Apple should be fined for still using proprietary port

[BUTCH1]

I think you should be fined by the govt for being posting such a crappy rant. You do realize that you sound like an uninformed child who just wants attention right?

You forgot WRONG FORUM....

 

[zinfamous]

Incorporating a USB 3.0 mini B connector would compromise the design of smaller devices like the iPhone 5/5s/5c...not to mention iPod nano and others. The speakers and microphone would have to be moved to a less optimal position. I don't think anyone would dispute that.


Though I've seen people dispute that microUSB is fragile, I've personally experienced multiple failed microUSB connectors. One example: My expensive Plantronics Voyager headset. Despite using great caution, the female connector in the headset pulls out along with the cable (detached from the PCB inside). I've got several other devices where the connection is loose...even though I've treated them with great care to reduce wear and try to avoid this happening.


After more than a year of use, I can say the Lightning connector on my iPhone 5 is still tight and sturdy. I probably connect and disconnect 3x more than most owners would (over and over at work, in the car, and at home). I'm actually amazed that it still clicks in and doesn't wiggle.

Bah, never mind...I actually read your post, now

 

[Rakehellion]

"Standard" connectors.

I keep one of each type of USB cable in my computer bag for all the devices that use them, as well as the new and old iPhone cables just in case someone has a 4S.


If you don't own an iPhone, why the fuck do you care about the type of connectors that you're not going to need, you damned crybaby?

 

[Dumac]

'Lightning' (what a dumb name) connected are arguably superior. I like that they are reversible and feel reliable. However, the fact that they are proprietary makes them a bane in the technological world.

Nobody else can benefit from 'Lightning' except Apple customers. Hell, if the benefits were folded into a standard port it would probably break some sort of stupid patent Apple has.

If you have two kinds of devices, you need to buy two different cables now. That hurts the consumer. Not to mention 'Lightning' cables, being proprietary, are ridiculously overpriced.

Propriety tech likes this is just a blatant moneygrab and an attempt to shoehorn others out of the business. Dim Apple users get mad at Samsung or Google for not working with their lightning plug, as referenced by a user in this thread. Proprietary tech is just as bad when it comes from Apple as when it comes from Microsoft (proprietary hard drives/wireless adapter for the 360) or anybody else.

 

[olds]

The easiest solution is to vote with your wallet.

I wish. Work is taking our blackberries and giving us iphones.

 

[KeithTalent]

I wish. Work is taking our blackberries and giving us iphones.

They did this at my work, but then a bunch of people revolted and now Blackberries and certain Android phones are available.

KT

 

[Rakehellion]

Nobody else can benefit from 'Lightning' except Apple customers.

No shit, Sherlock. And no one can benefit from USB but computer users. The outrage!

 

[Ichinisan]

... Apple users get mad at Samsung or Google for not working with their lightning plug, as referenced by a user in this thread. ...

who!? I don't think anyone would expect Samsung or Google to adopt Apple's proprietary standard.

Yes. Apple's Lightning connector is proprietary.

Yes. Being proprietary has some disadvantages (price and compatibility).

Despite that, Lightning is pretty cool and I like it a lot. I currently own 4 devices that use it and I have zero usability complaints.

 

[sdifox]

seems im wrong but i thought it had to do with the number of programmable pins not the speed

That doesn't make much sense either, but who cares. We are here to laugh at the op.

 

[Dumac]

No shit, Sherlock. And no one can benefit from USB but computer users. The outrage!

That ranks as one of the dumbest analogies I have seen on this forum.

A wider variety of devices and accessories not limited to any particular vendor or brand use USB.

who!? I don't think anyone would expect Samsung or Google to adopt Apple's proprietary standard.

See:

I'm the asshole in my house, because my stupid Galaxy charger has to be on hand. She asks my why my phone cant use the same cord as her iPad, Iphone, and iPod.

Yes. Apple's Lightning connector is proprietary.

Yes. Being proprietary has some disadvantages (price and compatibility).

Despite that, Lightning is pretty cool and I like it a lot. I currently own 4 devices that use it and I have zero usability complaints.

Thats great that you have 4 devices that use the cable (big apple fan eh?), but I have a plethora devices that use microUSB compared to a miniscule amount of devices that use the 'Lightning' connector. Rather than having different charge cables at different locations, I have to lug around the lightning charge cable or buy multiple extremely overpriced cables.

Sure, it is usable and carries some improvements. But the perception of progress is a lie - it is holding back the device world at large.

Imagine if every company did what apple did and used a proprietary port. It would be a nightmare! Apple is a selfish company that gets a pass just because they are the only one abusing the commons. Not to mention, if any company did introduce a proprietary cable Apple would probably sue them if it was anything like the 'Lightning' connector. The entire thing is a scheme to impede competition and make $$$ doing it.

It is the principle of the matter. In terms of principles, Apple is just a shitty company. But if you want to bury your head in the sand and continue to buy their product, by all means do so. It is your right.

 

[tommo123]

No shit, Sherlock. And no one can benefit from USB but computer users. The outrage!

computers, tablets, phones, smart TVs etc etc etc

 

[lxskllr]

computers, tablets, phones, smart TVs etc etc etc

Or even homemade devices. An open standard can be used by anyone.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Proprietary everything is the main reason I don't use any Apple products.

 

[Mixolydian]

Proprietary everything is the main reason I don't use any Apple products.

funny, thats the main reason I use Apple products.

 

[ch33zw1z]

funny, thats the main reason I use Apple products.

not really "funny". people look for different things. There's positives and negatives to a proprietary system, just like an open system.

 

[HeXen]

I think apple's ports are a lot easier to plug into than the mini/micro..etc usb. I have to look more closely at those to make sure I have it flipped right and then it still has to be near perfectly straight.
Sometimes I grab the wrong size small usb wire too, the apple everything is at a glance and it seems to take angles a little better when plugging in. I don't see the big deal because if you want a cheap wire, China makes tons of Apple charging wires and adapters.

 

[wholesalestunna]

I think apple's ports are a lot easier to plug into than the mini/micro..etc usb. I have to look more closely at those to make sure I have it flipped right and then it still has to be near perfectly straight.
Sometimes I grab the wrong size small usb wire too, the apple everything is at a glance and it seems to take angles a little better when plugging in. I don't see the big deal because if you want a cheap wire, China makes tons of Apple charging wires and adapters.

I agree. I like it a lot, and it's easier to plug in while in the dark because it can go in either way. The only negative is that it's a unique cable so there's not always one lying around when you need one like micro and mini usb.

 

[Red Squirrel]

What I'd like to see is induction based charging as an extra way to charge it (don't replace the plugin port). Place the phone on a surface that has a coil and it charges through induction. I guess it's hard to make something like this without it interfering with the electronics such as the antenna. I've actually heard of it being worked on and I could have sworn the Nexus 4 was suppose to have it, but I have yet to see such tech available to public and my Nexus 4 has nothing like this.

 

[sdifox]

What I'd like to see is induction based charging as an extra way to charge it (don't replace the plugin port). Place the phone on a surface that has a coil and it charges through induction. I guess it's hard to make something like this without it interfering with the electronics such as the antenna. I've actually heard of it being worked on and I could have sworn the Nexus 4 was suppose to have it, but I have yet to see such tech available to public and my Nexus 4 has nothing like this.

induction charging is inefficient. Lumia 920 had it.

 

[wholesalestunna]

What I'd like to see is induction based charging as an extra way to charge it (don't replace the plugin port). Place the phone on a surface that has a coil and it charges through induction. I guess it's hard to make something like this without it interfering with the electronics such as the antenna. I've actually heard of it being worked on and I could have sworn the Nexus 4 was suppose to have it, but I have yet to see such tech available to public and my Nexus 4 has nothing like this.

I feel like I read something that said the Nexus 4 would have that... Or maybe the Galaxy S4?

 

[HeXen]

What I'd like to see is induction based charging as an extra way to charge it (don't replace the plugin port). Place the phone on a surface that has a coil and it charges through induction. I guess it's hard to make something like this without it interfering with the electronics such as the antenna. I've actually heard of it being worked on and I could have sworn the Nexus 4 was suppose to have it, but I have yet to see such tech available to public and my Nexus 4 has nothing like this.

I thought they already had pads like that for sale? I could have sworn I saw an induction charging surface displayed somewhere.

 

[wholesalestunna]

I thought they already had pads like that for sale? I could have sworn I saw an induction charging surface displayed somewhere.

They made a pad and had it at wal-mart... You had to buy the charging pad though and then cases for all of your device that had the thing on the back for the power to pass through. VERY expensive too.

 

[wholesalestunna]

Here's an example of one... Not the one I was talking about originally but the same concept: Duracell Power Mat

 

[sdifox]

Here's an example of one... Not the one I was talking about originally but the same concept: Duracell Power Mat

you still need to get the charging case for your device from Duracell. It just has a stupid coil to catch the induction but you will pay through your nose for it.

http://www.duracellpowermat.com/wireless-power-cases/iphone5.html

 

[Red Squirrel]

Here's an example of one... Not the one I was talking about originally but the same concept: Duracell Power Mat

Hmmm so they do exist, but it's not part of the phone and you have to buy it separately? Kinda fail but good to know it's out there.

Efficiency is not that important as if you put it on the nightstand and leave the phone there overnight it should be fully charged by morning I would imagine, while keeping the phone easily available to reach over at when tired if you get a call or something.