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tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.
Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

If any/all of these claims are true, this tech will not be shelved.
I think you mistake big oil for being the type to give a sh!t. I hope you don't think that they care about anything more than the bottom line of their bank summaries. If they could buy the technology and bury it, I feel very certain that they would as soon as somebody told them how much and where to sign.
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.
Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

If any/all of these claims are true, this tech will not be shelved.
I think you mistake big oil for being the type to give a sh!t. I hope you don't think that they care about anything more than the bottom line of their bank summaries. If they could buy the technology and bury it, I feel very certain that they would as soon as somebody told them how much and where to sign.

Why would they bury a technology that would make them money in energy production and waste cleanup?
 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.
Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

If any/all of these claims are true, this tech will not be shelved.
I think you mistake big oil for being the type to give a sh!t. I hope you don't think that they care about anything more than the bottom line of their bank summaries. If they could buy the technology and bury it, I feel very certain that they would as soon as somebody told them how much and where to sign.

Why would they bury a technology that would make them money in energy production and waste cleanup?
Because of the billions invested in the current infastructure. Plus if anybody can make oil... who needs the oil companies?
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.
Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

If any/all of these claims are true, this tech will not be shelved.
I think you mistake big oil for being the type to give a sh!t. I hope you don't think that they care about anything more than the bottom line of their bank summaries. If they could buy the technology and bury it, I feel very certain that they would as soon as somebody told them how much and where to sign.

Why would they bury a technology that would make them money in energy production and waste cleanup?
Because of the billions invested in the current infastructure. Plus if anybody can make oil... who needs the oil companies?

Yes they do have billions invested and if this allows them to develope it cheaper, why would they shelve it?

 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
18,436
4
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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.
Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

If any/all of these claims are true, this tech will not be shelved.
I think you mistake big oil for being the type to give a sh!t. I hope you don't think that they care about anything more than the bottom line of their bank summaries. If they could buy the technology and bury it, I feel very certain that they would as soon as somebody told them how much and where to sign.

Why would they bury a technology that would make them money in energy production and waste cleanup?
Because of the billions invested in the current infastructure. Plus if anybody can make oil... who needs the oil companies?

Yes they do have billions invested and if this allows them to develope it cheaper, why would they shelve it?
Oil companies make so much money because they have a monopoly on selling a non-renewable resource. If anybody with some money and a dream can set up a waste processing plant to convert waste into oil there is going to be a lot more competition in the oil producing area.
Why risk that when you can buy the technology, bury it and continue to make ridiculous amounts of money selling crude pumped out of the ground.

I'm sorry if this new way of looking at things is confusing and frightening. You can continue to think that corporations are looking out for your best interest if it makes you feel safer inside, I really won't mind, but I'm getting tired of rephrasing the same thing.
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
17,033
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.
Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

If any/all of these claims are true, this tech will not be shelved.
I think you mistake big oil for being the type to give a sh!t. I hope you don't think that they care about anything more than the bottom line of their bank summaries. If they could buy the technology and bury it, I feel very certain that they would as soon as somebody told them how much and where to sign.

Why would they bury a technology that would make them money in energy production and waste cleanup?
Because of the billions invested in the current infastructure. Plus if anybody can make oil... who needs the oil companies?

Yes they do have billions invested and if this allows them to develope it cheaper, why would they shelve it?
Oil companies make so much money because they have a monopoly on selling a non-renewable resource. If anybody with some money and a dream can set up a waste processing plant to convert waste into oil there is going to be a lot more competition in the oil producing area.
Why risk that when you can buy the technology, bury it and continue to make ridiculous amounts of money selling crude pumped out of the ground.

I'm sorry if this new way of looking at things is confusing and frightening. You can continue to think that corporations are looking out for your best interest if it makes you feel safer inside, I really won't mind, but I'm getting tired of rephrasing the same thing.

Ok. So lets assume they buy the technology(for billions as big agri is not going to let this go cheap).

Do they use it and make a profit, or do they just shelve it.

Lets say they dont buy it, and con agri makes billions.




 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
18,436
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Originally posted by: charrison
Ok. So lets assume they buy the technology(for billions as big agri is not going to let this go cheap).

Do they use it and make a profit, or do they just shelve it.

Lets say they dont buy it, and con agri makes billions.
These are questions that I don't know the answer to, but none of this changes my original point. I see where you are going though and I feel safe in saying that big oil does not want this process in any sort of public domain. They want to be the only ones providing the oil.
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Ok. So lets assume they buy the technology(for billions as big agri is not going to let this go cheap).

Do they use it and make a profit, or do they just shelve it.

Lets say they dont buy it, and con agri makes billions.
These are questions that I don't know the answer to, but I feel safe in saying that big oil does not want this process in any sort of public domain.

And they are hopeless to stop it. If this works, this is going to happen. Big business is in business to make money.

 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Ok. So lets assume they buy the technology(for billions as big agri is not going to let this go cheap).

Do they use it and make a profit, or do they just shelve it.

Lets say they dont buy it, and con agri makes billions.
These are questions that I don't know the answer to, but I feel safe in saying that big oil does not want this process in any sort of public domain.

And they are hopeless to stop it.
I can only hope so.
If this works, this is going to happen.
Big business is in business to make money.
"Big business" does not own the process... It's probably owned by one guy or a small group. A check large enough could move most people and if that didn't work, threats to personal and family safety could easily sway opinion. I'm not saying that big oil physically coerces people into doing their bidding, but this is not something that is as clear cut as "if it makes money it will be brought to market".

A lot of people with deep pockets stand to lose a lot of money with this and you can bet they arn't going to sit and idlely watch while this new process takes all of their business.
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: charrison
Ok. So lets assume they buy the technology(for billions as big agri is not going to let this go cheap).

Do they use it and make a profit, or do they just shelve it.

Lets say they dont buy it, and con agri makes billions.
These are questions that I don't know the answer to, but I feel safe in saying that big oil does not want this process in any sort of public domain.

And they are hopeless to stop it.
I can only hope so.
If this works, this is going to happen.
Big business is in business to make money.
"Big business" does not own the process... It's probably owned by one guy or a small group. A check large enough could move most people and if that didn't work, threats to personal and family safety could easily sway opinion. I'm not saying that big oil physically coerces people into doing their bidding, but this is not something that is as clear cut as "if it makes money it will be brought to market"

Conagra is far from a little guy.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: charrison
Conagra is far from a little guy.

Their problem though will be infrastructure. If Big Oil wanted to play hardball - they could force their gas stations to NOT sell Bio. But it'd only be a matter of time though, before Bio-Only places would crop up.

Meh - I think Bio is here to stay and there isn't much Big Oil can do about it.

CkG

 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: charrison
Conagra is far from a little guy.

Their problem though will be infrastructure. If Big Oil wanted to play hardball - they could force their gas stations to NOT sell Bio. But it'd only be a matter of time though, before Bio-Only places would crop up.

Meh - I think Bio is here to stay and there isn't much Big Oil can do about it.

CkG

Even if conagra got locked out of retail, they would still be large enough to deal directly with large companies and large distributors.