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Amol S.

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The 930 is the equivalent of the Icon. The 950 is considerably higher end hardware.
When I said equivalent, what I meant was that, Microsoft announced, that it was the successor to the Icon, as in it would have all the same camera MP features. Although, I still do not understand why the Lumia, was more popular than the 1020, even though the 1020 had the more powerful 40MP camera, than the Icon which has the 20MP camera.
 

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The 1020 from what I can tell had a really slow camera because Nokia didn't have deep access to the Windows Mobile OS. Which meant that they weren't able to implement hardware image processing but had to rely on software processing...of the Qualcomm S4 processor, to downscale a 38MP image to 5mpxl every time. So each shot was accompanied by 3 seconds of processing.
 

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I gave up on WP when they orphaned the Titan 2 just a month after I bought it.
 

Amol S.

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The 1020 from what I can tell had a really slow camera because Nokia didn't have deep access to the Windows Mobile OS. Which meant that they weren't able to implement hardware image processing but had to rely on software processing...of the Qualcomm S4 processor, to downscale a 38MP image to 5mpxl every time. So each shot was accompanied by 3 seconds of processing.
So a video taken at highest res on a Nokia Lumia 1020, had a max recording frame rate of 1/3 frames per a second.
 
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I have an HTC One and a Lumia 930 and a Lumia 640 running various builds of Windows 10. What would you like to know?

Kinda silly stuff. I have an idea of where tech is going in the next 10 years. It's kinda obvious. I think phones are going to be thick clients to various thin clients in our homes. Specifically, I want to know if the phones can connect to monitor, keyboard and mouse yet. And if so, what apps can I use? Specifically, can I get the office suite running on the phone?

And on top of all that, how much storage is there?

EDIT: Oh it (the 950 anyways) does all the windows programs I want. I think. NICE! How much is this thing going to be?
 
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I just bought a used Lumia icon for verizon from ebay, waiting for it to arrive. Wanted to give windows phone a try, especially with Windows 10 on the way. May be too little, too late, especially on verizon. But heres hoping its aweome and makes a comeback with the new OS
 
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Kinda silly stuff. I have an idea of where tech is going in the next 10 years. It's kinda obvious. I think phones are going to be thick clients to various thin clients in our homes. Specifically, I want to know if the phones can connect to monitor, keyboard and mouse yet. And if so, what apps can I use? Specifically, can I get the office suite running on the phone?

And on top of all that, how much storage is there?

EDIT: Oh it (the 950 anyways) does all the windows programs I want. I think. NICE! How much is this thing going to be?

With the new dock (and I believe you could with like Bluetooth mice and keyboards) you can and it'll actually put it in a desktop type mode.

I believe there are some limitations with the mobile versions of Office, but you might be able to get around them (I want to say if you're an Office 365 subscriber you get more).

32GB internal (for the 950/XL), and mSD slot.

Prices are expected to be $550 for the 950, and $629 for the XL (unlocked off contract, AT&T will be having a version, will be interesting to see how it prices).

Yeah its a very interesting phone. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like it'll be compatible with Verizon, and Win10 is going to take some time to mature. But they've done a good job of updating devices for the most part.

I'm personally looking at the 950 since it should be plenty big enough (although you don't really save too much overall physical size compared to the XL). I'm also curious if the silver ring on the back is metal as it could protect the lens more and could be great for using those magnetic lenses to help specific use image taking needs. I also don't like that they put the power button between the volume up/down button on the 950XL. I'm glad to see they seemed to have kept camera feature/performance the same between the two (versus say Apple where the Plus gets OIS).

And with the reports about how Windows Hello with the IR camera/scanner on the Surface Pro 4 works, that appears it could be preferable to a fingerprint scanner even.

Will be interesting to see how throttling envelope is as well. The XL has a heatpipe to dissipate the 810. In fact the SoCs is the one area that is a bit lacking (not terribly so, after all it is matching a lot of contemporary Android flagships). So if they get most of the hardware right they could just put in a new SoC next year and reap the benefits of a consistent design (for instance some companies have shown off some pretty nice shells to replace the stock plastic) while offering a decent benefit.

I'd guess that for most people, next year is actually the year to consider these devices. Should be pretty major improvements in SoC, Win10 will be more mature, and docking/Continuum will be more defined (and interesting).

Windows Phone has always been an interesting because it showed so much promise but just never took off.

What reason do developers have to make/port their apps to Windows Phone after Microsoft saying time after time with every major revision that it will be better/easier for them? You can't blame app developers for not wanting to. IMO I think it's too little too late but Microsoft has the money to pay for advertising and paying developers to make stuff for it but they've never poured tons of money into advertising Windows Phone like Apple or Samsung has with their phones, it just seems like they really never cared much about Windows Phone.

Microsoft is making it easy to create and port apps from both iOS and Android, and people are supposedly sideloading Android apps directly on Win10 builds. So with not much work or investment they can get Win10 apps up, and then later make native ones. And end users can possibly use Win10 devices without losing access to apps they've become used to on Android. Will be interesting to see how performance holds up (like games for instance).

The bigger issue is less the developers, and it is more that companies have actively barred development (Google's antics, and several high profile apps have had Microsoft remove 3rd party ones and then subsequently those companies deprecated the WP app).
 

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Prices are expected to be $550 for the 950, and $629 for the XL (unlocked off contract, AT&T will be having a version, will be interesting to see how it prices).

The XL is $649. AT&T is getting the 950, I don't believe they have released contract pricing for that yet.

No CDMA support, GSM/LTE only. Only T-mobile or AT&T for now.
 

Amol S.

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Although there is one thing that is common and makes the Windows Phone have one large plus point.

_____The windows phone basically supports all ranges and bands for 1x signal �� and data transfer. Making it very useful in subway tunnels between stops. Although, however, the catch is that 1x is basically dialup speed, so its not useful for loading webpages, but useful for apps.
 

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I have Win10 running on my Lumia 1020. The latest build is fast, stable, and relatively feature-rich, with decent battery life. The build just before this one was not good enough IMO. Just missing Google Play Services unfortunately.
 

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I'm rocking a Lumia 820.

I got it recently for nostalgia sake. The 820 was my first smartphone.

All I can really say is that I'm happier with it than my android devices, which tend to frustrate and irritate me.
 
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Thanks for the responses.

The 950 or 950 XL look super promising. If I can get full blown office working on one, I think that would be the deal closer. Beyond that I have to do checks for things like Pandora, a running app (I'm a runner). And some other things.

I'm leaving Verizon so I am not concerned. I'm going to a discount carrier mostly on principle (I hate Verizon much how I hate Comcast). Comcast is much worse though.
 
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The XL is $649. AT&T is getting the 950, I don't believe they have released contract pricing for that yet.

No CDMA support, GSM/LTE only. Only T-mobile or AT&T for now.

I think they dropped the price to $629. In Europe they dropped prices on both already. They also had a deal where if you preordered you'd get the Continuum dock for free. Hoping they do something similar here.

I also hope they have some of those nice cases ready at launch.
 

quikah

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Thanks for the responses.

The 950 or 950 XL look super promising. If I can get full blown office working on one, I think that would be the deal closer. Beyond that I have to do checks for things like Pandora, a running app (I'm a runner). And some other things.

I'm leaving Verizon so I am not concerned. I'm going to a discount carrier mostly on principle (I hate Verizon much how I hate Comcast). Comcast is much worse though.

I thought you were a blackberry fan? :)

I believe the office is not 100%. Missing some of the more advanced features. May or may not matter to you. Afaik they are the office mobile versions, should be able to download on a win10 PC to check them out to make sure they will work for you (need office 365 sub to edit, supposed to not be required on <10" devices, not sure how that will work with continuum).

Pandora has a winphone 8 app, not sure it will work on 10. might be able to use the android version on win10 mobile, that is still up in the air, was working in some of the earlier insider builds, but was hidden in the later ones.

I think they dropped the price to $629. In Europe they dropped prices on both already. They also had a deal where if you preordered you'd get the Continuum dock for free. Hoping they do something similar here.

I also hopet they have some of those nice cases ready at launch.

Shows $649 on the MS store right now. Mozo has their backcovers and cases available for preorder. http://www.mozoaccessories.com/
 
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Deeko

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Pandora has a winphone 8 app, not sure it will work on 10. might be able to use the android version on win10 mobile, that is still up in the air, was working in some of the earlier insider builds, but was hidden in the later ones.

All Windows Phone 8 apps work on Windows 10 mobile.