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ivwshane said:
Clown.



www.justsecurity.org

Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”

Essential reading on the Mueller Report: an annotation plus key findings, drawing on investigative reports and Special Counsel court filings.
www.justsecurity.org www.justsecurity.org

It’s a left wing site but it provides sources for each item.
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all of which likely violates campaign coordination laws for soliciting illegal in-kind donations, but mueller didn't bother putting a campaign finance lawyer on the team
 
blackangst1 said:
Right. And thats the problem with so many Republicans. If they win, cleanest election ever. If they lose, voter fraud, stolen, etc. Its crazy.
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Yep - you can't have a democracy if one side doesn't agree it can lose elections fair and square.

I think this was a very large mistake by Republicans. After November 2020 they had an opportunity to slam the door on Trump multiple times and they never took it. They had an opportunity to convict him for the insurrection and decided not to. They had an opportunity to collectively denounce his election lies and instead they said 'let him get it out of his system'. Now we have a party that is very close to abandoning democracy entirely.
 
fskimospy said:
Yep - you can't have a democracy if one side doesn't agree it can lose elections fair and square.

I think this was a very large mistake by Republicans. After November 2020 they had an opportunity to slam the door on Trump multiple times and they never took it. They had an opportunity to convict him for the insurrection and decided not to. They had an opportunity to collectively denounce his election lies and instead they said 'let him get it out of his system'. Now we have a party that is very close to abandoning democracy entirely.
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Not just November 2020 either. There were plenty of other situations prior that would (in the past) have triggered an abandonment if going off of previous norms. Access Hollywood, McCain statements, etc.
 
Commodus said:
The scary thing is that David Frum was right: conservatives aren't abandoning conservatism to win elections, they're abandoning democracy. And that's true outside of the US.
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Gonna have another run at fascism this planet… Wonder how it’ll turn out this time. How grim will it get.
 
cytg111 said:
Gonna have another run at fascism this planet… Wonder how it’ll turn out this time. How grim will it get.
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Could you imagine? All those dystopian movies all coming true. Now we’ve got the cameras and all types of monitoring in places to make sure any uprisings are put down quickly along with a system that allows for the spread of propaganda easily and virtually transparent. Add half the populace who are willing to ignore reality and we have a perfect storm for a very long dark ages.
 
ivwshane said:
Could you imagine? All those dystopian movies all coming true. Now we’ve got the cameras and all types of monitoring in places to make sure any uprisings are put down quickly along with a system that allows for the spread of propaganda easily and virtually transparent. Add half the populace who are willing to ignore reality and we have a perfect storm for a very long dark ages.
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I've been imagining it for some time now. We lose it now, we may never get it back. - Maybe it was unsustainable from the start...
 
fskimospy said:
What’s funny about that is if you really think Epstein was murdered logically Trump should be one of the top suspects as he not only had motive, he ran the jail.
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Yeah but clearly the Clinton’s are criminal mastermind, the likes of which have never been seen before. I mean how else can you explain the fact that they’ve never been charged with anything and no concrete evidence has been found? On the other hand, crime and it’s cover up is new to trump, which explains why he’s so bad it.
 
fskimospy said:
What’s funny about that is if you really think Epstein was murdered logically Trump should be one of the top suspects as he not only had motive, he ran the jail.
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I am not totally free of suspicion though, I must admit, you like I saw that remark by Trump right? “I wish her well”? - I am not saying Trump did it but TRUMP 100% DID IT IT WAS HIM IT WAS HIM IT WAS HIM TRUMP IS ON THE EPSTEIN LIST!!!!!
 
cytg111 said:
I am not totally free of suspicion though, I must admit, you like I saw that remark by Trump right? “I wish her well”? - I am not saying Trump did it but TRUMP 100% DID IT IT WAS HIM IT WAS HIM IT WAS HIM TRUMP IS ON THE EPSTEIN LIST!!!!!
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I don't think Trump had Epstein killed. I do think Trump was worried about what Maxwell might say though and was trying to let her know she had his support.
 
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