Anything into Oil

[UltraQuiet]

This is blatantly stolen from another site. It is an article in Discover that talks about thermal depolymerization process, or TDP. Basically what it says is that any waste product can be turned into oil. Now maybe this thing is a huge hoax. Who knows. If it is true, however, this is exactly the thing that gets us out of the middle east, creates a renewable, sustainable energy source, could possible be better for the enviroment, etc. Instead of tryng to figure out the best way to get oil out of shale, this is the technology that the big oil companies should be developing, patenting, etc. If they want a sustainable business, that is.

Anyway it's a good read and a welcome change of pace from the normal BS that goes on around here.

Discover

 

[Czar]

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

 

[sMiLeYz]

I made a post about this very article three months ago.

I thought this was fascinating, theres some real potential for this technology. If this becomes big it will change the way we think about energy, this by far the biggest enviromental breakthrough of the century.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I made a post about this very article three months ago.

I thought this was fascinating, theres some real potential for this technology. If this becomes big it will change the way we think about energy, this by far the biggest enviromental breakthrough of the century.

can you link to your thread, sMiLeYz? Thanks...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I made a post about this very article three months ago.

I thought this was fascinating, theres some real potential for this technology. If this becomes big it will change the way we think about energy, this by far the biggest enviromental breakthrough of the century.

can you link to your thread, sMiLeYz? Thanks...

Sure

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

How would this be a threatening technology?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

How would this be a threatening technology?

They would no longer the OPEC or other events across the globe to blame for their price gauging.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

How would this be a threatening technology?

I think it does threaten Exxon's business model, keep in mind they have billions invested in oil drilling, reasearch, and tankers. Should this technology become feasible to mass produce oil in large quantities, it will threaten their business. We'll see though.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

How would this be a threatening technology?

Because Charrison Inc. can now start producing oil. You do not need oil fields, to deal with pesky foreign governments, anything. If this article is true, you could produce it for less and undercut traditional methods in price. In other words, oil companies no longer would have a monopoly on oil.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

How would this be a threatening technology?

Because Charrison Inc. can now start producing oil. You do not need oil fields, to deal with pesky foreign governments, anything. If this article is true, you could produce it for less and undercut traditional methods in price. In other words, oil companies no longer would have a monopoly on oil.

Well they could just as easily buy the tech and start producing oil locally.
It would be far easier to produce locally rather than ship across the ocean.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

How would this be a threatening technology?

Because Charrison Inc. can now start producing oil. You do not need oil fields, to deal with pesky foreign governments, anything. If this article is true, you could produce it for less and undercut traditional methods in price. In other words, oil companies no longer would have a monopoly on oil.

Well they could just as easily buy the tech and start producing oil locally.
It would be far easier to produce locally rather than ship across the ocean.

Yes and they just might, however oil companies have not just oil. They have contracts long and short term, machinery, refineries, a whole host of expensive commitments and a whole lot of years doing something one way. There are strong disincentives for them, in spite of how it seems on the surface. I have seen this in corporate america quite often when I was doing consulting. "This is how we do things here" was all too common a philosophy.

 

[dmcowen674]

This idea has been around a while with some Scientists theorizing that Oil did not come soley from compressed plant life from the Dinosaur days. There has been some fresh or "New Oil" found near Volcanos suggesting there are other methods and sources of oil type product.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Looks interesting. Hope Exxon et al doesnt buy and bury it if true

Why would they?

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

How would this be a threatening technology?

Because Charrison Inc. can now start producing oil. You do not need oil fields, to deal with pesky foreign governments, anything. If this article is true, you could produce it for less and undercut traditional methods in price. In other words, oil companies no longer would have a monopoly on oil.

Well they could just as easily buy the tech and start producing oil locally.
It would be far easier to produce locally rather than ship across the ocean.

Yes and they just might, however oil companies have not just oil. They have contracts long and short term, machinery, refineries, a whole host of expensive commitments and a whole lot of years doing something one way. There are strong disincentives for them, in spite of how it seems on the surface. I have seen this in corporate america quite often when I was doing consulting. "This is how we do things here" was all too common a philosophy.

Well it would take years if not decades to completely get rid of current infrastructure and replace it with new equipment. The new would not replace the old overnight.

This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.

 

[burnedout]

Yeah, I also brought this up a while back in a somewhat obscure manner.

From my understanding, the Changing World Technologies plant in MO is finally operating. Hopefully the project performs as advertised.

Link to more discussion of the process and plant on the BioDiesel forum

 

[Engineer]

A great read! Thanks to everyone who posted this. I certainly hope this is true....only time will yield results. I bet the price at the pump won't drop though!

 

[zephyrprime]

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

When?

 

[Tab]

Whoa, but does it REALLY work. Has any company actually bought the oil?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Whoa, but does it REALLY work. Has any company actually bought the oil?

Bio-diesel use is spreading quite quickly around here. I heard on the radio recently that a Bio-diesel plant is supplying a whole municipality - even the school district. The town and the school are totally switching their fuel to Bio-diesel. I'll try to dig up a link for you.

CkG

Edit - At the recent Iowa State Fair - the radio station(WHO 1040AM) was in a building that was 100% powered by Bio-Diesel.

Edit 2- Good info on Bio-diesel

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.

Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.

Don't fool yourself. I really really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to oil companies will be sh!tting bricks.

Well, ussuns heyar een Eyohwhey dunt gehv tew shits bout dem dere ohyle kumpennies.

Basically they can put up or shut up - because I don't think Bio-diesel is going to go away any time soon. Read my link - this stuff can be run at 100% bio (although I think that takes some engine mods IIRC) A blend is better for the time being, atleast until production capacity and distribution is more wide spread. I was amazed at the list of places that already sell Bio-diesel here in Iowa. linky :Q

CkG

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Well, because companies have a habit of buying threatening technologies and doing just that. A matter of preserving infrastructure and their way of doing business. It has happened before.

When?

1935-1950. Trolley cars and busses.

Search for "National City Lines". National City Lines, Pacific City Lines and American City Lines were supposedly subsidized by General Motors, Mack Truck, Firestone Tire, Phillips Petroleum and Standard Oil of California. These 'Lines' companies bought out a large number of urban trolley companies. After foreclosure, the electric trolley cars were essentially replaced with gasoline/diesel-powered busses and steetcars. There was an anti-trust suit brought against GM, Mack, et. al. in 1951.

Bradford Snell testified before the U.S. Senate in 1974 and implied the purpose of the NCL campaign was destruction of competition. Dr. David St. Clair argues that acquiring transit companies and then foreclosing the market appears to have been aimed more at the foreclosure of rival technology than the foreclosure of rival firms.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: charrison
This techonogoly if it is all it is claimed to be, would be far to valuable to buy and shelve.

Don't fool yourself. I really doubt that the oil companies want to see this be successful. If whoever owns it doesn't sell out and the process works as it's supposed to big oil will be sh!tting bricks.

If any/all of these claims are true, this tech will not be shelved.



toxic waste cleanup

Solid waste

plastics recycling

tires

cleaner coal

medical wastes

Plus this is being funded by big agriculture(con agra).