Apple cuts iPhone 5 screen orders by 50%

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ChAoTiCpInOy

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Can't. http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/01/...rumors-of-iphone-5-cuts-even-if-it-wanted-to/

Let's just wait until they announce their quarterly earnings on the 23rd.

There were some people speculating that this was about manipulating the value of Apple's stock, which would be a lot easier to do if the company were unable to disclose any information related to a rumor.

If Apple ends up having a good quarter the stock price could jump up following the earnings announcement. In that case it would be beneficial if someone were able to drive the price down before the announcement in order to maximize any profit when they sell after the announcement.

Apparently the SEC is investigating into that possibility.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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There were some people speculating that this was about manipulating the value of Apple's stock, which would be a lot easier to do if the company were unable to disclose any information related to a rumor.

If Apple ends up having a good quarter the stock price could jump up following the earnings announcement. In that case it would be beneficial if someone were able to drive the price down before the announcement in order to maximize any profit when they sell after the announcement.

Apparently the SEC is investigating into that possibility.

Seriously. I hope the SEC really clamps down on this. The majority of the people who are releasing this information are analysts and are either profiting from it or are working for the people who are profiting from it.
 

lothar

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Can't. http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/01/...rumors-of-iphone-5-cuts-even-if-it-wanted-to/

Let's just wait until they announce their quarterly earnings on the 23rd.
The source he cited contain quite a number of exceptions to the "quiet period" rule.
You mean as smart as Apple's lawyers are, they can't figure out these SEC exceptions and prevent their stock from tanking due to baseless speculations?

When the rumor about RIMM losing subscriber count came out which tanked their stock to the $6 range, they refuted it immediately and since then their stock has been on a tear.

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ControlD

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The source he cited contain quite a number of exceptions to the "quiet period" rule.
You mean as smart as Apple's lawyers are, they can't figure out these SEC exceptions and prevent their stock from tanking due to baseless speculations?

Why do you assume that a temporary decline in the stock price is a bad thing for Apple? They are sitting on a ton of cash reserves right now, and a chance to buy back some of their stock at a (relative) bargain price is probably a good thing for them business wise. Losing the #1 market cap ranking means nothing to them except bragging rights.
 

lothar

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There were some people speculating that this was about manipulating the value of Apple's stock, which would be a lot easier to do if the company were unable to disclose any information related to a rumor.

If Apple ends up having a good quarter the stock price could jump up following the earnings announcement. In that case it would be beneficial if someone were able to drive the price down before the announcement in order to maximize any profit when they sell after the announcement.

Apparently the SEC is investigating into that possibility.
This would be interesting how the SEC would pursue this and reach a conclusion.
This information was probably leaked by someone at Sharp or Japan Display, neither of which are US securities or registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission(at least I know Japan Display is not) to a Japanese analyst(that probably works for a private Japanese investment bank or financial firm), who then leaked it to the Nikkei newspaper(the equivalent of the WSJ in Japan and Financial Times in the UK), which the WSJ then published and cited in their report.

Once it's released in a newspaper(Nikkei and WSJ), it should now be considered "public" information since almost everyone now knows about it.
But I'm not quite sure how the SEC would look between supply chains and prior to the Nikkei newspaper publication.

Now if there's anyone that sold their stock prior to this negative release, they definitely should be investigated further.
But people who bought Apple stock after this negative news and plan to sell after their earnings report? That would be interesting to prove given most analysts have been reducing both Apple's stock price targets and earnings estimates. Apparently, these "few" people are bullish while majority of other analysts are either becoming more neutral or becoming bearish.

This would be equivalent to a hedge fund shorting a stock, announcing it to the world publicly a week later that they are which tanks the stock, then buys to cover their short immediately after the company stock tanks and earns a profit.
Is such a thing illegal?
 

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