Are all these verses actually in the bible?

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Then why do people quote the Old Testament if it has been rendered obsolete?

Because it proves the point THEY want to make.

Such as your previous post above?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Then why do people quote the Old Testament if it has been rendered obsolete?

Like any historical document, there are still things worth knowing about in the Old Testament. If you are a Christian you should be at least vaguely aware of the Jewish faith as it is the foundation Christianity.

Comparison: The Articles of Confederation are obsolete, but we still study them in school (in the US anyway).

$20 says that at least 9 times out 10 of if you ask the average HS grad what the Articles of Confederation are you will be greeted with a confused stare.

And of the other 10% of the time, 9 times out of 10 they'll think that it pertains to the Civil war.

Too true.

 

[CptObvious]

Regarding the 'garments of two different threads' quote, that refers to Leviticus 19:19 and Deuteronomy 22:11, or the Jewish law of shatnez. Specifically, it prohibits combining linen and wool together. *shrug*

 

[mercanucaribe]

Why can Bible beaters pick and choose what they want to follow literally?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Why can Bible beaters pick and choose what they want to follow literally?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

That's why 🙂

 

[mugs]

Such a great scene... The last line is great.

 

[jimbob200521]

Damn...

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Interesting reading regarding Leviticus 18-20

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Why can Bible beaters pick and choose what they want to follow literally?

Because it's the only way the can justify following their fairy tales. Most of Christianity is an abomination against mankind. The atrocities mandated by the Bible make radical Islam look like Barney singing a song for kids. But since weak-minded fools want to believe in eternal paradise they just filter out the parts of the religion they don't like. They are no REAL Christians on earth, there are just millions of poseurs who have chosen one belief from column A, 2 beliefs from colum B and managed to convince themselves that what they WANT to do is really what God expects them to do.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Then why do people quote the Old Testament if it has been rendered obsolete?

Like any historical document, there are still things worth knowing about in the Old Testament. If you are a Christian you should be at least vaguely aware of the Jewish faith as it is the foundation Christianity.

Comparison: The Articles of Confederation are obsolete, but we still study them in school (in the US anyway).

$20 says that at least 9 times out 10 of if you ask the average HS grad what the Articles of Confederation are you will be greeted with a confused stare.

I really need to sit down, watch good war films, drink some beer, and discuss history with you one day. :beer: 🙂

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Then why do people quote the Old Testament if it has been rendered obsolete?

Like any historical document, there are still things worth knowing about in the Old Testament. If you are a Christian you should be at least vaguely aware of the Jewish faith as it is the foundation Christianity.

Comparison: The Articles of Confederation are obsolete, but we still study them in school (in the US anyway).

$20 says that at least 9 times out 10 of if you ask the average HS grad what the Articles of Confederation are you will be greeted with a confused stare.

I really need to sit down, watch good war films, drink some beer, and discuss history with you one day. :beer: 🙂

If I ever make it down to Alabama or you to Chicago you're on. 😀:beer:

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: CptObvious
Regarding the 'garments of two different threads' quote, that refers to Leviticus 19:19 and Deuteronomy 22:11, or the Jewish law of shatnez. Specifically, it prohibits combining linen and wool together. *shrug*

washing them together would be a bitch, thats probably it 😉

 

[GoPackGo]

In the same light that Homosexuality is an abomination in the old testement, so is eating pork.

How many Christians just ate Ham on Easter Sunday?

I know I cooked up a 16LB Ham for my family...are we all going to hell?

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: mooglekit
They are all there, but also all Old Testament laws which, from a Christian perspective, we were all released from through Jesus' death on the cross...this has been discussed in a bunch of threads before and will inevitably end up in a flame war, but yeah...

Basically arguments like: "You're a hypocrite because you work on the Sabbath" or "The Sabbath is Saturday, dumbass"

I love these threads! 😀

So they are not valid anymore?

Should you kill [murder]?

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: mooglekit
They are all there, but also all Old Testament laws which, from a Christian perspective, we were all released from through Jesus' death on the cross...this has been discussed in a bunch of threads before and will inevitably end up in a flame war, but yeah...

Basically arguments like: "You're a hypocrite because you work on the Sabbath" or "The Sabbath is Saturday, dumbass"

I love these threads! 😀

So they are not valid anymore?

Should you kill [murder]?

That's illegal in more than the biblical sense.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: randomint
the entire bible (old and new testament) are full of modifications. who knows what's in there is correct or not

The entire bible is false. If god did exist (I'm an atheist, but I like to ponder), humans would not be able to accurately portray his will in words - It's too perfect for us to understand.

Also, humans, especially fundamentalists, are evil. They've changed the wording so many times because they want it to fit their beliefs. I don't believe there is any sort of good or useful message in the "good" book.

And before anyone says "but it teaches good morals/ethics", just know that you don't need to worship a book to be a good person...

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
In the same light that Homosexuality is an abomination in the old testement, so is eating pork.

How many Christians just ate Ham on Easter Sunday?

I know I cooked up a 16LB Ham for my family...are we all going to hell?

unfortunately for you... homosexuality was condemned in the new testament as well...
pork was not.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
In the same light that Homosexuality is an abomination in the old testement, so is eating pork.

How many Christians just ate Ham on Easter Sunday?

I know I cooked up a 16LB Ham for my family...are we all going to hell?

unfortunately for you... homosexuality was condemned in the new testament as well...
pork was not.

Where was it condemned? I have never read it so I know very little about verses and passages and what not.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Why can Bible beaters pick and choose what they want to follow literally?

Because it's the only way the can justify following their fairy tales. Most of Christianity is an abomination against mankind. The atrocities mandated by the Bible make radical Islam look like Barney singing a song for kids. But since weak-minded fools want to believe in eternal paradise they just filter out the parts of the religion they don't like. They are no REAL Christians on earth, there are just millions of poseurs who have chosen one belief from column A, 2 beliefs from colum B and managed to convince themselves that what they WANT to do is really what God expects them to do.

...and the most petty, worthless, spiteful, hateful vile creatures of all are those that are not happy enough to simply believe in nothing at all and keep to themselves, but will continually and incessantly attack the beliefs of others. You are example # A1 in this regard. I hope you're proud of it because you sure do work hard for it.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: mooglekit
They are all there, but also all Old Testament laws which, from a Christian perspective, we were all released from through Jesus' death on the cross...this has been discussed in a bunch of threads before and will inevitably end up in a flame war, but yeah...

Basically arguments like: "You're a hypocrite because you work on the Sabbath" or "The Sabbath is Saturday, dumbass"

I love these threads! 😀

So they are not valid anymore?

Should you kill [murder]?

That's illegal in more than the biblical sense.

Is it still sinful?

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Where was it condemned? I have never read it so I know very little about verses and passages and what not.

Romans 1:27 : And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Cor. 6:9 : Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Jude 1:7 : Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Homosexuality was practiced in Sodom and Gomorrha and is one of the act condemned in the verse in Jude (Gen. 19:5).

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: mooglekit
They are all there, but also all Old Testament laws which, from a Christian perspective, we were all released from through Jesus' death on the cross...this has been discussed in a bunch of threads before and will inevitably end up in a flame war, but yeah...

Basically arguments like: "You're a hypocrite because you work on the Sabbath" or "The Sabbath is Saturday, dumbass"

I love these threads! 😀

So they are not valid anymore?

Should you kill [murder]?

That's illegal in more than the biblical sense.

Is it still sinful?

It's illegal and wrong. But I wouldn't do it even if it wasn't.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Where was it condemned? I have never read it so I know very little about verses and passages and what not.

Romans 1:27 : And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Cor. 6:9 : Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Jude 1:7 : Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Homosexuality was practiced in Sodom and Gomorrha and is one of the act condemned in the verse in Jude (Gen. 19:5).

Who wrote all that? Is it labeled by Author, like Romans wrote his part, Cor his, and Jude his?
I really know nothing about the bible.
I think Cor. might mean Corinthians?

 

[Steve]

Letter of (author) to Romans/Corinthians, etc.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
In the same light that Homosexuality is an abomination in the old testement, so is eating pork.

How many Christians just ate Ham on Easter Sunday?

I know I cooked up a 16LB Ham for my family...are we all going to hell?

unfortunately for you... homosexuality was condemned in the new testament as well...
pork was not.

Where was it condemned? I have never read it so I know very little about verses and passages and what not.

1 Corinthians 6 (New International Version)

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.