Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: akugami
I guess it's impossible to mate an ATI (or nVidia) mobile GPU with an Intel CPU and motherboard chipsets. Oh wait...this happens all the time.
Not since AMD bought them.
Please go look under the mobile tab of the Anandtech.com web site. New laptops with Intel motherboard chipsets and AMD GPU's.
Not to mention in my previous post one of the reasons why I thought it was likely Apple would switch is because they would get a better deal due to ATI's weaker bargaining position, which you also failed to note when taking my quote out of context.
ATI also has weaker products, not to mention they have less resources to bargain with.
It's doubtful you will
ever see an ATI chipset in a Mac.
Ever. Since Apple got in bed with Intel and AMD bought ATI that pipe dream turned into a nightmare.
Like I said even Microsoft has come running back to NVIDIA for chips. Dell and Apple have announced new products with NVIDIA chipsets. All facts. What facts do you have?
I am unsure of whether AMD (or the ATI arm of AMD) still has a license to produce Intel chipsets but quite frankly it doesn't matter in what I was discussing since I was talking about an Intel CPU coupled with an Intel motherboard chipset which is then using an AMD or nVidia chipset. At least if you were reading my words carefully you would see that was what I was talking about. But please, keep twisting my words around.
ATI does not have weaker products. At least not in all areas. Different. Stronger in certain areas and weaker in others definitely but one can't conclusively say ATI has weak products. They do have their strengths whether you are willing to acknowledge them or not. I mean, how the heck can you call ATI's products weak when it is a fact that their GPU's caused a massive price drop of nVidia's GPU's and contributed in no small part to nVidia's weak quarterly results.
MS running back to nVidia? Doubtful. It's called business. This is a fact of business. Businesses have disagreements and yet still collaborate on other projects at the same time as long as both companies feel it is beneficial to them. I wrote that in a previous post in this thread. The very one you were replying to in fact. I didn't name MS and nVidia because I was not thinking of them at the time but what I wrote applies equally to them as well as to other companies. That's why I listed Company A and Company B. As for MS
running back to nvidia, you can bet your rear end that terms are much much much more favorable for MS than what was in the contract when MS was using nVidia chips for the first Xbox.
In recent times we have Sony and Toshiba embroiled in a law suite and yet in other areas they are forming partnerships. So one last time.
FOR THE LAST TIME, I ALREADY STATED THAT COMPANIES CAN DISAGREE AND YET STILL COLLABORATE BEFORE YOU ATTEMPTED TO TAKE MY WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT TO PROVE ME WRONG BY RESTATING WHAT I WROTE BUT AS APPLIED TO THE SITUATION BETWEEN MICROSOFT AND NVIDIA. INSTEAD OF TAKING WHAT I WROTE OUT OF CONTEXT TO PROVE ME WRONG, COME WITH A VALID ARGUMENT. I really don't know how else to address that.
We won't even get into your history of using facts or the lack thereof.
For the record, I find nVidia's Tegra to be an intriguing product. An ultra low power, but powerful, GPU seems perfect for netbooks and portable media players. I'm not surprised that MS is using it for the Zune 2.0. What I am surprised at is that there hasn't been more announcements of it being used in netbooks.
Last post in response to you in this thread Wreckage. I don't feel like repeating what I've written over and over when all you've done is basically taken my words, twisted it around, then restated what I wrote to try to prove me wrong.
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