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marketsons1985
Platinum Member
You could also go with Clearanced items from the apple store. That way you get a brand new item, not refurbed. The 15.4" MBP is only $1399 so $50 more than the refurb.
mchammer187
Diamond Member
1440x900 and no matte screen make it no dice for me
i have a 17" santa rosa MBP from last ocober though so i'm in no rush
only thing i wish i had was multi touch
i have a 17" santa rosa MBP from last ocober though so i'm in no rush
only thing i wish i had was multi touch
Suspicious-Teach8788
Lifer
As a current Penryn MBP owner, my complaints for the new MBPs are:
1) No Matte option. Not as bad as some whiners make it sound like on macrumors forums. Get a glare protector.
2) The new look is ok, more iPhone looking, but not revolutionary to me. It's not dead sexy from the slides they show but it looks dead sexy on the Apple site (of course those are marketing pics that make it look awesome).
3) Battery life is down. 4 hours on 9600 vs 5 hrs on 8600. Battery went from 60whr to 50whr, and while Montevina will save some power, it's clearly a loss in battery life. Telling me that I can now use the 9400 doesn't say much. If anything, we should expect battery life to increase when you compare apples to apples like using a 9600 vs the old 8600 full time. But I guess shrinking things required shrinking the battery. No one's really complained but I'm sure real world tests won't be too generous if you need the 9600. MBPs only do so well in power because they use speed step AGGRESSIVELY compared to PCs. You expect your 60whr Thinkpad battery to do that well? Hell no. I'd rather have a better battery than to use tricks up the sleeve to make the laptop look like it lasts long.
4) Pricing. Education pricing is ghetto now. $1899 for a MBP? No $200 discount anymore? Apple, your stuff is expensive enough. They're great products, but pricing is horrendous. I remember customizing a Dell XPS1530 the week after I got my MBP. It was like 1200 or something for specs at or above the level of my MBP. Who cares. Stupid impulsive buyers like me will still fall for them.
Overall it's what I expected, not a major overhaul. More of an internal design overhaul that might make assembly for them easier and streamlined manufacturing. As a manufacturing engineer, I suppose more of the change was an internal thing, making it easier to upgrade through the years especially when Nehalem requires an architecture overhaul.
People expected quad cores, huge speed increases, BD, blah blah but like I said it doesn't make marketing sense for something totally new in 6 months especially when Nehalem is the bigger change in the future. This sets things in stone so they CAN put in BD one day or upgrade the resolution, blah blah blah while retaining the same manufacturing and design layout.
1) No Matte option. Not as bad as some whiners make it sound like on macrumors forums. Get a glare protector.
2) The new look is ok, more iPhone looking, but not revolutionary to me. It's not dead sexy from the slides they show but it looks dead sexy on the Apple site (of course those are marketing pics that make it look awesome).
3) Battery life is down. 4 hours on 9600 vs 5 hrs on 8600. Battery went from 60whr to 50whr, and while Montevina will save some power, it's clearly a loss in battery life. Telling me that I can now use the 9400 doesn't say much. If anything, we should expect battery life to increase when you compare apples to apples like using a 9600 vs the old 8600 full time. But I guess shrinking things required shrinking the battery. No one's really complained but I'm sure real world tests won't be too generous if you need the 9600. MBPs only do so well in power because they use speed step AGGRESSIVELY compared to PCs. You expect your 60whr Thinkpad battery to do that well? Hell no. I'd rather have a better battery than to use tricks up the sleeve to make the laptop look like it lasts long.
4) Pricing. Education pricing is ghetto now. $1899 for a MBP? No $200 discount anymore? Apple, your stuff is expensive enough. They're great products, but pricing is horrendous. I remember customizing a Dell XPS1530 the week after I got my MBP. It was like 1200 or something for specs at or above the level of my MBP. Who cares. Stupid impulsive buyers like me will still fall for them.
Overall it's what I expected, not a major overhaul. More of an internal design overhaul that might make assembly for them easier and streamlined manufacturing. As a manufacturing engineer, I suppose more of the change was an internal thing, making it easier to upgrade through the years especially when Nehalem requires an architecture overhaul.
People expected quad cores, huge speed increases, BD, blah blah but like I said it doesn't make marketing sense for something totally new in 6 months especially when Nehalem is the bigger change in the future. This sets things in stone so they CAN put in BD one day or upgrade the resolution, blah blah blah while retaining the same manufacturing and design layout.
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
They definitely should have added FW800 to the 13" Macbooks - it's small and people would use it. USB 2.0 isn't a good replacement for those of us with FW Camcorders, Hard Drives, and other devices. I love the 13", but I'm not going to upgrade all of my equipment so that I can get poorer performance on USB 2.0. I know that Flash-based Camcorders are the "wave of the future", but for those of us with equipment with FW ports, it's not so great. I can understand it being a product transition, but I don't see USB 3.0 or WUSB on here, so what's the deal? I was all set to get a 13", but now I'll have to shell out double for the 15" just to get FW. Arggg...
And still no word on the Mac Mini!
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Haha, you have to Log out to switch graphics modes in the Macbook Pro:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...switch-graphics-modes/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...switch-graphics-modes/
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Okay, I'm a huge fan of the glossy screens, but holy cow:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...-super-shiny-hands-on/
That's SUPER reflective :Q I wonder how many professionals will be dumping Apple laptops and monitors due to the glare...that looks ridiculous! Hope it's not that bad in real life, and that moving the angle actually helps...my 13" White Macbook has a glossy screen and is fine most of the time...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/1...-super-shiny-hands-on/
That's SUPER reflective :Q I wonder how many professionals will be dumping Apple laptops and monitors due to the glare...that looks ridiculous! Hope it's not that bad in real life, and that moving the angle actually helps...my 13" White Macbook has a glossy screen and is fine most of the time...
When i was first looking at getting my current MacBook, the Sony TZ (I think it was the TZ) was just coming out. That was the one with the onboard intel and the 7300 graphics, with a switch to cycle between the two. I think for that one it was the same way (it may even have been a full restart). It might be possible that down the road Apple will release an update for OS X that will allow the system to cycle between the two with just a few seconds downtime, but as it stands right now, having to log out is that big of a chore.
IHAVEAQUESTION
Golden Member
Has anyone have trouble watching the keynote on apple.com? It shows 404 not found for me. Weird.
IHAVEAQUESTION
Golden Member
It's weird. It shows the page for a second then quickly turns to 404 not found.
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