I think no one realized that M$ shows the 13" MBP and then says "This Mac costs $2000."
1) The 15.4" MBP is no longer $2000
2) The 13" was never 2k to begin with and what 1199? $1499 for the upper end one?
The MBP I got was a ripoff in June 08.
$1999 base price with the $200 student discount. $200 for 4gb ram upgrade was a total rip, but it brought me back to $2000. Throw in the iPod which gets a rebate, I suppose you could argue my MBP came for $1700. I also got Apple Care which is BEYOND a RIPOFF. $269 I think? For a similar price you can probably get Dell 4 year accidental coverage where I can drop my laptop and get a whole new one.
Well whatever right?
MBP is sexy. It's a nice 15.4" form factor. When I game I still game on my PC. I can game on my MBP using boot camp but come on. 90% of my work like word processing, email, IM, ATOT, twitter, facebook can be done on my MBP. I can do some Photoshop too and webpage coding although it's not really the Mac itself that turns me off from it but rather the fact that I don't have a 27" LCD hooked up to my MBP and the keyboard. I'd rather do it on a desktop.
If you're one of those idiots who buy Apple products cuz it's SOOOO COOOL ZOMG then you deserve to be bashed, but honestly there's nothing wrong with running OS X. Especially when you have a solid PC to back it up (and an older laptop too on Windows).
I use OSX 99.9% of the time on my Mac. I go into Windows only to sync my Nokia N-Series only. Sometimes some Office 2k7 files don't read well on Mac Office 2k8 and maybe I'll pop into Windows.
Bottom line is my MBP was not worth whatever exorbitant price I got it for. I customized a Dell 15.4" XPS right after for $1300 from Slickdeals with features that surpassed my MBP unfortunately. But 5.4 lbs on a 15.4" laptop? With 5 hour battery life? Yes I know OSX uses some insane speed stepping and Vista/XP battery life is really terrible because it's only a 60 WHr battery but for OS X to achieve 5 hours is still VERY impressive.
I can't get that from any other laptop. So yeah I had the money. I dumped it on an Apple. Is it unique? Yeah. Is it worth the price? Probably not when you compare to other laptops, but you need to realize nothing else can really match it in such a form factor. This was why I argued for iPods over Zunes, Zens, Dell DJs, etc because there's no other MP3 player that just did it better on such a similar form factor. No MP3 player was as small or easy to use (come on click wheel > anything)
Back on topic: I think it's not as lame as Apple begging for MS as Dailytech says. It's somewhere in between the lines. Apple doesn't like false advertising and instead of whining to the FCC they ask MS if they could remove it or update their ads. After all M$ hasn't been airing that ad recently in these post WWDC days.
1) The 15.4" MBP is no longer $2000
2) The 13" was never 2k to begin with and what 1199? $1499 for the upper end one?
The MBP I got was a ripoff in June 08.
$1999 base price with the $200 student discount. $200 for 4gb ram upgrade was a total rip, but it brought me back to $2000. Throw in the iPod which gets a rebate, I suppose you could argue my MBP came for $1700. I also got Apple Care which is BEYOND a RIPOFF. $269 I think? For a similar price you can probably get Dell 4 year accidental coverage where I can drop my laptop and get a whole new one.
Well whatever right?
MBP is sexy. It's a nice 15.4" form factor. When I game I still game on my PC. I can game on my MBP using boot camp but come on. 90% of my work like word processing, email, IM, ATOT, twitter, facebook can be done on my MBP. I can do some Photoshop too and webpage coding although it's not really the Mac itself that turns me off from it but rather the fact that I don't have a 27" LCD hooked up to my MBP and the keyboard. I'd rather do it on a desktop.
If you're one of those idiots who buy Apple products cuz it's SOOOO COOOL ZOMG then you deserve to be bashed, but honestly there's nothing wrong with running OS X. Especially when you have a solid PC to back it up (and an older laptop too on Windows).
I use OSX 99.9% of the time on my Mac. I go into Windows only to sync my Nokia N-Series only. Sometimes some Office 2k7 files don't read well on Mac Office 2k8 and maybe I'll pop into Windows.
Bottom line is my MBP was not worth whatever exorbitant price I got it for. I customized a Dell 15.4" XPS right after for $1300 from Slickdeals with features that surpassed my MBP unfortunately. But 5.4 lbs on a 15.4" laptop? With 5 hour battery life? Yes I know OSX uses some insane speed stepping and Vista/XP battery life is really terrible because it's only a 60 WHr battery but for OS X to achieve 5 hours is still VERY impressive.
I can't get that from any other laptop. So yeah I had the money. I dumped it on an Apple. Is it unique? Yeah. Is it worth the price? Probably not when you compare to other laptops, but you need to realize nothing else can really match it in such a form factor. This was why I argued for iPods over Zunes, Zens, Dell DJs, etc because there's no other MP3 player that just did it better on such a similar form factor. No MP3 player was as small or easy to use (come on click wheel > anything)
Back on topic: I think it's not as lame as Apple begging for MS as Dailytech says. It's somewhere in between the lines. Apple doesn't like false advertising and instead of whining to the FCC they ask MS if they could remove it or update their ads. After all M$ hasn't been airing that ad recently in these post WWDC days.
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