Anyone here walk away from a "good" college and still do something worthwhile?

Brackis

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Basically I've arrived at college after taking a year off and already dropping out of HS. I was a slacker in HS, who did most of the work in a rushed fashion, got by, was nice to everyone but wasn't being pushed or being productive so I left in my senior year. I then worked my ass off doing things I was passionate about afterward doing fulltime construction at habitat for humanity for $6 an hour and then supplementing that with tutoring in the ghetto neighborhood where I lived(65+ hours every week for 10 months with 2 weeks of vacation to see family).

Based on my very high standardized tests, recs, and extracurriculars I got into Northwestern. I now:
- despise my roommate because all he does is masturbate to anandtech hardware reviews all day and relies on me to be his only friend. He thinks I care about everything he talks about, talks in baby voices all day (including calling me "Bradsies" IF YOU ARE READING THIS, NO I DONT GIVE A ****** IF YOUR ARCH.OS 40GB PLAYER DOESNT SUPPORT MPEG-1 OR WANT TO PUT UP WITH YOUR GOO-GOO GA-GA TALK, I'M NOT YOUR HS GIRLFRIEND WHO YOU VIDEOCHAT WITH)
- Hate the people on the floor who are loud assholes who talk boisterously and shout out to their other meat-head friends to announce their presence in some sick animalistic territorial way. I thought getting a 1400 on your SAT at least ensured you could be a quiet asshole.
-I enjoy the professors who have great things to say and then have miserable TA's who give unjustified sh!t grades to me and unjustifiable good grades (Got a B+ on a midterm that was strictly an essay that was poorly done in my opinion thought I had a C-, and a D because of "poor writing" on a midterm that was a shorter essay where I was given a 45% that I though I'd aced). Again, they aren't out to get me, I just don't agree with the academic philosophy and the discretion over difficulty litmus tests.
-it costs $45,000 a year to have a miserable time that is being paid for by my wealthy grandparents. Keeping this money in the family, or allowing them to pursue other charitable avenues is something I'm all for if I cannot appreciate the diploma it buys. The fact that I'm from such a well off background makes me not concerned with my salary after school, although economic competition is something that interests me at some level. I'd much rather be contributing to society than earning seven figures.
-I can retain long term about 90% of what I ACTUALLY learn thanks to a wonderful memory, which is about 80% of the material but have no motivation to study beyond that because I define work from the philosophy of production (thus why I can work diligently for 10 hours a day, 6 days a week at a job but can't put up with random homework assignments)
-We have the worst team in the Big T1E1N for football which just plain sucks to go watch :eek:
-While I respect the advanced topics of many fields, my interests in all math and science is gone since I last took linear algebra 2 years ago and hated it ever since. My true interest is in policymaking and law. Problem being I can't skip straight to law school or master one subject because of requirements.
-School is located in a generally upscale area and limits my ability to seek out the most at risk areas where I have typically done community service in the past.
-I have yet to miss a single class, discussion etc... and always participate when I have something of value to contribute. (unlike most people who are silent or make comments that are not based on the reading, the topic, or experience outside of personal situations) Even still, my efforts are useless because the entire quarter is determined by 3 hours of unobjective bluebook scribbling where my genuine interest in topics is hidden in poor handwriting and the same questions answered by the rest of the folks who don't care.


Thus far I've considered these options:
-Suck it up and be miserable until I can hopefully find some petty niche rather than seek out the truly meaningful and empowering work that interests me.
- Dropout at the end of the quarter and attend a Community College in the bay area, do comm serve on the side and if I feel like I want to get a BA/BS from a State university.
- Dropout and look for a random job that could possibly be parlayed into career advancement (problem here being that public sector jobs that I'm interested in use the merit system and would generally require at minimum a B.A)
-Dropout and move to a far off place such as Canada, Southeast Asia, anywhere that I could safely live and be able to enjoy the world in a more simple form. (Saved up about $25k in cash over the years from my various endeavors that could keep me afloat for the moment)
- Join the armed forces (As a way to give me a little clout if I went into policy, gov etc...)
-Attempt to transfer to Brown (for open curriculum with no requirements, got waitlist there initially and could use connection to possibly push me over the edge the 2nd go around) , Harvard, or Stanford (previous involvement with oncampus community tutoring outreach programs at both of these schools plus students who are truly gifted= why I consider these schools only, as it isn't sociability that I crave, rather the plane at which this interaction takes place and the fact that when I can truly feel intellectually inferior it is motivation to work harder). Problem being they have low transfer acceptance and I won't have anything spectacular to show them besides a good SAT score and extracurriculars, which is why they all rejected me the first go around.


What sounds like the best option to you? Anyone been in a similar situation and made a choice to leave?
I do expect some replies to be "dude you're in your first quarter, lots of people have doubts but they go away". If you truly believe this then I encourage you to post it.
My end goal is to assist society using my abilities/interests in social progress, but the more I stay in school the more sh!t I have to put up with, and the less I want to be a nice person. It's not that I lack social skills (very good actually considering I can put up such a normal schmoe facade all day to fit in), have emotional mood swings daily, use any drugs, etc... I AM NOT A NIHILIST BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, I just cannot find a situation that inspires me and am not one to sit and rot away in my misery. I want to improve my condition!
Cliffs:
A poorlty constructed pity story for the truly nice folks of ATOT to read. I appreciate your interest but valid advice requires a complete read in my selfish opinion. I hope you understand this and don't think I'm talking down to you. -Brad
 

MetalMat

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Need some cliffs dude. You need a college degree to get many jobs nowadays.
 

Syringer

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Does your roommate post here?

I would definitely try to finish your education one way or another though..it's not easy to try to finish it in the future, and you've already spent so much money/effort to get where you are.

If you transfer, defnitely look into what sort of units/classes will go along with you. If it's a lot, that might be a good option..if not then staying at NW would be better.

Can't you request a new room or anything?
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: JEDI
how is this thread like catcher in the rye ?

I'm a lonely white kid from a good background who is performing mediocre in school even though I'm narcissistic in believing I'm a genius, while everyone else is just a phony.
 

drinkmorejava

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I'd do rotc next year, non-commission. Yes, you can start your sophomore year. By not being under commission you're not obligated to stay, however, you would be if you continued Jr and Sr. year. lol actually, if you want to be an ass about it, you wouldn't even have to go to PT.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
I'd do rotc next year, non-commission. Yes, you can start your sophomore year. By not being under commission you're not obligated to stay, however, you would be if you continued Jr and Sr. year. lol actually, if you want to be an ass about it, you wouldn't even have to go to PT.

If I "stick it out" that defeats the option of military service. I have no interest in military service if I've got a B.A.
 

Reckoner

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You might as well wipe your ass with your future degree if it isn't something your passionate about.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: Quintox
/don't understand what you are asking

Looking to see if in the heat of my dissappointment with how college is turning out, whether people have dealt with such issues or think my ideas are valid in any way.
 

fire400

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Don't feel bad, man.
Your background is only as good as what you can utilize in your current situations. Obviously something isn't right. Don't get depressed. You fail to see what a college education from a good school can offer you. Not just to maintain a high paying job, but to see into the future with two eyes.

It's time and place, buddy. You have to work with both. Acquire some goals that will help you become more subject to dicipline. Have faith in yourself. Even if you don't have a lot of close friends, you can at least help teach your room mate a lot of good things. You probably don't want to hear this one, but there is no happiness in the sacrifice of other human beings. When we think we don't need our parents, it's not that we have to crawl back to them if we need resources, it's the bondage, like a friendship - you visit and talk and you do things together every so often. It's part of life, you find your past and you relive the good times, and come up with ideas to making it more fulfilling. Disturbances exist only to help balance out how much we can contribute as people. When we ignore the bad things in life, it makes us weaker. Often times the only solution at times is to force your brain to become ignorant so that you can enjoy life in a different perspective? Or simply try to make the best of things: and stick out like the friend who always said "hi" to everyone in high school or college. You know ofcourse, remaining ignorant isn't going to really make you happy anyway, so if you want to open up perspective rather than keep any closed ones, think about your potential contributions to the world, starting with where are right now.

"The mind shall be key." -Groove Coverage
(furthermore, adjust your focus for success and not failure. you can't escape reality, in the real sense, reality catches up to you, and if you are not prepared; it will make you quite sad. believe it or not)

You do not have to be a Republican or even like our current President, but his 2001 Inauguration is actually quite good, read it several times and think to yourself if you can achieve any of these, that so many people find hard to reason with:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/inauguration/speech.html

p.s. I won't debate about how well Bush has helped our country grow, but that is an A+ speech for any solid professor to recognize.
 

Brentx

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If you're complaining about people in the dorms being stuck up loudmouths.. well welcome to college. I'm sure it is bad at Northwestern, but if you go to a state college it will probably be even worse. You should see the UW school system... UW Milwaukee is full of about 25000 drunks, and 4000 kids who actually care about college.

Welcome to college.

I would suggest you get your degree though. If anything, move out into an apartment, it will be much much better than the noisy dorms.
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: intogamer
Go to Boston Uni? People seem more social there.

I don't think he's in the same state... you might be thinking of Northeastern...
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: Anonemous
Originally posted by: intogamer
Go to Boston Uni? People seem more social there.

I don't think he's in the same state... you might be thinking of Northeastern...

Correct, although I am originally from the Boston area.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: fire400

Your background is only as good as what you can utilize in your current situations. Obviously something isn't right. Don't get depressed. You fail to see what a college education from a good school can offer you. Not just to maintain a high paying job, but to see into the future with two eyes.

Which is exactly my concern, I have been rendered useless by my suburban institution.
 

stars

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Start by renting an apartment. Take atleast one day off during the weekend (if not more) to unwind. Meet up with a freaky college chick that has freaky female friends - do them all every chance you get. Consume mass amounts of alcohol. Really though, enjoy your time and dont take things so serious. It will all pass faster than you realize.
 

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Originally posted by: stars
Start by renting an apartment. Take atleast one day off during the weekend (if not more) to unwind. Meet up with a freaky college chick that has freaky female friends - do them all every chance you get. Consume mass amounts of alcohol. Really though, enjoy your time and dont take things so serious. It will all pass faster than you realize.
:laugh:
 

Mo0o

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you're definitely not gonna get into stanford or harvard by transfer especially if you got rejected first time around and nothing impressive to show since then. I would suggest switching roommates next semester or more realistically next year. Just go make some friends and spend as much time with them as possible. better yet, get a girlfriend.

having bad luck in classes is about the same anywhere you go. some people get lucky and have good / ok profs all 4 years and sometimes people get shafted and land some a-hole that gives nothing but Bs and Cs
 
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I suggest you STFU, grow a pair, get your degree, and act like a man. When you are 25, if all you want to do is smoke pot, you will have a good 40-50 years to do that. A BA from a good school is hard to replace in this day and age.
 

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Originally posted by: LordSegan
I suggest you STFU, grow a pair, get your degree, and act like a man. When you are 25, if all you want to do is smoke pot, you will have a good 40-50 years to do that. A BA from a good school is hard to replace in this day and age.
And I suggest you are so far out of your league in this thread that you lack the intellectual wherewithal to realize it.

 

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I sorta am. I am a RN. I pretty much can live out of my car. I will go somewhere, find a job with a hospital, make some money and then after 3-9 months, I pack up and move on. I've been living in Austin, TX for about seven months now. I'm starting to get the itch to move on. I've already worked in Chicago, Rockford, Indianapolis, Philadelphia, Mobile and Baton Rouge. I'm thinking of heading to El Paso or Phoenix.
 

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Well, you have a couple choices (I'm dealing with the same choices right now):

- Set your mind on a particular goal. For instance, go to your university's career services place, look through potential careers. If you find something you might like, try and shadow someone who does that job. Seeing how Northwestern is a pretty reputable school, there's probably plenty of alumni who are doctors, lawyers, investment bankers, executives, etc. If it turns out you really want to do one of those jobs, there's your motivation to get a high GPA. There's nothing like the fear of falling into the cess pool of mediocrity to put a fire under your ass and make you study like you mean it.

- Join the military. Seriously. I had friends who were like you, smart but didn't really have a direction and weren't happy with their current situation. If you try the above suggestion, and can't find a career that's interesting, do ROTC on scholarship at your school and join the military, or transfer to a service academy. All of my friends that were in the military came out with a much greater appreciation for life and a VERY clear direction as to what they were going to do for the rest of their life.

- Drink/Do drugs/Have lots of sex. This can be intermixed with the above suggestions to various degrees. Once or twice a month to unwind after stressful exams, every weekend to give you something to look forward to, or 4 times a week to give you a purpose.

As far as your grade problems, talk to the professors. College is about learning to deal with people (unless you're an engineering major), and you have to understand that the majority of people are not like you. So when the TA gives you a bad grade, it's hard to understand what they were thinking unless you go talk to them. If you show you're really interested in the subject matter and are really concerned about your grade, they'll give you the benefit of the doubt on the next test.

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- Find an occupation you want to do. Work hella hard to get it.
- Join the military. It sucks, but it will give you direction and respect.
- Party. It's an essential part of college. Do it to the degree that seems right for you.
 

sash1

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fvck college. do what you want to do, don't conform to society. if you don't see the point in a college education, then don't waste four years of your life and try to get some work experience in a field that you want to be in.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: fishmonger12
Well, you have a couple choices (I'm dealing with the same choices right now):

- Set your mind on a particular goal. For instance, go to your university's career services place, look through potential careers. If you find something you might like, try and shadow someone who does that job. Seeing how Northwestern is a pretty reputable school, there's probably plenty of alumni who are doctors, lawyers, investment bankers, executives, etc. If it turns out you really want to do one of those jobs, there's your motivation to get a high GPA. There's nothing like the fear of falling into the cess pool of mediocrity to put a fire under your ass and make you study like you mean it.

- Join the military. Seriously. I had friends who were like you, smart but didn't really have a direction and weren't happy with their current situation. If you try the above suggestion, and can't find a career that's interesting, do ROTC on scholarship at your school and join the military, or transfer to a service academy. All of my friends that were in the military came out with a much greater appreciation for life and a VERY clear direction as to what they were going to do for the rest of their life.


As far as your grade problems, talk to the professors. College is about learning to deal with people (unless you're an engineering major), and you have to understand that the majority of people are not like you. So when the TA gives you a bad grade, it's hard to understand what they were thinking unless you go talk to them. If you show you're really interested in the subject matter and are really concerned about your grade, they'll give you the benefit of the doubt on the next test.

I was under the impression that the military academies do not accept transfer students.
Problem with "talking to the TAs" is that under the quarter system its a midterm and final and that's it. So unless I drop the classes I dislike now, I have no way to steadily remedy the grades that I do not feel are justified.
My goal is to become involved with government and the legislative process, but like I said, my present situation makes it very difficult to find inspiration to serve the community at large when I'm surrounded by a small portion, while not representative of the larger populous, who causes me to act in an unproductive fashion.