Another Apple launch and another lot of overexcitement,now saying:
1.)Microsoft consoles are doomed
2.)Nintendo is doomed
3.)Intel is doomed
4.)Nvidia is doomed
5.)AMD is doomed
6.)HI silicon is doomed
7.)Media tek is doomed
That was on the first page of this thread. I didn't think this was Macrumours,maybe I was wrong.
So I expect all of you will be ditching your Intel and AMD CPUs now,plus your dGPUs,consoles,etc and Anandtech will soon become an Apple only phone/tablet only forum??
If you listen to the usual cast of characters,as the price goes up they shout louder and louder on forums,and then close ranks as much as possible. Its literally a handfull of the same posters who keep saying every tech company outside Apple is doomed,and then present the most positive technical reasons why Apple will destroy everyone else,whereas every other company is full of idiots and won't be able to fight them in anyway.This is a classic reality distortion sphere.
Yet despite all the doomage,Apple sales are slowing down and flatlining,only compensated by them increasing prices at each generation to compensate. So as the price increases so does the justification for why it is worth it.
It was the same with the core count arguments - people were talking about Apple totally replacing Intel and AMD in all markets,ie,the high core count Xeons,etc and about the massive discrepancy in process nodes,ie,7NM against 12NM/14NM.
So apparently AMD and Intel should not bother,as the "experts" here have said Apple making a 4+4 core SOC(which other companies have done on a lower level),means Epyc,etc is instantly pointless and the Perlmutter supercomputer and the other projects,should switch to Apple.
The tech press is hyping up Apple products,basically as a form of advertising and you are just all reading into it,since Apple launches make more ad revenue.
Damn, someone's got some sour grapes.
Those GB4 numbers are turning heads. Personally I don't like GB4, especially since it supposedly allows for the CPU to "cool off" between bench elements to avoid throttling. Which is why I would love to see something like PovRay or Blender compiled for iOS and run on the chip instead, just to get an idea of what would happen when the A12x is forced to run a sustained load for more than a few seconds.
Taking a step back, though, we still have to realize that:
Apple won't (currently) sell this chip to anyone outside of tablet buyers
Apple won't ship this chip with anything more than 4 GB of RAM (bleh)
Apple apparently has no interest in the server market at all, and very little interest in the workstation market. Incidentally, Intel makes most of their money in the server market, and AMD is looking to chew up a lot of that market.
Apple is a $1 trillion+ company that could potentially stomp flat any CPU market they wanted with 2-3 years of dev effort built on expanding the scope of the A12x (or a successor). That is a ton of performance/watt - probably. The question is a matter of whether or not they will bother. Apple is having a lot of fun making a ton of money selling platforms and services, not moving in on other markets. If they wanted to, they could leverage their ability to produce entire platforms to roll out laptops; desktops; and even servers based on some modified A-series CPUs with expanded RAM and I/O. They have the developer community, they have the internal resources, they have the power. It's just a matter of having the will. If Apple keeps pushing forward with technological process, the software will follow. You can't deny it, and neither can I.
For the time being, I can't/won't toss my 1800x for an iPad Pro because it doesn't run the software that I want it to run. I also hate the closed nature of iOS. It can't work as my daily driver. It won't. And for that reason I'm going to continue to buy AMD products for the time being, and continue running Win10 so long as MS survives. It will take Apple killing the x86 development community for me to switch to anything else. Hopefully, by that point, there will be ways to circumvent the Apple bootloader locks and put something like Linux on whatever A-series chip finally puts the nail in the x86 coffin - or I'll have to look at some competing design from Huwaei or (preferably) Qualcomm.
As for your list of who is or isn't doomed, I have no idea how you came to those conclusions. Only Intel and AMD are really threatened by Apple - the rest, not so much. Apple may actually blaze a trail for Qualcomm, Mediatek, Huawei, and anyone else following in their wake. They're all a part of the ARMy. Nintendo is already technically using an ARM design (er, sort of), and MS can follow suit if they so choose. MS makes sense since they're now in bed with Qualcomm.