are amd's drivers geared towards specific games like nvidia's are?

[Anarchist420]

i am definitely going to keep my GTX780, but I was thinking about replacing most of what is in my old reliable antec 300 with more modern hardware and a XFX Double D R9 290. so i want to have a system where i change IHV drivers at will.

my biggest complaint with the GTX 780 is not much do with the GPU die and it certainly has a marvelous cooler and a PCB that has worked well; it is that nvidia's driver team only supports a handful of apps while breaking image quality (or at least not adjusting drivers according to app engine changes) and breaking/taking away options as well as never restoring and never adding new options anymore.

so does AMD work more on fixes as they find them or do they only look at the latest titles? i was thinking the latter, but i wanted some perspectives from many people

thanks in advance

 

[Flapdrol1337]

it is that nvidia's driver team only supports a handful of apps while breaking image quality (or at least not adjusting drivers according to app engine changes) and breaking/taking away options as well as never restoring and never adding new options anymore.

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[amenx]

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What I thought.

"nvidia's driver team only supports a handful of apps while breaking image quality"... Dont mess with my image quality. I would change sides in a heartbeat if I thought one of them had the slightest sliver of an advantage here. I would even take the loudest, most obnoxious GPU if it had better IQ and was twice as expensive.

 

[Red Hawk]

It's Anarchist...he usually fixates on things and makes assumptions that no one else does.

To answer your question Anarchist, I don't think there's any difference between AMD and Nvidia for whatever you're talking about.

 

[RussianSensation]

What I thought.

"nvidia's driver team only supports a handful of apps while breaking image quality"... Dont mess with my image quality. I would change sides in a heartbeat if I thought one of them had the slightest sliver of an advantage here. I would even take the loudest, most obnoxious GPU if it had better IQ and was twice as expensive.

There are differences in IQ.

AMD's VSR is better than DSR, but it's not as flexible/seamless in as many games. AMD's SSAA also tends to be better per ComputerBase, while NV's tends to produce issues with LOD and constrast on some games.

OTOH, with NV you get PhysX, TXAA and MFAA and NV inspector allows for a lot of IQ flexibility. Also, SSAA support can be better with NV in older games, plus with NV you can choose between two distinct types of super-sampling.

It's debatable to each individual how important these IQ differences are.

 

[Anarchist420]

There are differences in IQ. AMD's VSR is better than DSR, but it's not as flexible/seamless in as many games. AMD's SSAA also tends to be better per ComputerBase, while NV's tends to produce issues with LOD and constrast on some games. OTOH, with NV you get PhysX, TXAA and MFAA and NV inspector allows for a lot of IQ flexibility. Also, SSAA support can be better with NV in older games, plus with NV you can choose between two distinct types of super-sampling. It's debatable to each individual how important these IQ differences are.

thanks I could identify like 10 IQ differences right off the top of my head between fermi and the 5770 I had, but i'm going to refrain at least for now; they were either in nvidia's favor or AMD really had drivers that had to be tweaked and i just didn't do it right.

as for AA whatever happened to AMD's edge detect? IIRC it had the best image quality and was supposed to compatible with every game. Given good driver coding, i don't see how a 290's GCN version doesn't have enough horsepower to make it look good and run fast with every game; even at non-boost core clock speed. I can't believe nvidia gave us TXAA, FXAA, and DSR while acting like they were doing us a favor; those are the worst forms of AA that i can think of. LOD bias is an issue with SGSSAA in many games and it sucks. I heard it can't even be forced in Win 8.1

It's Anarchist...he usually fixates on things and makes assumptions that no one else does. To answer your question Anarchist, I don't think there's any difference between AMD and Nvidia for whatever you're talking about.

Thanks Red Hawk

However, i was told that emulators aren't given any support by nvidia. that doesn't mean it's true but i assume it is given that 1) the openGL plugin in Dolphin is VERY slow on my GTX 780 while the DX11 one is completely playable. Unfortunately, the DX11 one looks no where near as good.

 

[Final8ty]

Edge detect is still there as well as EQ AA.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

However, i was told that emulators aren't given any support by nvidia. that doesn't mean it's true but i assume it is given that 1) the openGL plugin in Dolphin is VERY slow on my GTX 780 while the DX11 one is completely playable. Unfortunately, the DX11 one looks no where near as good.

https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/0...-and-opengl-drivers-hall-fameshame/?nocr=true

no support, but at least the drivers are good.

 

[Red Hawk]

Thanks Red Hawk

However, i was told that emulators aren't given any support by nvidia. that doesn't mean it's true but i assume it is given that 1) the openGL plugin in Dolphin is VERY slow on my GTX 780 while the DX11 one is completely playable. Unfortunately, the DX11 one looks no where near as good.

Well I don't think either Nvidia or AMD give any sort of official developer support to emulators like Dolphin. It just comes down to the developer team behind Dolphin to make it work on any given graphics card.

 

[Anarchist420]

Well I don't think either Nvidia or AMD give any sort of official developer support to emulators like Dolphin. It just comes down to the developer team behind Dolphin to make it work on any given graphics card.

thank you for reminding me of that. i'm thinking the issue is that the nvidia driver team hasn't added a GL extension that makes the integer performance in GL as high as they made it in DX11... i believe i read that somewhere

with a GK110 (even if it's not a titan), the hardware is right there, yet nvidia's driver team doesn't do what could be done in less than 10 minutes.

So I really hope that Samsung and nvidia do something like an informal patents swap like Thomas J Kalinske's Sega did to Atari in 1995. Just as Atari was not possibly able to make Virtua Fighter for the Jaguar (i read that was one of the 7 patents Sega said atari could use in the november 95 issue of game players), well, I guess nvidia is a good corporate citizen that makes some damn fine GPUs.