Anyone own a 2006+ Audi RS4?

[Cobalt]

Get the M3. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...ype=b&num_records=25&cardist=8&standard=false

 

[Doppel]

One thing I didn't know about the new S4 is the insane MPG it gets...up to 28 highway.

That 3.9 0-60 time of the CTS-V is still enticing, but in real-world mileage even with the MTM ECU on the S4; I'd be looking at 17-18MPG vs 21-23MPG, but .7 seconds slower.

I am not crazy about the new S4 dash, but I am going to go do a test drive when I get some time.

The main sticker on the CTS-V is the mileage and I need to see how the rear seat folds down. I didn't know it's not the same as the standard CTS.

Anyone know if it's like the CTS-V coupe?

Even @ 17k miles/year on any of these cars you're missing the forest for the trees if you care much about $800/year difference in fuel (17 vs 21 mpg @ $4/gallon). Maintenance, repairs, depreciation will be many thousands/year on any of them, especially piling commuter miles onto there. Five years and 85k more miles either of these will be worth but a shadow of their former self.

 

[alkemyst]

In reality I was being a bit optimistic on the CTS-V and conservative on the S4. Either way you slice it $100 roughly different in gas costs per month which also has the secondary impact of having to stop for gas much more. My driving level will be more like 25,000 miles per year.

Depreciation is not really a concern. I really don't worry about it as I consider a car a consumable.

Still low car cost vs high car cost, $250 is a serious chunk of change each month.

 

[madoka]

Even @ 17k miles/year on any of these cars you're missing the forest for the trees if you care much about $800/year difference in fuel (17 vs 21 mpg @ $4/gallon). Maintenance, repairs, depreciation will be many thousands/year on any of them, especially piling commuter miles onto there.

This is IF you actually believe he will buy any of the cars he has mentioned.

I think it's likely he will hem and haw for months like a little school girl trying to decide between Bieber or the Jonas Brothers. Then in the end, he'll pick something like a Honda.

He's already done that with his wife's car; going from Audi to a Mazda. And he hasn't even bought the Mazda yet.

 

[alkemyst]

This is IF you actually believe he will buy any of the cars he has mentioned.

I think it's likely he will hem and haw for months like a little school girl trying to decide between Bieber or the Jonas Brothers. Then in the end, he'll pick something like a Honda.

He's already done that with his wife's car; going from Audi to a Mazda. And he hasn't even bought the Mazda yet.

My wife picked the Mazda 3. She thinks it's cute.

Hem and haw? Ok old man.

 

[PricklyPete]

In reality I was being a bit optimistic on the CTS-V and conservative on the S4. Either way you slice it $100 roughly different in gas costs per month which also has the secondary impact of having to stop for gas much more. My driving level will be more like 25,000 miles per year.

Depreciation is not really a concern. I really don't worry about it as I consider a car a consumable.

Still low car cost vs high car cost, $250 is a serious chunk of change each month.

Just wait till you have to start maintaining these cars if you're worried about $250.

 

[ayabe]

Just wait till you have to start maintaining these cars if you're worried about $250.

Exactly, once out of warranty budgeting $250/month for repairs alone probably isn't too unrealistic, even a tad low perhaps. $3000 per year for repairs on a halo car is nothing, especially at 25,000 miles a year minimum.

 

[alkemyst]

Just wait till you have to start maintaining these cars if you're worried about $250.

lol dude, you are trying way too hard now.

I am well aware of the maintenance schedules of the cars I am looking at.

It doesn't change the fact that from top to bottom I am not looking at only a $250 difference in monthly payment, but a $150 difference in fuel cost as well.

Both those numbers are significant to just about anyone as a monthly recurring cost.

I am not 'worried' about it, it's one of the various criteria that should be considered. Insurance costs are another. Two similar cars can have very different costs.

 

[alkemyst]

Exactly, once out of warranty budgeting $250/month for repairs alone probably isn't too unrealistic, even a tad low perhaps. $3000 per year for repairs on a halo car is nothing, especially at 25,000 miles a year minimum.

???? outside the CTS-V (which even then...) none of these are HALO cars.

 

[ayabe]

???? outside the CTS-V (which even then...) none of these are HALO cars.

I was referring to the V, which is a halo car. It's the top model Caddy.

Here we go with the negative bullshit, you make a statement, people comment on your statement and you go full negative.

"$250 is a serious chunk of change each month." - Those are your words, if you think that's a "serious chunk of change" then you really shouldn't consider purchasing any of these cars. Fact.

I'm done with your stupid never-materializing purchase threads.

 

[alkemyst]

I was referring to the V, which is a halo car. It's the top model Caddy.

Here we go with the negative bullshit, you make a statement, people comment on your statement and you go full negative.

"$250 is a serious chunk of change each month." - Those are your words, if you think that's a "serious chunk of change" then you really shouldn't consider purchasing any of these cars. Fact.

I'm done with your stupid never-materializing purchase threads.

XLR is the HALO

$250 is a serious difference in car payment over 60 months. It's not going to put me in the poor house though.

The negative is all above as well as bringing in things anyone in my positions/experience already understands.

 

[PricklyPete]

lol dude, you are trying way too hard now.

I am well aware of the maintenance schedules of the cars I am looking at.

It doesn't change the fact that from top to bottom I am not looking at only a $250 difference in monthly payment, but a $150 difference in fuel cost as well.

Both those numbers are significant to just about anyone as a monthly recurring cost.

I am not 'worried' about it, it's one of the various criteria that should be considered. Insurance costs are another. Two similar cars can have very different costs.

I would beg to differ. An RS4 or CTS-V is not marketed toward people who think $250 a month is a big deal. I'm trying too hard...at what exactly? I wasn't aware I have beeng trying at anything other than to tell you that $250 a month is normal over the course of a year for maintenance/repairs on a car in the range you are looking at. If a few hundred dollars a month is swaying you on which if these "baller" cars you should buy...maybe you should be looking at something a little more reasonable like the Charger you had previously mentioned.

Heck, the Michelin PS2's that come standard on the M3 often wear out before 15K if you are driving the car the way it should be driven. You could potentially be replacing them nearly twice a year. There's at least $200 a month right there.

 

[alkemyst]

I would beg to differ. An RS4 or CTS-V is not marketed toward people who think $250 a month is a big deal. I'm trying too hard...at what exactly? I wasn't aware I have beeng trying at anything other than to tell you that $250 a month is normal over the course of a year for maintenance/repairs on a car in the range you are looking at. If a few hundred dollars a month is swaying you on which if these "baller" cars you should buy...maybe you should be looking at something a little more reasonable like the Charger you had previously mentioned.

Heck, the Michelin PS2's that come standard on the M3 often wear out before 15K if you are driving the car the way it should be driven. You could potentially be replacing them nearly twice a year. There's at least $200 a month right there.

You are basically claiming that a $15,000 difference in car price is not a consideration. You are indeed trying too hard speaking at a level you simply do not understand AT ALL.

Also that's another $250 per month on TOP of everything else that needs to be considered.

I am not SET on any of these vehicles and hence why my post asking for feedback...they each offer their own set of pros and cons and fall in the same 'budget' I have for a car each month.

I am also well aware of Michelin PS2s and also the previous Goodyear Asymmetrics which I am already used to replacing at every 10k. AFAIK the PS2 is a 20k mile tire and most do get closer to that outside of aggressive alignment specs and constant burnouts.

However, don't worry your little heart over this...like I mentioned I know the maintenance schedules, I know my yearly mileage and the costs that go with that, I have insurance quotes, etc...I am looking for the driving characteristics...not a bunch of children saying "neener neener neener you are a liar liar liar!"

Get a life.

 

[PricklyPete]

You are basically claiming that a $15,000 difference in car price is not a consideration. You are indeed trying too hard speaking at a level you simply do not understand AT ALL.

Also that's another $250 per month on TOP of everything else that needs to be considered.

I am not SET on any of these vehicles and hence why my post asking for feedback...they each offer their own set of pros and cons and fall in the same 'budget' I have for a car each month.

I am also well aware of Michelin PS2s and also the previous Goodyear Asymmetrics which I am already used to replacing at every 10k. AFAIK the PS2 is a 20k mile tire and most do get closer to that outside of aggressive alignment specs and constant burnouts.

However, don't worry your little heart over this...like I mentioned I know the maintenance schedules, I know my yearly mileage and the costs that go with that, I have insurance quotes, etc...I am looking for the driving characteristics...not a bunch of children saying "neener neener neener you are a liar liar liar!"

Get a life.

Haha...I hope you are not such a d-bag in real life and this is just your online persona.

I fail to see where I was attacking you at all, but rather that I disagreed with your statements and are purely warning you of the costs. You are the person who keeps bringing up your "budget" for the car that you want to purchase. These cars do not fit well for people who have a car budget...especially the numbers that you are throwing around.

As for the PS2's, go to any M3 forum. No one is getting 20K on the rears unless they are pampering them. Why buy an M3, RS4, CTS-V if you are going to pamper them? We'll see about the new Super Sports. You may just get 20K with the highway miles you're driving...but then I would fail to see why you would want to drive all the highway miles you're claiming in such a car....but that's obviously your choice.

 

[alkemyst]

Clearly by your own arguments 'anyone' that can afford these cars shouldn't care about racking up the miles on one. :awe:

 

[PricklyPete]

Clearly by your own arguments 'anyone' that can afford these cars shouldn't care about racking up the miles on one. :awe:

Huh? My argument is not with regard to the costs of those highway miles...it is with the ride quality of these cars...at least the RS4/M3. The CTS-V may have a decent ride...I haven't driven in one to know. Driving lots of miles is something I would want more of a GT like car than a "performance" car. Maybe a 3 Series coupe or A5...or if you want 4 door practicality...maybe even a 5 series or A6. A regular Charger RT or used Pontiac G8 would also seem to be comfortable choices. But to each his own...if that's what you want to spend all those miles in..go for it.

 

[alkemyst]

LOL, yeah RS4 and the M3 are just too harsh for the highways here in Florida.

That's lollerskates even.

 

[PricklyPete]

LOL, yeah RS4 and the M3 are just too harsh for the highways here in Florida.

That's lollerskates even.

Um...I'm not sure what "lollerskates" means...I guess I have to be over 40 to understand what that gibberish means. I drive an M3 in South Florida as a daily driver. If I'm driving to Miami, I generally choose my wife's car because the roads are so shitty. I'm not saying that people don't drive on the highway with low slung cars and sporty suspension setups....I'm just saying that would not be MY choice if I was putting a lot of highway miles on a car.

 

[alkemyst]

S. Florida has some of the smoothest roads in the whole nation.

I don't think you understand the thread you are posting in. I am not looking for a separate commuter nor need a Buick.

 

[PricklyPete]

S. Florida has some of the smoothest roads in the whole nation.

I don't think you understand the thread you are posting in. I am not looking for a separate commuter nor need a Buick.

Yes...your thread is a mind-boggling example of elite internet intellectual discourse. I do not know what I was thinking posting in here.

But who could really understand a thread from alkemyst when he asks for opinions on an RS4. What does he really want? Opinions on the RS4? No way...only a simple mind would think so. Clearly he has more cerebral things in mind.

Get whatever the crap you want with your "budget" that you somehow think we should all be impressed with. I'm done attempting to help you on your mindless attempt at finding a commuter car. It is like watching Christopher Columbus attempt to find the New World in a above ground swimming pool.

 

[alkemyst]

LOL why would I be trying to impress you dudes?

Man I really don't get all the anger here, if it pisses you off so much; skip my post.

 

[DivideBYZero]

You bought anything yet or you still talking smack and magazine racing us all?

 

[alkemyst]

You bought anything yet or you still talking smack and magazine racing us all?

I am the road, have a Orlando event next weekend the another. I have to complete cisco TSHOOT and CCNA wireless by sept 14. Come back later son.

 

[RichUK]

$250 is chump change each month

 

[alkemyst]

$250 is chump change each month

Glad a $15,000 difference in vehicle price is insignificant to you.

But yeah $250 a month in and of itself is nothing.