Are all people with degrees closed minded?

[topslop1]

Yes - that's why you sleep with college students, not post college students.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: gotsmack

1. They deserve it because they earned it. Do you have any idea of how hard it is to be accepted into a PhD program and how hard it is to not be kicked out and then actually do a decent thesis.

I'll say it again- nobody *deserves* anything. This is universal, across the board. What may be all-important to you may be absolutely worthless to somebody else. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

You'll get respect if people decide to respect you. If not, they'll do as they please.

Originally posted by: gotsmackBill Gates decided not to go back to Harvard because he had a really great business opportunity, if it flopped he could have went back. For every person like him who did not finish school there are plenty opf other people who did not finish school and did poorly in the job market.

If a person is able to get into Harvard in the first place, they'll most likely be successful whether they drop out or not. You make it sound like he's just a normal guy who got lucky despite having no degree. Reality sees it differently. Bill Gates was always far smarter than your average person, and has vision and comprehension that most people only dream of. He can out-think his competition (everyone else), so obviously he was going to be successful in life. The richest man in the world- that took being at the right place at the right time, but he was never in danger of being a failure. He scored 1590 on his SAT and Paul Allen scored 1600. While both were college dropouts, that doesn't negate the fact that they're both at the top of the bell curve.

My point is that you're putting the cart before the horse. Sure, a dumb person can't think and probably can't get a degree, but a genius can think and will likely be successful whether they get the degree or not. I contend that if you performed a study following the progress of students at Harvard vs. the students at other "average" colleges, Harvard attendees will usually be much more successful, and even Harvard dropouts will be more successful than graduates from a lesser school.

Intelligence is what guides you through life, not paper.

 

[chambersc]

You got owned by the majority mentality. THey had degrees and you didn't thus, in their mind at least, them > you.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: gotsmack

1. They deserve it because they earned it. Do you have any idea of how hard it is to be accepted into a PhD program and how hard it is to not be kicked out and then actually do a decent thesis.

I'll say it again- nobody *deserves* anything. This is universal, across the board. What may be all-important to you may be absolutely worthless to somebody else. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

You'll get respect if people decide to respect you. If not, they'll do as they please.

Originally posted by: gotsmackBill Gates decided not to go back to Harvard because he had a really great business opportunity, if it flopped he could have went back. For every person like him who did not finish school there are plenty opf other people who did not finish school and did poorly in the job market.

If a person is able to get into Harvard in the first place, they'll most likely be successful whether they drop out or not. You make it sound like he's just a normal guy who got lucky despite having no degree. Reality sees it differently. Bill Gates was always far smarter than your average person, and has vision and comprehension that most people only dream of. He can out-think his competition (everyone else), so obviously he was going to be successful in life. The richest man in the world- that took being at the right place at the right time, but he was never in danger of being a failure. He scored 1590 on his SAT and Paul Allen scored 1600. While both were college dropouts, that doesn't negate the fact that they're both at the top of the bell curve.

My point is that you're putting the cart before the horse. Sure, a dumb person can't think and probably can't get a degree, but a genius can think and will likely be successful whether they get the degree or not. I contend that if you performed a study following the progress of students at Harvard vs. the students at other "average" colleges, Harvard attendees will usually be much more successful, and even Harvard dropouts will be more successful than graduates from a lesser school.

Intelligence is what guides you through life, not paper.

1. Again I disagree with you. A PhD is paid for in full with sweat and youth. I don't care how big of a prick someone is, if they have an acreddited PhD in a real subject, I'm going to call them doctor and they have every right to be addressed by their title and it is an official title granted to them by the charter from the state.

2. I agree with you on the intelligence + luck thing.