Ar15s replacing shotguns in police cruisers?

[RagingBITCH]

Yea, cause when your primary role in a Police Dept is doing high risk jobs such as hostage/barricaded subject/active shooter calls its perfectly acceptable to put yourself in MORE danger by not approaching in an armored vehicle...

If a dept has an APC its not out on patrol answering calls for service. Its used primarily for moving a SWAT team into a dangerous area.

How can you claim an armored vehicle for SWAT teams is a fetish?

And the point being, 99% of an officer's job doesn't involve that. Hell, raise the bar to 99.9%.

 

[AHamick]

So a video from 1988 of LAPD using an armored car as a battering ram makes any purchase of an armored car a fetish? I don't follow

Is LAPD, or any LE agency, still using a battering ram on their armored car?

Im not buying the whole "fetish" nonsense based on a 24 year old video. Unless you can make some valid point that SWAT teams aren't in any higher risk of being shot at than other Police...

 

[AznAnarchy99]

So a video from 1988 of LAPD using an armored car as a battering ram makes any purchase of an armored car a fetish? I don't follow

Is LAPD, or any LE agency, still using a battering ram on their armored car?

Im not buying the whole "fetish" nonsense based on a 24 year old video. Unless you can make some valid point that SWAT teams aren't in any higher risk of being shot at than other Police...

Im really trying to think of any situation that has happened where the police or SWAT has needed APCs.

The LAPD using an APC in house raids is pretty much a fetish IMO. I dont know if they still have any or if they are still using them.

Im all for assault rifles and military weapons for police but I draw the line at APCs and tanks.

 

[AHamick]

And the point being, 99% of an officer's job doesn't involve that. Hell, raise the bar to 99.9%.

No its not a common thing in a patrol setting, but it IS common for SWAT, so it is a perfectly sensible purchase for SWAT, hence why it is not a "fetish" as you put it

EDIT:

Im really trying to think of any situation that has happened where the police or SWAT has needed APCs.

The LAPD using an APC in house raids is pretty much a fetish IMO. I dont know if they still have any or if they are still using them.

Im all for assault rifles and military weapons for police but I draw the line at APCs and tanks.

Any time a SWAT team goes on a call of an active shooter, or a barricaded subject who is armed with a firearm is a situation that warrants an armored vehicle

So its ok for a patrol officer who may never even fire his pistol in the line of duty to carry a rifle but it is not ok for a SWAT team to deploy an armored vehicle when they constantly go on calls of armed violent individuals? please explain that logic

 

[ichy]

The same can be said for a pistol, stun gun, mace. 99% of a policeman's job can be done without any weapon. Traffic violations, arrest warrants, patrol, standing around for security purposes, doing paperwork, etc. I don't use my gun daily but I have one at home, for that just in case purpose.

Serving arrests warrants would sure as hell become more dangerous without a sidearm and pepper spray. Just because cops very rarely shoot their guns doesn't mean they don't use them. The day to day value of heavy weaponry is MUCH lower though.

 

[irishScott]

So its ok for a patrol officer who may never even fire his pistol in the line of duty to carry a rifle but it is not ok for a SWAT team to deploy an armored vehicle when they constantly go on calls of armed violent individuals? please explain that logic

The logic is that armored vehicles are scary and look military, therefore their use in police forces must mean officers are just trying to scare people and militarize. 🙄

 

[Nintendesert]

The logic is that armored vehicles are scary and look military, therefore their use in police forces must mean officers are just trying to scare people and militarize. 🙄

I really think SWAT needs them in order to fight other tanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vESIVemfG8


:sneaky:

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I really think SWAT needs them in order to fight other tanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vESIVemfG8


:sneaky:

LoL. I would think the tank would be a military issue.

According to live news coverage at the time, officials were seriously considering asking for help from the US Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton, in the form of a Cobra attack helicopter, as the police had nothing that could stop the tank. If this were true, a worst-case scenario might have ended with Nelson being killed by an AGM-114 Hellfire or TOW missile if he had not become stuck on the concrete divider.

That would of been a sight to behold on live TV.