Anyone watch the Obamacare Infomercial on ABC?

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy
For like the 80 millionth time, health insurance and car insurance are nothing alike due to the fact that the system of risk/reward is completely different. We as a society are not willing to let you die if you can't pay for your medical care, but we are completely willing to let you go without a car. That simple difference alone completely destroys any attempt to compare the two.

Until we as Americans are willing to let the sick rot in the street if they can't pay, the idea that we should use it like car insurance is absolutely ridiculous. Since Americans are fundamentally decent people, that day will never come.

Obama and plenty of leftists are willing to let sick Americans rot in the streets waiting in lines for health care.

You are now the dumbest ass I have ever seen post on P&N, congratulations, you beat Fear No Evil.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: ayabe
OP has let his preference be known, he prefers assrape by the insurance companies.

Little does he know, a perforated colon isn't covered by his plan.

Here we go again.
Let me know how well the last government run insurance program worked out.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7053462/
http://www.webmd.com/medicare/...medicare-fund-shortage

But damn the facts. Lets keep pushing feel good measure and keep raising taxes.

They can't fund the current commitments, what makes you think they can fund MORE?

But don't you know that the holy one can turn stones into bread and spin straw into gold? It'll all be just fine...just fine.

.gov is great
.gov is good
let us beg them for our food
amen!

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Switch from what? Most, if not all, insurance companies are in for profit - not to cure your ills - but to make sure you stay sick so they can reap the benefits and watch you die a slow and painful death.

How about Insurance companies concentrate on PREVENTATIVE health care instead?

Am I just missing something about UHC that I've not seen how it works in other countries? Walk in, give them your name and info, receive the care you NEED [rather than the care limited by what insurance pays or what you can afford], and leave the hospital a little bit healthier.

My Canadian friends can't fucking believe the crap we go through just to get "healthy" if we're sick.

My wife's cousin, the Canadian Dr., says their heath system sucks.

My friend, the Canadian, was peeing blood for months before he could finally get to a Dr.; then ahd to wait longer for the tests so the doc could tell whether or not he had cancer or some other illness. The precious Canadian plan of which you laud is nowhere near the great panacea you dream it to be.

ABC is a pathetic shill for Obama. Whatever happened to equal time? To allowing for a dissenting POV? Is it now a sin to question the .gov? Whatever. Just wait until you get what you want. When your precious mommies turn 80 and get sick, the new order will tell her she's too old to bother with - too expensive. So sorry. Bye mommy.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Switch from what? Most, if not all, insurance companies are in for profit - not to cure your ills - but to make sure you stay sick so they can reap the benefits and watch you die a slow and painful death.

How about Insurance companies concentrate on PREVENTATIVE health care instead?

Am I just missing something about UHC that I've not seen how it works in other countries? Walk in, give them your name and info, receive the care you NEED [rather than the care limited by what insurance pays or what you can afford], and leave the hospital a little bit healthier.

My Canadian friends can't fucking believe the crap we go through just to get "healthy" if we're sick.

My wife's cousin, the Canadian Dr., says their heath system sucks.

My friend, the Canadian, was peeing blood for months before he could finally get to a Dr.; then ahd to wait longer for the tests so the doc could tell whether or not he had cancer or some other illness. The precious Canadian plan of which you laud is nowhere near the great panacea you dream it to be.

ABC is a pathetic shill for Obama. Whatever happened to equal time? To allowing for a dissenting POV? Is it now a sin to question the .gov? Whatever. Just wait until you get what you want. When your precious mommies turn 80 and get sick, the new order will tell her she's too old to bother with - too expensive. So sorry. Bye mommy.

My friend, a Canadian, came down to the US to get her graduate degree. She experience such horrendous difficulties adjusting to our total lack of healthcare that she's hesitant to return for any reason. She has never had any troubles with the Canadian system. We had an ongoing dialogue about how totally corrupt, and worthless American healthcare is.

Our personal experiences cancel each other out, and are now moot.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Switch from what? Most, if not all, insurance companies are in for profit - not to cure your ills - but to make sure you stay sick so they can reap the benefits and watch you die a slow and painful death.

How about Insurance companies concentrate on PREVENTATIVE health care instead?

Am I just missing something about UHC that I've not seen how it works in other countries? Walk in, give them your name and info, receive the care you NEED [rather than the care limited by what insurance pays or what you can afford], and leave the hospital a little bit healthier.

My Canadian friends can't fucking believe the crap we go through just to get "healthy" if we're sick.

My wife's cousin, the Canadian Dr., says their heath system sucks.

My friend, the Canadian, was peeing blood for months before he could finally get to a Dr.; then ahd to wait longer for the tests so the doc could tell whether or not he had cancer or some other illness. The precious Canadian plan of which you laud is nowhere near the great panacea you dream it to be.

ABC is a pathetic shill for Obama. Whatever happened to equal time? To allowing for a dissenting POV? Is it now a sin to question the .gov? Whatever. Just wait until you get what you want. When your precious mommies turn 80 and get sick, the new order will tell her she's too old to bother with - too expensive. So sorry. Bye mommy.

Ever had a pre-existing condition for something serious? You can die before anybody will help. That is our "glorious system".

Have you ever even been to Canada?. No one pees blood for MONTHS and just sits around. You go to the damn ER and say "I AM PEEING BLOOD" and they treat you.

 

[ChunkiMunki]

would this be mandatory insurance? Even if it was dirt-cheap I'm sure some folks not paying for insurance now would continue to do so, then if disaster struck, buy a government policy, get an operation or whatnot, then dump the insurance, since there wouldn't be a pre-existing condition clause.

This also gives pause about the new gigantic government program to administer it. If this is TRULY a massive need and a high priority, maybe we should gut our defense spending in half to pay for UHC. If we cannot part with the defense dollar then it truly is not needed that badly.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Switch from what? Most, if not all, insurance companies are in for profit - not to cure your ills - but to make sure you stay sick so they can reap the benefits and watch you die a slow and painful death.

How about Insurance companies concentrate on PREVENTATIVE health care instead?

Am I just missing something about UHC that I've not seen how it works in other countries? Walk in, give them your name and info, receive the care you NEED [rather than the care limited by what insurance pays or what you can afford], and leave the hospital a little bit healthier.

My Canadian friends can't fucking believe the crap we go through just to get "healthy" if we're sick.

My wife's cousin, the Canadian Dr., says their heath system sucks.

My friend, the Canadian, was peeing blood for months before he could finally get to a Dr.; then ahd to wait longer for the tests so the doc could tell whether or not he had cancer or some other illness. The precious Canadian plan of which you laud is nowhere near the great panacea you dream it to be.

ABC is a pathetic shill for Obama. Whatever happened to equal time? To allowing for a dissenting POV? Is it now a sin to question the .gov? Whatever. Just wait until you get what you want. When your precious mommies turn 80 and get sick, the new order will tell her she's too old to bother with - too expensive. So sorry. Bye mommy.

Ever had a pre-existing condition for something serious? You can die before anybody will help. That is our "glorious system".

Have you ever even been to Canada?. No one pees blood for MONTHS and just sits around. You go to the damn ER and say "I AM PEEING BLOOD" and they treat you.

I never said our system was perfect; I readily admit it could stand improvement. My main point was that all the wistful longing for is a pipe-dream. In many respects, their not better. And I'll thank you for not calling my friend a liar. I know this person to be quite honest.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
would this be mandatory insurance? Even if it was dirt-cheap I'm sure some folks not paying for insurance now would continue to do so, then if disaster struck, buy a government policy, get an operation or whatnot, then dump the insurance, since there wouldn't be a pre-existing condition clause.

This also gives pause about the new gigantic government program to administer it. If this is TRULY a massive need and a high priority, maybe we should gut our defense spending in half to pay for UHC. If we cannot part with the defense dollar then it truly is not needed that badly.

Defense is in the constitution, health insurance is not. BIG difference.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
would this be mandatory insurance? Even if it was dirt-cheap I'm sure some folks not paying for insurance now would continue to do so, then if disaster struck, buy a government policy, get an operation or whatnot, then dump the insurance, since there wouldn't be a pre-existing condition clause.

This also gives pause about the new gigantic government program to administer it. If this is TRULY a massive need and a high priority, maybe we should gut our defense spending in half to pay for UHC. If we cannot part with the defense dollar then it truly is not needed that badly.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Cut one of the things that our federal government is constitutionally mandated to do so it can pay for something for which it has no mandate.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Switch from what? Most, if not all, insurance companies are in for profit - not to cure your ills - but to make sure you stay sick so they can reap the benefits and watch you die a slow and painful death.

How about Insurance companies concentrate on PREVENTATIVE health care instead?

Am I just missing something about UHC that I've not seen how it works in other countries? Walk in, give them your name and info, receive the care you NEED [rather than the care limited by what insurance pays or what you can afford], and leave the hospital a little bit healthier.

My Canadian friends can't fucking believe the crap we go through just to get "healthy" if we're sick.

My wife's cousin, the Canadian Dr., says their heath system sucks.

My friend, the Canadian, was peeing blood for months before he could finally get to a Dr.; then ahd to wait longer for the tests so the doc could tell whether or not he had cancer or some other illness. The precious Canadian plan of which you laud is nowhere near the great panacea you dream it to be.

ABC is a pathetic shill for Obama. Whatever happened to equal time? To allowing for a dissenting POV? Is it now a sin to question the .gov? Whatever. Just wait until you get what you want. When your precious mommies turn 80 and get sick, the new order will tell her she's too old to bother with - too expensive. So sorry. Bye mommy.

Ever had a pre-existing condition for something serious? You can die before anybody will help. That is our "glorious system".

Have you ever even been to Canada?. No one pees blood for MONTHS and just sits around. You go to the damn ER and say "I AM PEEING BLOOD" and they treat you.

I never said our system was perfect; I readily admit it could stand improvement. My main point was that all the wistful longing for is a pipe-dream. In many respects, their not better. And I'll thank you for not calling my friend a liar. I know this person to be quite honest.

Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Switch from what? Most, if not all, insurance companies are in for profit - not to cure your ills - but to make sure you stay sick so they can reap the benefits and watch you die a slow and painful death.

How about Insurance companies concentrate on PREVENTATIVE health care instead?

Am I just missing something about UHC that I've not seen how it works in other countries? Walk in, give them your name and info, receive the care you NEED [rather than the care limited by what insurance pays or what you can afford], and leave the hospital a little bit healthier.

My Canadian friends can't fucking believe the crap we go through just to get "healthy" if we're sick.

My wife's cousin, the Canadian Dr., says their heath system sucks.

My friend, the Canadian, was peeing blood for months before he could finally get to a Dr.; then ahd to wait longer for the tests so the doc could tell whether or not he had cancer or some other illness. The precious Canadian plan of which you laud is nowhere near the great panacea you dream it to be.

ABC is a pathetic shill for Obama. Whatever happened to equal time? To allowing for a dissenting POV? Is it now a sin to question the .gov? Whatever. Just wait until you get what you want. When your precious mommies turn 80 and get sick, the new order will tell her she's too old to bother with - too expensive. So sorry. Bye mommy.

What happens now if someone is in the hospital and their insurance says no? Its a difficult questions so I'm sure you won't answer it, or maybe you ask one of those make-believe doctors in your little story for help. Here is a hint: they die. You see, if you can't afford a lot of treatments now, you will die, and you might even die bankrupt and your surviving family footing the bill.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: FerrelGeek

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
would this be mandatory insurance? Even if it was dirt-cheap I'm sure some folks not paying for insurance now would continue to do so, then if disaster struck, buy a government policy, get an operation or whatnot, then dump the insurance, since there wouldn't be a pre-existing condition clause.

This also gives pause about the new gigantic government program to administer it. If this is TRULY a massive need and a high priority, maybe we should gut our defense spending in half to pay for UHC. If we cannot part with the defense dollar then it truly is not needed that badly.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Cut one of the things that our federal government is constitutionally mandated to do so it can pay for something for which it has no mandate.

Having healthy alive people in our country is better then building shit to kill innocent people.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

In Canada they don't take you to bankruptcy court.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

In Canada they don't take you to bankruptcy court.

Geez, you can't be that stupid can you? What do you mean take you to bankruptcy court?

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

In Canada they don't take you to bankruptcy court.

Geez, you can't be that stupid can you? What do you mean take you to bankruptcy court?

As in you get a bill so large you go bankrupt?

Don't insult me because you can't realize that people cannot pay a $20k hospital bill.

I have known a LOT of Canadians. Free drugs + care is good.

Have you ever bought any pills out of pocket?

A 30 pill supply (good for a month or two) of Treximet is $759

A 30 day supply of Provigil is $150

Effexor? 90 pills for $392

These are just three common medications. Except for meds that have been in mass production for ~25 years, drugs here are horrendously overpriced and just force many to suffer in the streets.

Do you know how much tests/administration of care/hospital stay/ drugs cost?

 

[piasabird]

Medicare works so well that doctors do not want to take madicare recipients as patients. The government takes so long to pay the doctors that they do not want to take welfare patients. How can anyone trust the government to manage healthcare on a national level. The pigs like Pelosi and others only know how to spend your money. They never had to earn an honest living.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

In Canada they don't take you to bankruptcy court.

Geez, you can't be that stupid can you? What do you mean take you to bankruptcy court?

As in you get a bill so large you go bankrupt?

Don't insult me because you can't realize that people cannot pay a $20k hospital bill.

I have known a LOT of Canadians. Free drugs + care is good.

Have you ever bought any pills out of pocket?

A 30 pill supply (good for a month or two) of Treximet is $759

A 30 day supply of Provigil is $150

Effexor? 90 pills for $392

These are just three common medications. Except for meds that have been in mass production for ~25 years, drugs here are horrendously overpriced and just force many to suffer in the streets.

Do you know how much tests/administration of care/hospital stay/ drugs cost?

Bankruptcy means you have debts you simply cannot pay, hence you declare bankruptcy. If you have any meaningful assets you can and will afford insurance. Nothing forces you into bankruptcy, it is a choice. And it's a very viable and good option for many people, it really doesn't hurt that much. It's called bankruptcy protection for a reason, it's a declaration of protection.

Regarding drugs you are free to get a prescription plan offered by so many providers it isn't even funny. Heck even Bush rolled out one for seniors. Walgreens/Waltmart have very cheap drug plans.

that's the beauty of CHOICE and freedom. You can choose your own destiny.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

In Canada they don't take you to bankruptcy court.

Geez, you can't be that stupid can you? What do you mean take you to bankruptcy court?

As in you get a bill so large you go bankrupt?

Don't insult me because you can't realize that people cannot pay a $20k hospital bill.

I have known a LOT of Canadians. Free drugs + care is good.

Have you ever bought any pills out of pocket?

A 30 pill supply (good for a month or two) of Treximet is $759

A 30 day supply of Provigil is $150

Effexor? 90 pills for $392

These are just three common medications. Except for meds that have been in mass production for ~25 years, drugs here are horrendously overpriced and just force many to suffer in the streets.

Do you know how much tests/administration of care/hospital stay/ drugs cost?

that's the beauty of CHOICE and freedom. You can choose your own destiny.*

Unless you have a pre-existing condition, then you can choose to die in the streets.

P.S. You know you can't declare bankruptcy all the time right? Hope you only ever have one medical emergency.

Some may even go as far as to say every person who stops UHC in this nation is a murderer. I'll leave it at that.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Wrong. If the Government is causing you problems, you have your State and Federal Representatives/Senators to call upon. And you can vote them out.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TruePaige


Unless you have a pre-existing condition, then you can choose to die in the streets.

P.S. You know you can't declare bankruptcy all the time right? Hope you only ever have one medical emergency.

Some may even go as far as to say every person who stops UHC in this nation is a murderer. I'll leave it at that.

I agree the pre-existing condition stuff needs to be done away with. But no hospital in the US will deny you care. By law they cannot. If somebody dies in the streets by not getting care as you say it is their own damn fault.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: SammyJr

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Whooo, so instead of an insurance company telling me I cant have something done, the government gets to tell me me I cant have something done.

And, if you don't like your insurance company, you can switch. If it's the government, we'll, you're stuck.

Wrong. If the Government is causing you problems, you have your State and Federal Representatives/Senators to call upon. And you can vote them out.

You can't be serious either? So if you're sick you have to wait 2+ years for the next election cycle. No wonder you guys support this crap, you want people to wait forever to receive the care they need.

YOU ARE FREE TO GET YOUR OWN HEALTH INSURANCE TODAY, whatever you want. YOU ARE FREE TO CHANGE AT ANY TIME, whatever you want.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

In Canada they don't take you to bankruptcy court.

Geez, you can't be that stupid can you? What do you mean take you to bankruptcy court?

As in you get a bill so large you go bankrupt?

Don't insult me because you can't realize that people cannot pay a $20k hospital bill.

I have known a LOT of Canadians. Free drugs + care is good.

Have you ever bought any pills out of pocket?

A 30 pill supply (good for a month or two) of Treximet is $759

A 30 day supply of Provigil is $150

Effexor? 90 pills for $392

These are just three common medications. Except for meds that have been in mass production for ~25 years, drugs here are horrendously overpriced and just force many to suffer in the streets.

Do you know how much tests/administration of care/hospital stay/ drugs cost?

that's the beauty of CHOICE and freedom. You can choose your own destiny.*

Unless you have a pre-existing condition, then you can choose to die in the streets.

P.S. You know you can't declare bankruptcy all the time right? Hope you only ever have one medical emergency.

Some may even go as far as to say every person who stops UHC in this nation is a murderer. I'll leave it at that.

That's quite a stretch.

Also, we've been over this, hospitals can't deny care to patients, people aren't "dying in the streets."

I do have sympathy for those with pre-existing conditions and don't agree with the way it's currently handled, but making ridiculous statements like you just made doesn't help your cause.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well until you can figure out how people can get insurance, I will take UHC over Private Care.

I'll rephrase, are you aware they have emergency rooms? Do you know that if you go in and tell them you are pissing blood they will see you, run tests, and treat you?

Funny, that's exactly how it is here in the USA.

In Canada they don't take you to bankruptcy court.

Geez, you can't be that stupid can you? What do you mean take you to bankruptcy court?

As in you get a bill so large you go bankrupt?

Don't insult me because you can't realize that people cannot pay a $20k hospital bill.

I have known a LOT of Canadians. Free drugs + care is good.

Have you ever bought any pills out of pocket?

A 30 pill supply (good for a month or two) of Treximet is $759

A 30 day supply of Provigil is $150

Effexor? 90 pills for $392

These are just three common medications. Except for meds that have been in mass production for ~25 years, drugs here are horrendously overpriced and just force many to suffer in the streets.

Do you know how much tests/administration of care/hospital stay/ drugs cost?

that's the beauty of CHOICE and freedom. You can choose your own destiny.*

Unless you have a pre-existing condition, then you can choose to die in the streets.

P.S. You know you can't declare bankruptcy all the time right? Hope you only ever have one medical emergency.

Some may even go as far as to say every person who stops UHC in this nation is a murderer. I'll leave it at that.

That's quite a stretch.

Also, we've been over this, hospitals can't deny care to patients, people aren't "dying in the streets."

I do have sympathy for those with pre-existing conditions and don't agree with the way it's currently handled, but making ridiculous statements like you just made doesn't help your cause.

Hospitals can't deny emergent care to people, but what if you have TB? Early treatment could save your life, that isn't given free.

Pneumonia? If you could walk into the doctor early, you could have your life saved. Otherwise, might die.

Syphilis? Caught early, a few bucks would treat it. Caught late you are uncurable. Remember the case about the life insurer who didn't report STD's to people to save money, just denied them?

The list goes on..and on...

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: TruePaige


Hospitals can't deny emergent care to people, but what if you have TB? Early treatment could save your life, that isn't given free.

Pneumonia? If you could walk into the doctor early, you could have your life saved. Otherwise, might die.

Syphilis? Caught early, a few bucks would treat it. Caught late you are uncurable. Remember the case about the life insurer who didn't report STD's to people to save money, just denied them?

The list goes on..and on...

Out of the 40 million uninsured in the US, how many of those die each year from TB, Syphilis, and Pneumonia? How many of the 40 million uninsured "die in the streets"? Actually, we should probably narrow it down. And out of those numbers, how many were actually denied health insurance?

You may very well have a case here, I just haven't heard of all of these people dying in the streets like you claim.