Are most terrorists, Muslim? According to official FBI numbers: Not even close.

[Scotteq]

Why is it Muslim on Muslim violence when people kill each other in the Mideast, but not Christian on Christian violence when people kill each other in the US?

Why did the killings take place?

Over a Bible/Khoran? Or over a Crack Pipe?


Therein lies your answer.

 

[JEDIYoda]

but not Christian on Christian violence when people kill each other in the US?

Not the same at all and you of all people know that!!
I don`t see christians sending there children into shopping malls to blow up other people do you?
Also the demographics of the US are far different as to those who profess a religious affiliation compared to the the middle east.....nice try though...

 

[werepossum]

I am not seeing the vast right-wing violence that is so talked about here. Maybe right wingers only recently became violent due to Sarah Palin and her atmosphere of hate? Guess conservative radio does not cause violent right-wing attacks, as it was alive and well during those years.

The left defines as right wing violence failing to turn ourselves in to a federally approved termination center. In their eyes we are violent simply because we continue to exist without chanting "Hope . . . Change . . . Brains . . ."

I don't remember any of the other groups killing or trying to kill a lot of people chosen at random just for the lulz. FBIs definition of terrorism is a fail. Motive and politics are clearly visible all over the article,

btw, try to look for a similar pie chart for hate crimes in the city of new york.

Very true. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, let's get those damned Jews!

 

[JS80]

Why is it Muslim on Muslim violence when people kill each other in the Mideast, but not Christian on Christian violence when people kill each other in the US?

Because Protestants and Catholics don't kill each other claiming they are better. Anymore.

Sunnis vs Shiites on the other hand is a real modern conflict.

PS Which end do you break your egg?

 

[Steeplerot]

The left defines as right wing violence failing to turn ourselves in to a federally approved termination center.

This is why people associate delusional madmen with talk radio listeners.
Here is a great example. Sarcasm? Or have you really retreated that far into a paranoid entertainment fantasy world of "political" pundits laughing at you all the way to the bank?

When people have lost the sense of reality and attachment to his fellow Americans and that they are out to "get" you, you have a problem.

 

[sandorski]

Because Protestants and Catholics don't kill each other claiming they are better. Anymore.

Sunnis vs Shiites on the other hand is a real modern conflict.

PS Which end do you break your egg?

Same thing? I suspect it's more like the IRA vs British rather than the early years of Protestantism.

 

[Infohawk]

Why is it Muslim on Muslim violence when people kill each other in the Mideast, but not Christian on Christian violence when people kill each other in the US?

To begin with, I'm not sure it's always characterized as Muslim on Muslim violence. Even assuming it is, it's probably because Islam is a more central feature in Middle-Eastern countries than Christianity is in the US. Christianity is very unimportant in most of Europe. It's more important in the states but in many places, including in blue cities where power is concentrated, Christianity is not really that relevant.

 

[Craig234]

No you my friend are the epitome of a retard....
You realize how many lives were saved on both sides because the United States used the A bomb?
You realize that the lives lost is minisule compared to the lives that would have been lost had the A bomb not been used??
Or is the use of the A bomb a foolish way you have of trying to prove a point?

I'm not sure how many lives were saved by using the A bomb, instead of pursuing peace negotiations the Japanese were pursuing - we refused to meet with them.

As I understand it, we refused peace based on their only condition that the Emperor remain, a conditon we ended up meeting anyway.

Instead, it seems there was some combination of being caught up in war so that the violence didn't matter to us, and the 'benefits' of using the bomb establishing our power.

 

[sandorski]

Why did the killings take place?

Over a Bible/Khoran? Or over a Crack Pipe?


Therein lies your answer.

Most likely neither.

 

[sandorski]

To begin with, I'm not sure it's always characterized as Muslim on Muslim violence. Even assuming it is, it's probably because Islam is a more central feature in Middle-Eastern countries than Christianity is in the US. Christianity is very unimportant in most of Europe. It's more important in the states but in many places, including in blue cities where power is concentrated, Christianity is not really that relevant.

"Muslim" is thrown in for nefarious, albeit often the user is unaware, reasons. That is to promote the Us vs Them.

 

[Infohawk]

"Muslim" is thrown in for nefarious, albeit often the user is unaware, reasons. That is to promote the Us vs Them.

Okay now you're just getting non-sequitur because you don't have a response.

When the 9/11 hijackers went to their deaths screaming Allah Akbar it's not misleading for the press to point that out. In fact you can't properly report the story without noting the motive. People want to know WHY crimes happen, not just that they happened. Please feel free to keep defending a barbaric religion though.

 

[werepossum]

The onset of violence in Iraq was brought about by our invading the country. So it is pointless to bring that up.

If you want me to complete the list, a la Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2006"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2006[/URL]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2004

and so on.

As per that list, a large number of such acts were in Iraq. Which I will exclude, like i said above, that country had insignificant terrorist acts before we invaded.

The other region is Pakistan. Which also saw a massive upsurge because of our forces in the neighboring country, pushing the Taliban into Pakistan.

Violence begets violence.

The remaining includes countries from all over the world, India, Sril Lanka, Chechnya, Greece, Phillipines, Ukraine, ,Spain, Israel and so on.

Feel free to go through the list.

Hussein invaded Iran, invaded Kuwait, gassed thousands of his Iraqi citizens, desolated the Marsh Arabs' environment, murdered tens of thousands of his own citizens by virtually every means possible, ran government-operated rape rooms, paid families of suicide bombers for murdering Jews - and yet "The onset of violence in Iraq was brought about by our invading the country."

You are dangerous. You are emblematic of why people distrust Muslims - ALL Muslims. You do not belong in a Western nation. You do not belong in a secular, predominantly Muslim nation. You belong only in an Islamic theocracy, where your skewed viewpoint would fit in.

 

[werepossum]

This is why people associate delusional madmen with talk radio listeners.
Here is a great example. Sarcasm? Or have you really retreated that far into a paranoid entertainment fantasy world of "political" pundits laughing at you all the way to the bank?

When people have lost the sense of reality and attachment to his fellow Americans and that they are out to "get" you, you have a problem.

WTF? Dude, if you really have to ask if that was sarcasm, seek professional help. Perhaps you haven't noticed, but there aren't any "federally approved termination centers". That should be a dead giveaway.

On the other hand, all Communist nations have established the equivalent. So perhaps with your ideology it's understandable that you wouldn't see the humor.

 

[sandorski]

Okay now you're just getting non-sequitur because you don't have a response.

When the 9/11 hijackers went to their deaths screaming Allah Akbar it's not misleading for the press to point that out. In fact you can't properly report the story without noting the motive. People want to know WHY crimes happen, not just that they happened. Please feel free to keep defending a barbaric religion though.

They did this?

 

[Infohawk]

They did this?

*sigh*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_flight_93#Revolt

How fucking purposely obtuse are you? Just shows you are still that little Christian born-again zealot on the inside. You think you broke away but you're damaged goods dude. You argue just like a fundie.

 

[alkemyst]

gotta love our masses. Living each day to the fullest with their heads in the sand.

 

[sandorski]

*sigh*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_flight_93#Revolt

How fucking purposely obtuse are you? Just shows you are still that little Christian born-again zealot on the inside. You think you broke away but you're damaged goods dude. You argue just like a fundie.

Ah well, doesn't change much. Just because they said it doesn't mean it's the Religion's fault. Not that I'm defending Religion.