Anyone have peridontitis gum disease (gums bleed easily) and cured it?

[fuzzybabybunny]

I finally went to the dentist after ten years. I didn't go because my teeth have always looked and felt fine, but I didn't consider the gums. The teeth were all totally fine, but my gums bled.

I only floss when I feel something stuck between my teeth. Sometimes I floss and have blood on the floss, but I thought this was because I flossed too hard.

Apparently there is no case where flossing should result in blood.

I've got peridontitis and gingivitis. Both arise due to not flossing. Bacteria build up between the teeth, then plaque, which turns into hard deposits called calculus that require professional removal. If not removed the tissue attaching your gums and teeth will permanently separate and very bad, painful, and expensive things happen down the line.

The bacteria and plaque can get way down into the pockets of the gums, well out of reach of any toothbrush. Easily bleeding gums is a symptom of your body trying to fight off the continuous bacterial and plaque action in those pockets.

Anyway, proper flossing is now a must. It must be done every day, preferably a couple of times a day because plaque comes back super fast after initial removal. The problem is that now when I floss the gums bleed and get tender.

Has anyone been in this situation and through persistent flossing and mouth rinses completely cured themselves of easily bleeding gums?

 

[CalebRockeT]

Much like you, for the majority of my life (I'm 32) I would only floss if I had a massive chunk of food in my teeth that wouldn't come out. I also haven't been to a dentist in a very long time. The last time was maybe when I was around 18-20 and I felt like they really botched a filling, by drilling way too deep, causing extreme discomfort for a long period of time afterwards. I really need to get over it and start going again, but I'm apprehensive because of how expensive I'm expecting it will be.

Anyways, a few months ago a dental hygienist friend gave me a sample of cocofloss. Per their website, "Cocofloss is a super-cleansing, high performance dental floss. Its microfiber filaments are designed to scrub your pearly whites refreshingly clean. Coconut oil invigorates your smile. Subtle fruit hints relax and delight. It's floss paradise." In addition to coconut flavor they have orange, mint and strawberry. I was so impressed by how well it ripped food from deep in my gum line that I bought a couple month supply and have added flossing to my bedtime routine.

For a couple weeks it wasn't uncommon for my gums to bleed, sometimes quite heavily, if went a little too hard or deep into my gums. The longer I continued to floss daily, though, the less and less bleeding occurred. Now it's extremely rarely that they bleed at all.

My bedtime oral hygiene routine is as follows: 1) clean tongue with scraper, 2) floss with cocofloss using a very deliberate c-shape technique to clean as much plaque and bacteria off my teeth as possible, 3) brush my teeth, gum line and tongue for 2-4 minutes, and 4) rinse and gargle with Listerine. In the mornings I only do 1 and 3.

If you're consistent, I would imagine you'll definitely see progress in a very short period of time. Good luck!

 

[lsd]

You will need to have periodontal scaling done if you want your gums to heal. Flossing cant remove the hard scale and years of build up.
I had this done twice in the past 7 years and along with daily flossing my gums have healed but I can't say they are cured. I believe once you have periodontits you will always have it.

 

[mike8675309]

For most people (not all) if you don't have regular cleaning with dental equipment you will build up plaque. This tends to build up low on the tooth causing the gums to pull away from the tooth. this allows bacteria to grow around the gums and tooth which leads to a white blood cell reaction. This inflames the gums making them more likely to bleed when they rub on the rough surfaces of the plaques. The only way to remove the plaques that i am aware of us to use a steel scraper on the tooth surface to pop the plaque off. Dentists have tools that drive water at ultrasonic speeds against the plaque which will often break it away from the tooth. That along with manual tools can get down to the base of the tooth. Depending on how damaged the gums are and how deep the pocket, they may need to place a time release antibiotic in the pocket. Otherwise they will often prescribe a mouth wash that is anti-bacterial for 6 months.

 

[purbeast0]

I had this for years. I could close my mouth and suck from the back of my cheeks where my teeth meet my cheeks, and I could spit out blood. I went for my cleaning every 6 months regularly, but was kind of iffy with flossing after a couple months after my cleanings. I never really have cavities either.

Then I got an electric toothbrush based on my dentists recommendation and about a week or two later, it stopped. And I've never had it happen since. That was about 3 years ago.

 

[pcgeek11]

Once you have it it never goes away completely. You can however stay on top of it with laser surgery with a periodontist, flossing and regular dentist visits.

Or stand by to loose your teeth.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

I've been flossing really regularly for two weeks now and there isn't any bleeding.

Would it be fair to say that my peridontitis and gingivitis is cured?

 

[pcgeek11]

I've been flossing really regularly for two weeks now and there isn't any bleeding.

Would it be fair to say that my peridontitis and gingivitis is cured?

No.
You will need regular dentist visits and cleanings. Do you have pockets around the gum tissue deeper than 3 - 4 mm if so you will probably need surgery sooner or later to reduce these so you can maintain them with floss. Floss will not go down deeper than about 3 - 4 mm.

 

[sabphi]

Hello, yes believe it or not you can cure gum disease. I struggled with periodontal disease for over 30 years. I was told there is nothing I can do, I received the bacteria from my parents. I was told just go for 3 month cleaning that they prescribed periostat. Well in the last year my gum pockets went from 4-6 (at this level for over 10 years) to 2-3. How did I do it? I changed my cleaning technique. In fact, dentist cleaning had very little to do with it, my last cleaning was over 8 month due to a job loss. Not sure which part of my routine made a difference, but the following is what worked for me in a year without any expensive periodontal treatment:

- 1st rinse mouth for 30 seconds - Listerine Zero Mouth wash (pick one without sugar and antibacterial). Then I flossed with the mouthwash in my mouth.
- Brushed teeth and gums with Crest Pro Health tooth paste oral B rotating head. I threw away my sonic care that the dentist suggested. Initially I used Crest Gingivitis tooth paste, but the medical ingredients of Pro Health are better and it is less expensive.
- Then with the toothpaste in my mouth I used an interdental brush.
- No rinsing or mouthwash afterward.
- In the morning I just brushed with Oral B, Crest Pro Health and used the interdental brush again when I woke and before eating.
- That its.

Sharing, as I struggled for many years with dentist telling me there was nothing I could do. This worked amazingly in 2020 and I continue it today. My dentist is amazed at 57, that my gums have improved so much.

 

[daveybrat]

Hello, yes believe it or not you can cure gum disease. I struggled with periodontal disease for over 30 years. I was told there is nothing I can do, I received the bacteria from my parents. I was told just go for 3 month cleaning that they prescribed periostat. Well in the last year my gum pockets went from 4-6 (at this level for over 10 years) to 2-3. How did I do it? I changed my cleaning technique. In fact, dentist cleaning had very little to do with it, my last cleaning was over 8 month due to a job loss. Not sure which part of my routine made a difference, but the following is what worked for me in a year without any expensive periodontal treatment:

- 1st rinse mouth for 30 seconds - Listerine Zero Mouth wash (pick one without sugar and antibacterial). Then I flossed with the mouthwash in my mouth.
- Brushed teeth and gums with Crest Pro Health tooth paste oral B rotating head. I threw away my sonic care that the dentist suggested. Initially I used Crest Gingivitis tooth paste, but the medical ingredients of Pro Health are better and it is less expensive.
- Then with the toothpaste in my mouth I used an interdental brush.
- No rinsing or mouthwash afterward.
- In the morning I just brushed with Oral B, Crest Pro Health and used the interdental brush again when I woke and before eating.
- That its.

Sharing, as I struggled for many years with dentist telling me there was nothing I could do. This worked amazingly in 2020 and I continue it today. My dentist is amazed at 57, that my gums have improved so much.

Finally, a necro that actually adds to the thread! Welcome to the forums sbphi.

 

[Torn Mind]

I should have ventured here four-five years ago but I was not active here at all for years. Perio is nasty and I should have went to the dentist four years ago when I got my first gum infection. It was “painless yet debilitating”. Lymph nodes swollen, fatigued badly, had gum swelling but no pain, but I brushed it off after my immune system fought it off. I was constantly fatigued and blood always came out of my mouth every morning.

I have come to believe commercial antiseptic mouthwash is ultimately a sham and that home-prepared baking soda mouthwash is superior. This should be combined with a brushing session with baking soda along with another brushing session with regular toothpaste. I

Baking soda is a weak base, so it raises pH to levels favorable for beneficial bacteria. It also neutralizes acidic foods like vinegar, citric acid, pasta.
It breaks up materials upon lengthened exposure, including biofilms.
Does not have alcohol, which dehydrates the gums .
It’s cheaper and EBT eligible. $1 a box or less.

I tried implementing a dietary change of only meats and greens with no sweets or carbs but it seems my body is indeed an addict to carbs and creamy sweet deserts although not nasty shit like Ho-Hos, those are too sweet. I cracked and managed to binge carb foods like a crazy mofo on certain days. Waterpik has bailed me out numerous times. Weight is of no concern to me at six feet and one hundred twenty pounds but anyone who dares argue carbs and sugar do not contribute to excessive eating and the subsequent weight gain are living in a fantasy land made by false gurus.

 

[shortylickens]

My father used Listerine his entire adult life.
He never had one oral problem.