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Applausing during graduation..

Casawi

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OK I was listening to the radio and they were talking about a certain high school issue, here is the issue:

About a month before graduation the high school sent a letter to every family that have a senior graduating. The letter was stating that no one should applause until every student has gone thru... meaning only applause at the end. But if you applause when your family member is going on stage, they will not get their diploma. If you don't sign it then you don;t get to go to the ceremony.
Of course a few student had their parents or whatever applause ... the high school is not will to give them their diploma only after 6 weeks of work during the summer at the high school.

The radio dude thinks she should not get her diploma, however a lot of people were against. I don't really know where stand. I mean she did sign the letter ... but in the mean time she has no control of what her family member will do.

Do you think she should get her diploma or do the bitch work to get it.

If it was me I would just leave the d*mn paper there.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: yassine
OK I was listening to the radio and they were talking about a certain high school issue, here is the issue:

About a month before graduation the high school sent a letter to every family that have a senior graduating. The letter was stating that no one should applause until every student has gone thru... meaning only applause at the end. But if you applause when your family member is going on stage, they will not get their diploma. If you don't sign it then you don;t get to go to the ceremony.
Of course a few student had their parents or whatever applause ... the high school is not will to give them their diploma only after 6 weeks of work during the summer at the high school.

The radio dude thinks she should not get her diploma, however a lot of people were against. I don't really know where stand. I mean she did sign the letter ... but in the mean time she has no control of what her family member will do.

Do you think she should get her diploma or do the bitch work to get it.

If it was me I would just leave the d*mn paper there.

what's so hard about following a simple rule?

graduation ceremonies are so drawn out that no applause until the end helps to speed it up.
i don't see a problem with asking people to refrain, and then they had to tack on something serious to get people to conform.

no diploma for her for 6 wks. it's justified.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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All I know is that when I walked across, people were yelling brown :D

(I'm Indian incase you didn't see the connection)
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
All I know is that when I walked across, people were yelling brown :D

(I'm Indian incase you didn't see the connection)

what can brown do for you? ;)
 

steppinthrax

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: yassine
OK I was listening to the radio and they were talking about a certain high school issue, here is the issue:

About a month before graduation the high school sent a letter to every family that have a senior graduating. The letter was stating that no one should applause until every student has gone thru... meaning only applause at the end. But if you applause when your family member is going on stage, they will not get their diploma. If you don't sign it then you don;t get to go to the ceremony.
Of course a few student had their parents or whatever applause ... the high school is not will to give them their diploma only after 6 weeks of work during the summer at the high school.

The radio dude thinks she should not get her diploma, however a lot of people were against. I don't really know where stand. I mean she did sign the letter ... but in the mean time she has no control of what her family member will do.

Do you think she should get her diploma or do the bitch work to get it.

If it was me I would just leave the d*mn paper there.

what's so hard about following a simple rule?

graduation ceremonies are so drawn out that no applause until the end helps to speed it up.
i don't see a problem with asking people to refrain, and then they had to tack on something serious to get people to conform.

no diploma for her for 6 wks. it's justified.

Yeah that is correct. Although the punishment may seem a little harsh you shouldn't clap during graduation. That's how it was during my H.S. and for my College.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Feb 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
All I know is that when I walked across, people were yelling brown :D

(I'm Indian incase you didn't see the connection)

what can brown do for you? ;)
lol, I get that on a daily basis, and my response is generally, "Overnight shipping, b!tch! Oh, and your tech support ;)"
 

Casawi

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Oct 31, 2004
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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: yassine
OK I was listening to the radio and they were talking about a certain high school issue, here is the issue:

About a month before graduation the high school sent a letter to every family that have a senior graduating. The letter was stating that no one should applause until every student has gone thru... meaning only applause at the end. But if you applause when your family member is going on stage, they will not get their diploma. If you don't sign it then you don;t get to go to the ceremony.
Of course a few student had their parents or whatever applause ... the high school is not will to give them their diploma only after 6 weeks of work during the summer at the high school.

The radio dude thinks she should not get her diploma, however a lot of people were against. I don't really know where stand. I mean she did sign the letter ... but in the mean time she has no control of what her family member will do.

Do you think she should get her diploma or do the bitch work to get it.

If it was me I would just leave the d*mn paper there.

what's so hard about following a simple rule?

graduation ceremonies are so drawn out that no applause until the end helps to speed it up.
i don't see a problem with asking people to refrain, and then they had to tack on something serious to get people to conform.

no diploma for her for 6 wks. it's justified.

Yeah that is correct. Although the punishment may seem a little harsh you shouldn't clap during graduation. That's how it was during my H.S. and for my College.

Yeah I agree it is harsh... people should follow the rules... but she really can't control what her retarded family members do.
I think you only should be punished for something you did, not someone else's actions.
 

KMFJD

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Aug 11, 2005
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What is the big deal with graduation ceremonies? I'd rather skip it and get the piece of paper in the mail (Which is what i did)
 

NissanGurl

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Sadly, I know why rules like this were put in place. When I walked to get my undergrad degree we had people that would ham it up on stage to get more applause (there was one guy that pretty much did an entire step routine across the stage....took for damn ever). All the applause added at least 45 min to the ceremony as a whole. Then again I can understand the other side of the argument. It's a big accomplishment that took several years and they are very proud of the person they know that is graduating. Applause is a good way to express how proud they are. It's when the cowbells and foghorns start going that I think they've crossed the line.
 

BrokenVisage

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Jan 29, 2005
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This is kinda old news, when it was in active discussion I was totally for NOT giving these students the diploma. It's like this, some graduations let you applaud after each person goes up to get their diploma, and some don't, I think it depends on the venue, size of graduating class, and probably tradition in some cases.

Now, I don't know if you've ever heard a "ghetto" family get up and cheer for their daughter or son, but it's annoying and ridiculous how far some of them go, it embarrasses families around them and the people on stage as well. So preventing families like that from going overboard with celebration is reasonable, especially at something prestigious like a graduation. A instance like this makes me think the school had trouble with past families and decided to send out a letter asking for people to hold their applause, which in turn would quell the celebrating all together. Seems fair to me.

I know it sucks for the people who have to pay for their family's over-the-top enthusiasm, but these people are trying to plan and coordinate a respectable ceremony and it's only fair to punish those who attempt to ruin it by no following the same rules other families did.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: NissanGurl
Sadly, I know why rules like this were put in place. When I walked to get my undergrad degree we had people that would ham it up on stage to get more applause (there was one guy that pretty much did an entire step routine across the stage....took for damn ever). All the applause added at least 45 min to the ceremony as a whole. Then again I can understand the other side of the argument. It's a big accomplishment that took several years and they are very proud of the person they know that is graduating. Applause is a good way to express how proud they are. It's when the cowbells and foghorns start going that I think they've crossed the line.

wtf? What a tool.
 
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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: yassine
OK I was listening to the radio and they were talking about a certain high school issue, here is the issue:

About a month before graduation the high school sent a letter to every family that have a senior graduating. The letter was stating that no one should applause until every student has gone thru... meaning only applause at the end. But if you applause when your family member is going on stage, they will not get their diploma. If you don't sign it then you don;t get to go to the ceremony.
Of course a few student had their parents or whatever applause ... the high school is not will to give them their diploma only after 6 weeks of work during the summer at the high school.

The radio dude thinks she should not get her diploma, however a lot of people were against. I don't really know where stand. I mean she did sign the letter ... but in the mean time she has no control of what her family member will do.

Do you think she should get her diploma or do the bitch work to get it.

If it was me I would just leave the d*mn paper there.

what's so hard about following a simple rule?

graduation ceremonies are so drawn out that no applause until the end helps to speed it up.
i don't see a problem with asking people to refrain, and then they had to tack on something serious to get people to conform.

no diploma for her for 6 wks. it's justified.

Yeah that is correct. Although the punishment may seem a little harsh you shouldn't clap during graduation. That's how it was during my H.S. and for my College.

What nanny state do you live in?

They are basically extorting students for free work. Holding something that is rightfully someone else's on grounds that they have to work to get it back is extortion, plain and simple.

If a school didn't want people to applaud and be happy for their family and friends then they don't need to have the ceremony.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Applause: Noun
Applaud: Verb

ZV

To add!

Applauding: Gerund

:p

Oh and I think the rule is stupid and so is the punishment. She already met the criteria to graduate, just hold the diploma and give it to her afterward. Working for six weeks, I'd tell them they can stick that diploma where the sun don't shine. Not like a high school diploma (the object itself) really means anything.
 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
All I know is that when I walked across, people were yelling brown :D

(I'm Indian incase you didn't see the connection)

what can brown do for you? ;)
lol, I get that on a daily basis, and my response is generally, "Overnight shipping, b!tch! Oh, and your tech support ;)"

That's funny, the daily show had this joke :D
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Feb 16, 2003
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What's the issue with getting applaud and showing happiness? I guess this wasn't that long ago for me and it's nice having finished something after 4 years of work. You've spent 4 years with all these people and you're finally moving on - what's wrong with applauding? I'm honestly not even against those horns either.. *shrug*
 

slsmnaz

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Mar 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: yassine
OK I was listening to the radio and they were talking about a certain high school issue, here is the issue:

About a month before graduation the high school sent a letter to every family that have a senior graduating. The letter was stating that no one should applause until every student has gone thru... meaning only applause at the end. But if you applause when your family member is going on stage, they will not get their diploma. If you don't sign it then you don;t get to go to the ceremony.
Of course a few student had their parents or whatever applause ... the high school is not will to give them their diploma only after 6 weeks of work during the summer at the high school.

The radio dude thinks she should not get her diploma, however a lot of people were against. I don't really know where stand. I mean she did sign the letter ... but in the mean time she has no control of what her family member will do.

Do you think she should get her diploma or do the bitch work to get it.

If it was me I would just leave the d*mn paper there.

what's so hard about following a simple rule?

graduation ceremonies are so drawn out that no applause until the end helps to speed it up.
i don't see a problem with asking people to refrain, and then they had to tack on something serious to get people to conform.

no diploma for her for 6 wks. it's justified.

Yeah that is correct. Although the punishment may seem a little harsh you shouldn't clap during graduation. That's how it was during my H.S. and for my College.

What nanny state do you live in?

They are basically extorting students for free work. Holding something that is rightfully someone else's on grounds that they have to work to get it back is extortion, plain and simple.

If a school didn't want people to applaud and be happy for their family and friends then they don't need to have the ceremony.

I'll let mugs make my reply to you.

Originally posted by: mugs

wtf? What a tool.
 

Xavier434

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My HS had the same rule. Parents still gave some applause here and there. Everyone got their diploma.

I understand why they have the rule and I believe that they should continue to use it as a scare tactic, but is enforcing it really worth it? Graduating HS is a really big deal to a lot of kids and their families. Those sorts of memories can stick with someone forever and really give them a sense of accomplishment which can lead to the desire to strive for even more in life. Granted, not every student feels this way, but is denying a student their diploma which they worked so hard to get over 4 years really worth the risk of taking that away from anyone? For the school, it's just one day a year. For the student, it is something that happens once in their life. Who cares if it takes an extra hour?
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
All I know is that when I walked across, people were yelling brown :D

(I'm Indian incase you didn't see the connection)

what can brown do for you? ;)
lol, I get that on a daily basis, and my response is generally, "Overnight shipping, b!tch! Oh, and your tech support ;)"

You should kick them in the nuts and say "United Package Smashers, biznatch!"
 

slsmnaz

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Mar 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
My HS had the same rule. Parents still gave some applause here and there. Everyone got their diploma.

I understand why they have the rule and I believe that they should continue to use it as a scare tactic, but is enforcing it really worth it? Graduating HS is a really big deal to a lot of kids and their families. Those sorts of memories can stick with someone forever and really give them a sense of accomplishment which can lead to the desire to strive for even more in life. Granted, not every student feels this way, but is denying a student their diploma which they worked so hard to get over 4 years really worth the risk of taking that away from anyone? For the school, it's just one day a year. For the student, it is something that happens once in their life. Who cares if it takes an extra hour?

It's HS grad they're not becoming doctors. If it was such a big deal for the families they would have abided by the contract they signed. Doubt they even read it.
 

Xavier434

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Oct 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
It's HS grad they're not becoming doctors. If it was such a big deal for the families they would have abided by the contract they signed. Doubt they even read it.

This is a true statement, but again even if what I described only happens with a minority of the students, is it really worth taking that away from them? The worst thing that happens is that those who do not care lose an hour of their lives. People are forced to sacrifice their time everyday for things that they feel are insignificant. I think this case is for a much better cause than most cases.

 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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personally i feel punishing the student for what others did is wrong.

they did that ina school in IL. the school caved and the kids got them.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
It's HS grad they're not becoming doctors. If it was such a big deal for the families they would have abided by the contract they signed. Doubt they even read it.

"Mom, you have to sign this or I can't go to graduation" "Okay, let me sign that" *signs*

There's your typical scenario :p.

Also, I don't see how people applauding someone really makes graduation longer... at my high school and college graduation, there was applause while someone walked up to get their diploma... they would've walked the same whether or not someone clapped or said "WE LOVE YOU!!" Someone doing some weird routine would slow people down, but I never saw someone do something like that.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Feb 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
It's HS grad they're not becoming doctors. If it was such a big deal for the families they would have abided by the contract they signed. Doubt they even read it.

"Mom, you have to sign this or I can't go to graduation" "Okay, let me sign that" *signs*

There's your typical scenario :p.

Also, I don't see how people applauding someone really makes graduation longer... at my high school and college graduation, there was applause while someone walked up to get their diploma... they would've walked the same whether or not someone clapped or said "WE LOVE YOU!!" Someone doing some weird routine would slow people down, but I never saw someone do something like that.
Yeah, when I graduated, you just kept walking across and applaud wouldn't really slow anything down. I guess I just see it as, you spent 4 years at the damn place, you've already finished all the classes and everything, but they're still being uptight, how the hell does that happen? It's like being in an office for 4 years and still having to clock in at the exact minute you're supposed to be there, leave at the exact time, get a specific lunch time, etc. I don't understand that and why school's would be strict about this.

I'm pretty liberal as long as people do what they're supposed to I guess... I don't want someone watching over my back all the time and I won't do the same for others. By the last year of HS, the people at attendance knew me as a regular and just marked me down as an excused absence even if no one called in or anything :p

It was generally understood that I had a dentist's appointment pretty often ;)

I enjoyed the end of HS, it was a great time, and don't agree with being strict at graduation. I guess it depends on how involved the students are with things going on - at my HS, there was a lot of involvement, most of us had put in a good bit effort outside of class on something or the other, and just wanted to enjoy the end.

HS'ers are kids, not jailmates or something. Why treat them like they were just released from prison by making them sign a contract saying that they'll keep quiet at graduation? :confused:
 

BrokenVisage

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Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
It's HS grad they're not becoming doctors. If it was such a big deal for the families they would have abided by the contract they signed. Doubt they even read it.

"Mom, you have to sign this or I can't go to graduation" "Okay, let me sign that" *signs*

There's your typical scenario :p.

Also, I don't see how people applauding someone really makes graduation longer... at my high school and college graduation, there was applause while someone walked up to get their diploma... they would've walked the same whether or not someone clapped or said "WE LOVE YOU!!" Someone doing some weird routine would slow people down, but I never saw someone do something like that.
Yeah, when I graduated, you just kept walking across and applaud wouldn't really slow anything down. I guess I just see it as, you spent 4 years at the damn place, you've already finished all the classes and everything, but they're still being uptight, how the hell does that happen? It's like being in an office for 4 years and still having to clock in at the exact minute you're supposed to be there, leave at the exact time, get a specific lunch time, etc. I don't understand that and why school's would be strict about this.

I'm pretty liberal as long as people do what they're supposed to I guess... I don't want someone watching over my back all the time and I won't do the same for others. By the last year of HS, the people at attendance knew me as a regular and just marked me down as an excused absence even if no one called in or anything :p

It was generally understood that I had a dentist's appointment pretty often ;)

I enjoyed the end of HS, it was a great time, and don't agree with being strict at graduation. I guess it depends on how involved the students are with things going on - at my HS, there was a lot of involvement, most of us had put in a good bit effort outside of class on something or the other, and just wanted to enjoy the end.

HS'ers are kids, not jailmates or something. Why treat them like they were just released from prison by making them sign a contract saying that they'll keep quiet at graduation? :confused:

You're missing the point and wrongfully assessing this particular issue.