are many conservatives christian fascists in disguise

[sandorski]

Its a figment of our imaginations yes what a shocker an atheist would think that way. Why go through all the trouble with an answer to a question nobody asked.

What he just posted is a classic argument for the existence of God. Your beef is with William Lane Craig and countless apologists who have existed in history, not with whom you have quoted.

 

[justoh]

As an agnostic I find it humorous watching young atheist make fools of themselves by attacking people who think differently from themselves. Older atheist are quite secure in their beliefs and find no need to do such.

Idiotic. Atheists don't believe in gods. Hello? Anyone home? Not believing isn't the same as believing not. Are you sure you aren't christian? May as well be.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Idiotic. Atheists don't believe in gods. Hello? Anyone home? Not believing isn't the same as believing not. Are you sure you aren't christian? May as well be.

Thank you for showing your ignorance, atheist do not believe there's a god. Most older atheists I know are comfortable with their beliefs as such to be the case. They also have a "live and let live" attitude towards others.

 

[Abwx]

But at that point, Usama Bin Laden was not one of the world's greatest terrorists, he was a guy fighting (or more accurately, funding the ones fighting) the Soviets who had invaded their nation, set up a repressive puppet regime, and effectively annexed them in preparation for doing the same to Pakistan in search of the warm water port that would allow them to be a global superpower. Are you going to argue that helping people defend themselves is bad?

Bin Laden was wrong to fight the soviets, they didnt invade afghanistan contrary to what was spread by the western propaganda, they were called by the legitimate and laic regime to fight obscurantists that refused the newly voted laws that put women and men on an equal status, actualy the US subsided an insurgency that was counter revolutionary and deeply retarded, that is , the US is THE cause of the lack of women rights in this country, as such the ultra conservative Reagan regime was in full aggreement with other conservatives, even more retarded thoses ones, of a so called muslim country, so yes, conservative are prones to fascism and human rights violation, much more than any progressist.

 

[justoh]

Thank you for showing your ignorance, atheist do not believe there's a god. Most older atheists I know are comfortable with their beliefs as such to be the case. They also have a "live and let live" attitude towards others.

Maybe this quote from douglas adams will help you understand:

Other people will ask how I can possibly claim to know. Isn't belief-that-there-is-not-a-god as irrational, arrogant, etc., as belief-that-there-is-a-god? To which I say no for several reasons. First of all I do not believe-that-there-is-not-a-god. I don't see what belief has got to do with it. I believe or don't believe my four-year-old daughter when she tells me that she didn't make that mess on the floor. I believe in justice and fair play (though I don't know exactly how we achieve them, other than by continually trying against all possible odds of success). I also believe that England should enter the European Monetary Union. I am not remotely enough of an economist to argue the issue vigorously with someone who is, but what little I do know, reinforced with a hefty dollop of gut feeling, strongly suggests to me that it's the right course. I could very easily turn out to be wrong, and I know that. These seem to me to be legitimate uses for the word believe. As a carapace for the protection of irrational notions from legitimate questions, however, I think that the word has a lot of mischief to answer for. So, I do not believe-that-there-is-no-god.

So whatever beliefs your atheists friends are comfortable with have nothing to do with gods, really. Doesn't make sense for you to reference their beliefs.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yeah you guys say it's a joke now, but for over a thousand years you were using that argument, and quite seriously. It's still the best argument for his existence. lol:

By definition, God is a being than which none greater can be imagined.
A being that necessarily exists in reality is greater than a being that does not necessarily exist.
Thus, by definition, if God exists as an idea in the mind but does not necessarily exist in reality, then we can imagine something that is greater than God.
But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God.
Thus, if God exists in the mind as an idea, then God necessarily exists in reality.
God exists in the mind as an idea.
Therefore, God necessarily exists in reality

Of course it's ridiculous, but what do you expect from christians.

I sense a wee bit of anger here and I suggest that you lighten up. I'm OK with what you believe and am not personally attacking you....just having a little fun. However, that said, some might say that your defensiveness and combative behavior speaks volumes.

 

[justoh]

I sense a wee bit of anger here and I suggest that you lighten up. I'm OK with what you believe and am not personally attacking you....just having a little fun. However, that said, some might say that your defensiveness and combative behavior speaks volumes.

Except you don't know anything about my beliefs. Some might say that your persistent inability to understand what you read speaks volumes. You still don't even understand your own signature

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Except you don't know anything about my beliefs. Some might say that your persistent inability to understand what you read speaks volumes. You still don't even understand your own signature

Your right, I know very little about your beliefs; however, I'm OK with whatever they are in this regard. But I do find it incredibly ironic that you presume to know my beliefs and the meaning I pour into my sig. I somehow doubt you're capable of perceiving your blatant hypocrisy...but hey, I'm OK with that too.

 

[OverVolt]

What he just posted is a classic argument for the existence of God. Your beef is with William Lane Craig and countless apologists who have existed in history, not with whom you have quoted.

I'm generally not a fan of the apologists so that makes sense.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

What he just posted is a classic argument for the existence of God. Your beef is with William Lane Craig and countless apologists who have existed in history, not with whom you have quoted.

I remember studying all the various logical arguments for the existence of God in my college Logic class...although flawed, I thought Berkeley did the best job.