Arab League

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I love the U.S. ... well not so much with Bush .. but it is still 1,000,000x better than what Islamic countries have to offer.

Turkey isn't so bad, but they aren't run by Islamic fanatical wackos.

Islam has destroyed the Muslim countries.
Lebanon would be up there with Turkey but they have those wackos Hezbollah destroying their beautiful country. I hope Hezbollah falls and Lebanon can go back to being a rare example of how govts should be in the Islamic world.

If Islam didn't control the countries with the majority of the people muslim, their economies would probably be double yet they are too busy making this and that illegal because it goes against Islam... give me a break.

Islamic countries had the stongest economies in the world till about the late 1700. Only after WW1, and division of Arabia have they become "poor". This is mainly due to trade embargoes and stupid governance. Notice only Saudi Arabia follows Islamic law. It is the richest. Iraq follows "democracy"

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Harvey
Investigated??? :roll: The facts have been documented for years. A.Q. Khan, the "father of Pakistani nuclear weapons program," stole nuclear technology from his employer in the Netherlands, and he admitted he sold nuclear materials and plans and hardware to build nuclear facilities to North Korea, Iran and Libya.

Those are countries not terrorists. Nuclear technology is not necassary bombs.

You live in some fantasy. When did you last visit planet Earth?

What's left to investigate? The fact that the Pakistani government has done nothing about him, publically, and everything they could to help him and has rewarded him handsomly behind the scenes is a strong indictment against Pakistan when it comes to believing anything they say about their "peaceful" intentions with nukes. The fact that Bin Laden is still roaming free on Pakistani soil doen't do much for their credibility with the rest of the world, either.

Since when is it a fact? Got any proof?

Did you bother to click the link I posted twice before? Didn't your mother warn you, if you didn't stop it, you'd go blind? :shocked:

Obviously I was referring to the fact that I bolded. Perhaps you maybe turning bling yourself.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Gamer X
Most of the Arab leaders are treasonous dictators. The Sunni vs Shiite matter is not the cause of this. All Arab people support Hezbullah.

you are so wrong

They hate Israel more than Hezbollah.

Enemy's enemy = freind.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I think it's barbaric how Western society expects its women to be scantily clad at all times in order to be considered "free". The degradation of Western women in porn and and rampant prostitution is further proof of Western barbarism against women. Not to mention abuse against women in the US is quite high.

Get over it. "Western society" doesn't "expect" its women to be scantily clad at all times, but women do have the freedom to select their own mode of dress, and we don't stone them to death if their choice of clothing offends some anal male religious nutcase of any belief who thinks he knows more about the will of his alleged deity than anyone else.

We have such religious morons, here, but even with Bushwhacko in the Whitehouse, they don't have that much control over our government... at least yet.

I can see that with so many cable channels freedly broadcasting nude women :disgust: what you promote is what people will learn. And clearly promoting scantily dressed women on Public TV is degrading women.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I think it's barbaric how Western society expects its women to be scantily clad at all times in order to be considered "free". The degradation of Western women in porn and and rampant prostitution is further proof of Western barbarism against women. Not to mention abuse against women in the US is quite high.

Get over it. "Western society" doesn't "expect" its women to be scantily clad at all times, but women do have the freedom to select their own mode of dress, and we don't stone them to death if their choice of clothing offends some anal male religious nutcase of any belief who thinks he knows more about the will of his alleged deity than anyone else.

We have such religious morons, here, but even with Bushwhacko in the Whitehouse, they don't have that much control over our government... at least yet.

I can see that with so many cable channels freedly broadcasting nude women :disgust: what you promote is what people will learn. And clearly promoting scantily dressed women on Public TV is degrading women.

It is interesting that the Muslim countries have a large market for Western Movies/shows and non-muslim pornography.

And there seems to be a market (in terms of bodies/servants/slavery) for the non-muslim races in some muslim dominated countries.

And some wealthy/middle class Muslims frequent the dens of Western indecency when in the non-Muslim couintries.

Apparently it is a listen to what we say, not do as we do situation.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Aimster
I love the U.S. ... well not so much with Bush .. but it is still 1,000,000x better than what Islamic countries have to offer.

Turkey isn't so bad, but they aren't run by Islamic fanatical wackos.

Islam has destroyed the Muslim countries.
Lebanon would be up there with Turkey but they have those wackos Hezbollah destroying their beautiful country. I hope Hezbollah falls and Lebanon can go back to being a rare example of how govts should be in the Islamic world.

If Islam didn't control the countries with the majority of the people muslim, their economies would probably be double yet they are too busy making this and that illegal because it goes against Islam... give me a break.

Islamic countries had the stongest economies in the world till about the late 1700. Only after WW1, and division of Arabia have they become "poor". This is mainly due to trade embargoes and stupid governance. Notice only Saudi Arabia follows Islamic law. It is the richest. Iraq follows "democracy"

SA is the "richest" because it has the most oil (yet the wealth is concentrated amongst "nobility" and islamonazis). Nice attempt at "cum hoc ergo propter hoc" (I love wikipedia).

Also funny that once the "age of reason" comes into being, islamic countries fall into ruin. There's my cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I think it's barbaric how Western society expects its women to be scantily clad at all times in order to be considered "free". The degradation of Western women in porn and and rampant prostitution is further proof of Western barbarism against women. Not to mention abuse against women in the US is quite high.

Get over it. "Western society" doesn't "expect" its women to be scantily clad at all times, but women do have the freedom to select their own mode of dress, and we don't stone them to death if their choice of clothing offends some anal male religious nutcase of any belief who thinks he knows more about the will of his alleged deity than anyone else.

We have such religious morons, here, but even with Bushwhacko in the Whitehouse, they don't have that much control over our government... at least yet.

I can see that with so many cable channels freedly broadcasting nude women :disgust: what you promote is what people will learn. And clearly promoting scantily dressed women on Public TV is degrading women.

If you don't want to see nude women, in this country, you have the right to change the channel or turn off your TV. You don't have the right to dictate what others view, and you have absolutely NO right to dictate to women what they choose to wear, or what they say, or where they go.

The most degrading thing to women is anal pricks wrapping themselves in religion and trying to dictate their beliefs about how women should behave, as if all women were supposed to be subservient to their male masters. Women don't need the permission of men to be who they choose to be for themselves. If that's what you want, you'll have to go back a few centuries to a much less enlightened time.

 

[magomago]

Also funny that once the "age of reason" comes into being, islamic countries fall into ruin. There's my cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

Religion or not, if you have oppressive dictatorships in place a country will never thrive. If a country systematically denies the right to education, the right to a free press, controls the internet under the guise of "decency" (ie: block anything related to critique of that said country's policies) and implements man draconian laws...the country will only wallow in a shallow cesspool of mediocrity.
The Middle East was left in poor ruin by the Turks who decimated the region over five hundred years. That takes a toll, especially when massive population decreases occur within the same period of time. Then the British and French went in and partitioned it up into little slices and pitted each side against each other. Dictators in every state ("King" or not) were set up, and maintained power with the continued support of outside forces, including the USA [and over time we played a bigger role leading up to our present influence in the region]. They were trained not in just the ability to govern, but taught the ability to oppress its population, torture, and exert near absolute control of them using the best tactics that we knew of.
Allow the policies that are stated in the first paragraph to propagate itself over fifty years and its clear and simple why the region is lagging behind: and it isn't religion.
Its clear why many Muslims try to leave the region and make a life elsewhere: their native country simply doesn't allow for it because of the oppressive government. If what you beleive is true, tell me why Islam "outside" of the Middle East is thriving
...if what you say is true, that it is indeed Islam that is at fault, wouldn't it have whithered away in "the land of reason" to put it in the manner in which you stated.