Apple's photoshop of the Galaxy Tab to be 4:3

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SampSon

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This whole process, or lack thereof, is a farce. I find it hilarious that the temporary injunction was issued without a hearing or any opposition by samsung. Ex party or parte, whatever the proper word is.

It should be called "ex find the most ignorant parte body of law and file endless number of lawsuit per diem poop on your company"

When this lawsuit quietly became a non-patent suit in July the last shotglass of credibility Apple had was drank, by an alcoholic german judge that doesn't even know what an ipad or tampon is.

We are going to experience the fun new frontier of patent lawsuit warfare in the next few years. Seeing as how patent law has rules defined about as well as a grade school game of tag, this should be fun. One of my tenants is a corporate patent lawyer, she's having a ball.
 

akugami

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Apple doing something shady? Say it isn't so!!!

Sadly it looks like it's true. Worry not. Apple has companies like Samsung, known for their lying, stealing and cheating to keep them company.

Any way you cut it. That's just low Apple.
 

Red Storm

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Doesn't really matter if it's one picture or many, fudging with evidence is often a good way to lose a case.

I am all for competition (and everyone here should be as well, doesn't matter which company you love/hate), so I hope Samsung gets to launch their tablet in Europe.
 

YoungGun21

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Yep, but it's only one photo, and there are others that show details so it's really hard to tell.

One photo that they blatantly doctored to try to trick a court case in their favor.

Isn't knowingly showing false evidence illegal? Even if it is just one piece.
 

runawayprisoner

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One photo that they blatantly doctored to try to trick a court case in their favor.

Isn't knowingly showing false evidence illegal? Even if it is just one piece.

Well, if it was an "evidence" as stated, then it would be a big deal. However, it's only a complaint. There's a difference.

A complaint can be true or false, and the information provided in it can be entirely inaccurate. It's the duty of the one filing the claim to prove that the claim is true and valid before a final sentence is carried out based on how the judge looks at the proofs. Most claims only need to include written texts.

An evidence, on the other hand, is what supports a proof, and it won't be of any use until there is a specific proof that requires it during the trial.

That's how I understand it, so Apple is in no danger of being illegal. You'd think their team of professional lawyers would have caught it if it was a photo taking over half a page.
 

sm625

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Apple should be fined $500m for wasting the courts time. There is nothing original in an ipad anyway.
 

WelshBloke

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Apple should be fined $500m for wasting the courts time. There is nothing original in an ipad anyway.

I'd imagine that Samsung could sue if they felt that they had great loses, but really this is not a big deal. I very much doubt that apple did this on purpose, someone just done goofed!
 

cheezy321

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One photo that they blatantly doctored to try to trick a court case in their favor.

Isn't knowingly showing false evidence illegal? Even if it is just one piece.

Yes it was so blatantly doctored that they doctored the other photos too! Of course evil apple is doctoring all their photos to paint their case in a more positive light!

Oh wait, they didnt?

Put down the pitchfork son. People like you will find any minute detail and just blow it up like its the biggest deal ever. See: Antennagate
 

s44

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I very much doubt that apple did this on purpose, someone just done goofed!
If you knew anything about a law office worked, you'd realize this is totally implausible.

This was intentional on *someone*'s part. You don't "accidentally" Photoshop stuff like this.
 

akugami

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I'd imagine that Samsung could sue if they felt that they had great loses, but really this is not a big deal. I very much doubt that apple did this on purpose, someone just done goofed!

Maybe not someone at Apple directly but you bet your ass someone in the law firm had a hand in it. As a lawyer, it's your job to present accurate data and evidence to the court. If you screw up, that can count heavily against you. Either the law firm Apple hired is negligent and incompetent or someone at the law firm, if not Apple itself, knew about it.
 

runawayprisoner

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Maybe not someone at Apple directly but you bet your ass someone in the law firm had a hand in it. As a lawyer, it's your job to present accurate data and evidence to the court. If you screw up, that can count heavily against you. Either the law firm Apple hired is negligent and incompetent or someone at the law firm, if not Apple itself, knew about it.

Well, or it could be that it's actually not an "evidence"...
 

Mopetar

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If you knew anything about a law office worked, you'd realize this is totally implausible.

This was intentional on *someone*'s part. You don't "accidentally" Photoshop stuff like this.

Hanlon's razor makes me think otherwise.

People make mistakes. Law offices employ people. Ergo, law offices will occasionally make mistakes.

There are probably a few misspellings in the document as well. I don't see anyone jumping on them for that. Not everything is an evil plot.
 

cheezy321

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Hanlon's razor makes me think otherwise.

People make mistakes. Law offices employ people. Ergo, law offices will occasionally make mistakes.

There are probably a few misspellings in the document as well. I don't see anyone jumping on them for that. Not everything is an evil plot.

When it comes to phandroids and anything apple related, it is always an evil plot, mostly done by steve jobs personally.

Warning for trolling for this post and the one by Cheezy above it. Cheezy, please take it down a notch or two.

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WelshBloke

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If you knew anything about a law office worked, you'd realize this is totally implausible.

This was intentional on *someone*'s part. You don't "accidentally" Photoshop stuff like this.

Most of the people I know that work as lawyers wouldn't know what photoshop is never mind how to use it.
 

gsaldivar

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When it comes to phandroids and anything apple related, it is always an evil plot, mostly done by steve jobs personally.

An evil plot? Probably not.

But, Apple does has a history of doctoring up images to create a fictionalized perception of their products...


 

vshah

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i agree that it could have been something as innocent as some dumb intern at the law firm pasting 2 images in to ms word and resizing them to be the same size, without really thinking of the implications.
 

YoungGun21

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Yes it was so blatantly doctored that they doctored the other photos too! Of course evil apple is doctoring all their photos to paint their case in a more positive light!

Oh wait, they didnt?

Put down the pitchfork son. People like you will find any minute detail and just blow it up like its the biggest deal ever. See: Antennagate

Oh I'm sorry, when did I say that?

Oh wait, I didn't?

Grow up.

They made the picture didn't they? They resized it and drew lines and everything. This is in a formal legal document. They knew what they were doing. I'd call that pretty blatant. I don't get what you are trying to latch onto here, but you really have nothing to hold your ground.

Oh and grow up.
 

gsaldivar

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i agree that it could have been something as innocent as some dumb intern at the law firm pasting 2 images in to ms word and resizing them to be the same size, without really thinking of the implications.

Wasn't the Samsung logo also removed?
 

s44

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Wasn't the Samsung logo also removed?
Yup. And it wasn't "simple resizing" -- it looks like the icons aren't stretched, but the borders around them are expanded instead.

There's no innocent explanation for this.
 
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Yup. And it wasn't "simple resizing" -- it looks like the icons aren't stretched, but the borders around them are expanded instead.

There's no innocent explanation for this.

Plain and simple, Apple or their lawyers doctored the photo because without it they didn't stand a chance.
Or was it a plot by a "phandroid" at the Law firm?
 

BenSkywalker

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Or was it a plot by a "phandroid" at the Law firm?

I'm honestly not sure on European laws, but in the US whoever did it could be facing criminal charges for perjury. It may be a non factor in Europe, I would assume it is a much lesser offense there or they wouldn't have tried it.
 

hanoverphist

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Most of the people I know that work as lawyers wouldn't know what photoshop is never mind how to use it.

my boss (the VP) doesnt know how to use photoshop, pagemaker, any of the programming or graphics and communications software i use, but it doesnt really stop him from asking me to do things... :hmm: