Anyone still stubborn like me and prefer CRT over LCD?

[CFster]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have 3 crts and 1 lcd. The lcd is relegated to the crappiest internet only machine.

1600x1200 on a 19" Dell Trinitron FTW.

LCDs really just piss me off. Low native resolutions my arse. I prefer the resoluton to be as high as possible.

1600x1200 on a 19" CRT.

Do you use a magnifying glass?

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I have both side to side. Here's a pic of my Sony G520 and my Dell 2001FP
I use the CRT as my main screen. The colors and contrast just blows the LCD away, especially in movies or games. I remember watching silent hill on my LCD with my friends before I got my CRT. We couldn't stand it because the blacks were so washed out. It was like looking at a sea of gray. We ended up taking it to the old 20" tube TV in my brother's room. MUCH better.
Same with playing games. Doom3, quake4, oblivion all looks unbearable on the LCD after you've seen it side by side with a CRT.
LCD's have come a long way, but until they fix the deep blacks issue, it'll never beat a CRT.

The CRT looks washed out compared to the LCD. And dude, how can you drive with a big bar going down the middle of your screen?

well that shows how much his opinion is worth

Nice job jumping to conclusions before understanding the circumstances. :roll:
It looks more washed out because my old CRT's anti reflection coating is worn out, thus it's more prone to reflections than my LCD. It obviously wouldn't look washed out if it didn't have a bright flash reflecting off of it.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have 3 crts and 1 lcd. The lcd is relegated to the crappiest internet only machine.

1600x1200 on a 19" Dell Trinitron FTW.

LCDs really just piss me off. Low native resolutions my arse. I prefer the resoluton to be as high as possible.

1600x1200 on a 19" CRT.

Do you use a magnifying glass?

You don't need one if you know how to adjust windows for your high DPI resolution by adjusting the dpi settings in windows.

 

[dennilfloss]

Still using my 900NF 19" CRT at 1152x864. When it starts failing, then I'll get either a 22"+ widescreen or a 20"+ 4:3 (saw a nice one advertised the other day).

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?...8448&vpn=ET.L6909.025&manufacture=Acer

Of course, in one or two year(s), there will be much nicer stuff still to choose from.

 

[CFster]

Yeah just like anything else the prices will come down too.

I got a 2407WFP 24" widescreen a few weeks ago and it's starting to look not so big anymore. I could have sprung for the 30" but that was almost twice the money.

I figure I'll wait a while and get a 30" for the same money...

 

[CKent]

Ever owned an LCD (not just used one at work)? Before I got mine I felt the same way... that quickly changed

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: zoiks
I had a 19" IIyama that worked beautifully. Friggin thing wouldn't die so I couldn't invest in a LCD. Got tired, gave it away to the gf and bought myself the 2407WFP.

Wish I had bought the 30". The 24" doesn't seem as big as I thought for some reason.

When the IIyama dies, give the gf the 24" and get yourself the 30"

 

[sandorski]

When my Mitsubishi Diamondtron dies, I'll get an LCD. Until then I'll enjoy the sweetness that is AG.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have 3 crts and 1 lcd. The lcd is relegated to the crappiest internet only machine.

1600x1200 on a 19" Dell Trinitron FTW.

LCDs really just piss me off. Low native resolutions my arse. I prefer the resoluton to be as high as possible.

1600x1200 on a 19" CRT.

Do you use a magnifying glass?

You don't need one if you know how to adjust windows for your high DPI resolution by adjusting the dpi settings in windows.

well its pointless because you are kidding yourself, there aren't enough phosphor dots on a 19" to resolve that resolution crisply. so you live with slightly unclear image quality for more "resolution".

as for crts that last a long time... they fade over time, and image quality goes away

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have 3 crts and 1 lcd. The lcd is relegated to the crappiest internet only machine.

1600x1200 on a 19" Dell Trinitron FTW.

LCDs really just piss me off. Low native resolutions my arse. I prefer the resoluton to be as high as possible.

1600x1200 on a 19" CRT.

Do you use a magnifying glass?

You don't need one if you know how to adjust windows for your high DPI resolution by adjusting the dpi settings in windows.

well its pointless because you are kidding yourself, there aren't enough phosphor dots on a 19" to resolve that resolution crisply. so you live with slightly unclear image quality for more "resolution".

as for crts that last a long time... they fade over time, and image quality goes away

You would be wrong on that too. If you do the calculations, you'll find that it does.
A 19" has a 14.4" width. 14.4" is 366mm. The horizontal pitch of the screen is .21mm. Divide 366mm by .21mm, and you'll find that there is 1741 dots horizontally, easily accomodating a width of 1600 pixels.

 

[jjones]

I prefer CRT but heat and space has me buying LCD. If I ever move to Alaska, I'll switch back to CRT.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have 3 crts and 1 lcd. The lcd is relegated to the crappiest internet only machine.

1600x1200 on a 19" Dell Trinitron FTW.

LCDs really just piss me off. Low native resolutions my arse. I prefer the resoluton to be as high as possible.

1600x1200 on a 19" CRT.

Do you use a magnifying glass?

You don't need one if you know how to adjust windows for your high DPI resolution by adjusting the dpi settings in windows.

well its pointless because you are kidding yourself, there aren't enough phosphor dots on a 19" to resolve that resolution crisply. so you live with slightly unclear image quality for more "resolution".

as for crts that last a long time... they fade over time, and image quality goes away

You would be wrong on that too. If you do the calculations, you'll find that it does.
A 19" has a 14.4" width. 14.4" is 366mm. The horizontal pitch of the screen is .21mm. Divide 366mm by .21mm, and you'll find that there is 1741 dots horizontally, easily accomodating a width of 1600 pixels.

um no, you need more than a single phosphor dot to resolve a pixel, let alone clearly. pixels are not directly equal to phosphor dots. http://www.dansdata.com/gz029.htm http://www.dansdata.com/753df.htm he states 1.25 dots per pixels is minimum, and you don't even have that. its fuzz city, i know, i used to do that because 1600x1200 was so cool!! never mind that i had to alter font sizes to compensate for the lack of real clarity,there wasn't any real detail advantage over a more reasonable resolution.

 

[Amused]

I love my Trinitrons. I just don't much like LCD displays.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: mwmorph
I have 3 crts and 1 lcd. The lcd is relegated to the crappiest internet only machine.

1600x1200 on a 19" Dell Trinitron FTW.

LCDs really just piss me off. Low native resolutions my arse. I prefer the resoluton to be as high as possible.

1600x1200 on a 19" CRT.

Do you use a magnifying glass?

You don't need one if you know how to adjust windows for your high DPI resolution by adjusting the dpi settings in windows.

well its pointless because you are kidding yourself, there aren't enough phosphor dots on a 19" to resolve that resolution crisply. so you live with slightly unclear image quality for more "resolution".

as for crts that last a long time... they fade over time, and image quality goes away

You would be wrong on that too. If you do the calculations, you'll find that it does.
A 19" has a 14.4" width. 14.4" is 366mm. The horizontal pitch of the screen is .21mm. Divide 366mm by .21mm, and you'll find that there is 1741 dots horizontally, easily accomodating a width of 1600 pixels.

um no, you need more than a single phosphor dot to resolve a pixel, let alone clearly. pixels are not directly equal to phosphor dots. http://www.dansdata.com/gz029.htm http://www.dansdata.com/753df.htm he states 1.25 dots per pixels is minimum, and you don't even have that. its fuzz city, i know, i used to do that because 1600x1200 was so cool!! never mind that i had to alter font sizes to compensate for the lack of real clarity,there wasn't any real detail advantage over a more reasonable resolution.

Don't cite articles if you don't even know what they're talking about. 1.25 only applies to shadowmasks as the three phospor dots require additional space to fit a square pixel. Aperture grills, like the one on his 19" dell trinitron, uses straight lines, thus it does not have this problem.
Clarity has a lot to do with output signal and video bandwidth too. If you overload the RAMDAC by using a ridiculously high resolution and refresh rate, you'll cap the bandwidth, thus degrading quality. I experience this all the time when I use an insanely high refresh rate/resolution on my CRT. 1600x1200@100Hz looks noticeably fuzzier than the same resolution at 85Hz.

 

[LanceM]

After buying my first LCD (quite a few years ago), I still had another workstation running with a CRT. Two weeks later, I gave up and bought a second LCD. It's disgusting when I have to work somewhere that only uses CRTs.

 

[imported_Beavis]

LCD here

 

[meltdown75]

I still use an old 17" NEC Multisync 70 at home.

I would really like a 19" LCD but I just do not have the money right now.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: uberman
Just a funny comment here. I've got a 21 inch CRT and five 19 inch Samsung LCDs.

You look at the LCD and think it must be light, but they are very heavy. It's kind of amazing. I wish they were light like a laptop screen, instead they're near 20 pounds.

Um...LCD's are unbelievably lighter than a similar CRT. I can barely lift my 27" Sony TV without hurting my back where as I can lift my 42" LCD without issue. There is a significant difference. A 19" Sony Trinitron CRT I have requires both hands and being careful when toting around so you don't hurt your back. I can cary my 20" LCD around with one hand.

 

[DaShen]

CRTs are easier to look at, but a good LCD screen is comparable nowadays.

 

[funboy6942]

I love my old Compaq P1210 22" CRT monitor. I had a Olevia 30" LCD. And just for me the higher res and the fact you have something like 20,000:1 vs 1500:1 contrast make the world of difference in dark games/movies/graphics. Yeah it sucks not having the wide screen and the big picture to look at but my eye candy looks a ton better. Blacks are black not greyish/black and it was driving me nuts in the black areas of like HL2 it just didnt look right when I was loking at the games side by side. I ended up selling my 30" lcd, kept my old compaq and kept my Phillips 30" Widescreen CRT HD TV. Even it looked better to me the the LCD did. Why am I saving space and weight so I can just show off I got a "LCD HD TV" when the picture isnt to par with a CRT HD TV I paid $400 for

 

[drinkmorejava]

I love my 19" Trinitron, especially at 1600x1200, but I can't exactly move it anywhere, so for college and any other random stuff I'm stuck with my LCD. CRTs definitely have a smoother look and the colors are better, but despite high refresh rates, they always seem to start bugging me after a long time.

 

[Turin39789]

Crt's all the way. Picked up my current 21 inch dell badged trinitron for $100

 

[blert]

I have the 24" HP A7247A and LOOOVE it- best thing in the world for gaming. Had some 21" lcd, used it for about 2 days, now it sits in the closet...I'll probably give it to someone for x-mas who doesn't know better.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Dumac
I honestly do.

But I will probably switch to LCD sooner or later...

same here.. but I love gaming at 1600x1200 and above.. and to do that on a LCD you gotta spend bank..

 

[ForumMaster]

nope. i love my lcd.