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Lifer
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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Originally posted by: MikePanic
Originally posted by: LordJezo
Me and my 250r Ninja.


heh, might wanna adjust your mirrors a bit :D

Yeah yeah yeah!

I love that little bike.. so light!! I really don't see the need for a huge sport bike after this one. People say.. OH NO! IT CANT GO PAST 110 MPH! Bah. When will I ever want to go 110 mph? Do that and either die or get pulled over.

everything past 100mph all feels the same. I've pushed my bike to the limits (~160s) and it's scarier than anything you'd ever believe. People who go over 100mph are outright squids (computer equivalent of a n00b or a poser).

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Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MikePanic
unlike cars... bikes deterioate MUCH faster...
Not if you're into cruisers or standards. I've got an '82 Honda CB450SC with only 7,000 miles on it. When I bought it, it had been sitting for a couple years. Took the carbs off, cleaned 'em, threw in a new battery and new spark plugs and oiled everything and the bike ran as good as new. With a new set of tires, she was ready to hit the road.

ZV
 

MikePanic

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sounds like one cuz im on the internet telling you my bike CAN do 110 in 2nd gear... its bone stock... ive been riding for 6 years, work at a custom bike shop - sport bikes, crusiers, big twins, kit bikes, choppers, etc...

im not a squid, i dont go ripping around my city @ 140mph or get on the highway and do 150 splitting lanes... its just thats what the bike is capable of doing...
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: MikePanic
sounds like one cuz im on the internet telling you my bike CAN do 110 in 2nd gear... its bone stock... ive been riding for 6 years, work at a custom bike shop - sport bikes, crusiers, big twins, kit bikes, choppers, etc...

im not a squid, i dont go ripping around my city @ 140mph or get on the highway and do 150 splitting lanes... its just thats what the bike is capable of doing...

just making sure ;)

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I will be buying a bike in the next year or so.

Probably going to start small.
 

MikePanic

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: MikePanic
unlike cars... bikes deterioate MUCH faster...
Not if you're into cruisers or standards. I've got an '82 Honda CB450SC with only 7,000 miles on it. When I bought it, it had been sitting for a couple years. Took the carbs off, cleaned 'em, threw in a new battery and new spark plugs and oiled everything and the bike ran as good as new. With a new set of tires, she was ready to hit the road.

ZV

consider yourself lucky. we had a 15th aniversary honda cruiser in our shop... it sat for 5 years... EVERYTHING that could have gone wrong from sitting did... and the carbs they no longer manufactor and dont make parts for... so we litterly had to rig something to get the bike half running ok

you got lucky w/ yours... generally speaking bikes w/ less then 2k miles per year put on them over a period of time tend to have seals problems, whether its fork seals, engine seals, carb seals, etc...
 

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Lifer
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ebay is a haven for old bike parts, especially carbs. Older carbureted and chain driven bikes (as opposed to shaft or belt) are relatively simple to diagnose problems with, given there are only a few "systems" on the bike, but don't get me wrong...i love my injected gix!

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Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MikePanic
consider yourself lucky. we had a 15th aniversary honda cruiser in our shop... it sat for 5 years... EVERYTHING that could have gone wrong from sitting did... and the carbs they no longer manufactor and dont make parts for... so we litterly had to rig something to get the bike half running ok

you got lucky w/ yours... generally speaking bikes w/ less then 2k miles per year put on them over a period of time tend to have seals problems, whether its fork seals, engine seals, carb seals, etc...
I've done old cars, my buddy does old Harleys. In my experience, the only time something gets screwed up from sitting too long is when one of two things happens:

1) Some idiot fails to set it up for storage properly.

2) Some idiot fails to re-oil everything when taking it out of storage.

If a machine is set up to be stored, there's very little that's going to go wrong. Bikes are not inherently more prone to decay than automobiles, it's just that many are owned by people who couldn't winterize a bike properly if they wanted to.

Bikes are like everything else, the tendency toward mechanical decripitude is directly proportional to the amount of care received. Something that's "ridden hard and put away wet" all the time isn't going to last, and something that's barely ridden but has meticulous care taken of it, is going to last.

ZV
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
In my experience, the only time something gets screwed up from sitting too long is when one of two things happens:

1) Some idiot fails to set it up for storage properly.

2) Some idiot fails to re-oil everything when taking it out of storage.

If a machine is set up to be stored, there's very little that's going to go wrong. Bikes are not inherently more prone to decay than automobiles, it's just that many are owned by people who couldn't winterize a bike properly if they wanted to.

ZV

I've found that 80% of older bikes are neglected and require some form of restoration. Very few people maintain their bikes.

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Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: bmacd
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
In my experience, the only time something gets screwed up from sitting too long is when one of two things happens:

1) Some idiot fails to set it up for storage properly.

2) Some idiot fails to re-oil everything when taking it out of storage.

If a machine is set up to be stored, there's very little that's going to go wrong. Bikes are not inherently more prone to decay than automobiles, it's just that many are owned by people who couldn't winterize a bike properly if they wanted to.

ZV
I've found that 80% of older bikes are neglected and require some form of restoration. Very few people maintain their bikes.

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I'll grant you that. But that's not the bike's fault. And with time and dilligence it's certainly quite possible to find an older bike in good condition. Problem is that people assume that good aesthetic condition is the same as good mechanical condition, which is not true. My bike, while presentable, is not in great aesthetic condition. I need to go over it with chrome polish because the chrome plating is pitted in some places and there are some stone chips on the front of the fuel tank. The engine, transmission, and mechanicals, however are in excellent shape. The previous owner was a guy like me. Kept up the mechanicals and just left the rest presentable.

I just dislike blanket condemnations of older machinery since the mechanically sensitive person can easily find examples in very good shape if he is willing to put some time into the search.

ZV
 

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Lifer
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given proper preventative maintainence, a bike can last 100 years...but the matter of how many people are willing to take care and responsibility for something they'll probably sell in a few years or lock in the garage is more likely.

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Originally posted by: SampSon
I will be buying a bike in the next year or so.

Probably going to start small.


"Probably"???

Delete that word.

ya...3 friends died this year...and they were experienced riders. 250/500 CCs is a great place to start. older 600s (~'90s) are great bikes if you're looking for a sportier bike, as are ninja 250/500s, Honda GS500s, etc. I don't recommend buying a bike newer than 2000 for your first, b/c you WILL dump it. Bikes with plastic fairings (body panels) are VERY expensive to fix. Just remember---you'll never own the bike...the bike and streets will own YOU! You go from being the majority on the road to the minority on a bike. People don't care about you...it's all about defensive driving and thinking on a level higher than your average driver.

I wish you a safe and happy season. Feel free to PM if you need any help :)

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Raj

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97 Honda CBR 600 F3
Candy base coat:sterling silver
yoshi pipe.
Polished wheels.

working on the polished frame.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: bmacd
Originally posted by: LordJezo
Originally posted by: MikePanic
Originally posted by: LordJezo
Me and my 250r Ninja.


heh, might wanna adjust your mirrors a bit :D

Yeah yeah yeah!

I love that little bike.. so light!! I really don't see the need for a huge sport bike after this one. People say.. OH NO! IT CANT GO PAST 110 MPH! Bah. When will I ever want to go 110 mph? Do that and either die or get pulled over.

everything past 100mph all feels the same. I've pushed my bike to the limits (~160s) and it's scarier than anything you'd ever believe. People who go over 100mph are outright squids (computer equivalent of a n00b or a poser).

-=bmacd=-

No.

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Mungla

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Been riding for 3 years. Sold my first bike this past summer and bought my second a couple of months ago. 2004 Kawasaki ZX-6R in the metallic blue. She's currently sitting out in the shop waiting for better weather, and for a set of framesliders and footpegs to arrive Wednesday. This bike is so fricken fast it isn't even funny. Love hitting the rev limiter in 6th at an indicated 185 (actual 172-174).

My baby

And, btw, my first two years were on a 250 Ninja. Anyone who calls someone who spent 2 years on a 250 a squid has problems. Squids = no helmet, no gear, no brain (probably blew out his ears from lack of said helmet), and no skills. First thing I did when I bought the 250 was plunk $600 down on a Shoei helmet. Then another $400 on textile gear and gloves.

You can do 110 in 2nd.. yeah no problem. Try holding the front wheel in the air at 11 o'clock at 110. That's when it gets interesting. It's also why I need a new footpeg. Factory footpegs tend to snap off when standing on them (surfing the wind - standups).
 

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Lifer
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mungla: you my friend, are the perfect mold for a squid. It's only a matter of time before Darwinism takes care of you. Have your parents email your funeral information to my email address.

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Mungla

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Originally posted by: bmacd
mungla: you my friend, are the perfect mold for a squid. It's only a matter of time before Darwinism takes care of you. Have your parents email your funeral information to my email address.

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Lol. I appreciate the comment. I'll take my chances. Better to die happy. Three years of riding and no accidents. Atleast I don't pull stoppies and wheelies in downtown like all of my buddies (who do it while wearing no helmet). Atleast if I wipe out, It'll happen out in the rural areas.

Anyone who gets on a motorcycle should accept the fact that: 1.) you're going to crash at some point in time so atleast be prepared physically and mentally, and 2.) you could get killed. I've had close calls and have accepted them and moved on (classified as learning experiences).

 

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Lifer
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anybody can go fast on a bike...it takes no skill in doing that. If you think you're such a hotshot, come to the track. And fwiw, i'm calling your bluff that you can't wheelie in 2nd gear @ 110mph, let alone pulling an 11 o'clocker. And i've NEVER seen a factory footpeg snap off from standing on it. Dude, i beat the HELL out of my bikes, and the only time anything has ever broken off was from a crash. You're full of sh|t.

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Mungla

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Originally posted by: bmacd
anybody can go fast on a bike...it takes no skill in doing that. If you think you're such a hotshot, come to the track. And fwiw, i'm calling your bluff that you can't wheelie in 2nd gear @ 110mph, let alone pulling an 11 o'clocker. And i've NEVER seen a factory footpeg snap off from standing on it. Dude, i beat the HELL out of my bikes, and the only time anything has ever broken off was from a crash. You're full of sh|t.

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Lol. Go to the ZX6r.com forums and search for "broken footpeg." You'll find people buying aftermarket pegs due to that fact. Happens ALL of the time on the 6R. 110mph (indicated) is very feasable in 2nd gear. As long as you can do a standup in 2nd gear, you can take it to redline (~110). Some guys around here are crazy enough to do 3rd and go 130-140mph. 11 o'clock wheelies just take practice; when you're that high, you can hear the echo from your exhaust fumes hitting the asphalt and it scares the crap out of you at first.

And, BTW, a buddy has a Ducati 996SPS that we both take to the track on occasion to race (I took it to a track school in Colorado this past fall even); the rest of the time it sits in my shop being worked on (currently disassemblying the stupid dry clutch to shave a couple of the friction plates). So if you think "going to the track" is a big deal, it is, but you're not the only one that does it.

I'm not going to get defensive because you do not know me, and I do not know you. Attacking strangers on a forum is no way to make friends.