is supporting the arguments spouted by a pro-muslim website! And doubly-shocked that he resorts to personal attacks when the flaws in his positions are pointed out! Thank you routan for showing us that muslims are thoughtful and rational people... You've contributed in a great way to this forum.

Infohawk, your stance is well recognized by most members on the forum.
 

routan

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Once again you demonstrate your stupidity so eloquently. The vast majority of the people in this country agree that it was perfectly justified. You mess with the bull, you get the horns, that's how it works.

Similar to hoow the vast majority of the people in this country believe Obama is a Muslim and Iraq had WMDs?

As I said, anyone who believes that the A-bombs were justified is beyond a retard.
 

PokerGuy

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Similar to hoow the vast majority of the people in this country believe Obama is a Muslim and Iraq had WMDs?

Keep digging the hole deeper idiot: please show me the stat showing that the vast majority of people in the country believe Obama is a muslim. I'll even make it easier. Forget vast majority, go with simple majority. We'll be waiting for your brilliant response. :D
 

routan

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Sorry to burst your bubble, I'm working on my PhD in applied logistics right now. Where did you get your well deserved degree in stupidity?

UPhoenix? You can continue this cycle. I posted the two definitions used, one by the poster, the other one by the FBI's website. You can choose to use your "PhD" education or continue being stupid.
 

routan

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Keep digging the hole deeper idiot: please show me the stat showing that the vast majority of people in the country believe Obama is a muslim. I'll even make it easier. Forget vast majority, go with simple majority. We'll be waiting for your brilliant response. :D

After you show me your stats where most Americans believe A-Bomb was justified :)
 

bfdd

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Similar to hoow the vast majority of the people in this country believe Obama is a Muslim and Iraq had WMDs?

As I said, anyone who believes that the A-bombs were justified is beyond a retard.

Which "vast majority" of people in this country believe Obama is a Muslim?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/19/nearly-americans-thinks-obama-muslim-survey-shows/

look foxnews!

article title said:
Nearly 1 in 5 Americans Thinks Obama Is Muslim, Survey Shows

20% isn't a majority, let alone a vast majority. fail spin is fail.
 

BurnItDwn

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Most left winged eco groups tend to burn down buildings, put spikes in tree's to injure loggers, or damage other private property for their cause. Releasing 5 squirrels wouldnt fall under a terrorist act I am sure, even by this loosely defined FBI study.

Most lefties loathe, or at least hate the wingnuts who burn down buildings or hurt people, ram into whaling ships, etc...

Now, there are some "right wing" terrorists, abortion clinic bombers for example... and I'm sure most on the right see them as completely batshit insane too.

Pretty much, it doesn't matter what your religion or political views are... It's how crazy and evil you are.
 

PokerGuy

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UPhoenix? You can continue this cycle. I posted the two definitions used, one by the poster, the other one by the FBI's website. You can choose to use your "PhD" education or continue being stupid.

I clearly explained the difference in the two definitions, but your inability to comprehend stops you from grasping it.

Still waiting for you to show us that stat on Obama.