anyone had any luck with e-cigs?

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rudeguy

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I tried the Blucigs and didn't mind them but I think I got too low of a nicotine content. I tried ordering the stronger ones but they are OOS.

Can someone point me towards a strong menthol e-cig?
 

effowe

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I don't want this to come off as a lecture, but it might. I have successfully quit and started again almost 10 times in the past
5 years. Quitting isn't the hard part, not starting again is. I have never tried e-cigarettes, but from my understanding they
supply you with nicotine and you basically treat them like cigarettes. I am going to tell you what worked for me..

I have done the patch 5-7 times by now. It works as far as cessation is concerned. I am not strong enough to go cold turkey,
and it helps me taper off my addiction. The mental addiction, however, is still there. I suppose this is where e-cigarettes
come into play. You are able to keep your hands occupied while supplying your body with the nicotine that it wants. I'm not
against this, but I think it's perpetuating the problem.

You are so used to holding a cigarette in your hand during so many situations (driving, after a meal, when you wake up, before
you go to bed, etc..) that you become accustomed to it. This is why I think the e-cigarettes have gained such popularity. They
allow people to continue their mental habits, while still feeding their physical addictions. One of the hardest parts of quitting
is disassociating cigarettes with every aspect of your lifestyle. If you continue to keep the same routine while using "fake"
smokes, you aren't really quitting. This is why I feel the patch weening method worked well for me.

The second way I quit was with Chantix. This is Doctor prescribed, and it basically makes you feel sick when you think about
smoking. This also works, but it has side effects (suicidal thoughts, anxiousness, etc..) that some people experience. I was
able to quit just fine on it, but like I said, I started again.

I know I'm rambling here, but the fact of the matter is: if you don't want to quit smoking, you never will. I have quit so
many times, but have started again when I was stressed, or when I was inebriated, or whenever some other trigger made me want
a smoke. You really need to make an agreement with yourself that you are done with cigarettes. I have used the two methods I
mentioned to help my physical addiction, but the mental one is still something that sticks with you. If you are following the
same habits with e-cigarettes that you were with regular ones, I feel you are more likely to just buy a pack and get the real
satisfaction.

I am now on 7 weeks without a cigarette, but I take it day by day. I wish you luck.
 

xSauronx

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I am not strong enough to go cold turkey,
and it helps me taper off my addiction. The mental addiction, however, is still there. I suppose this is where e-cigarettes
come into play. You are able to keep your hands occupied while supplying your body with the nicotine that it wants. I'm not

My grandparents dealt with this by buying bags of sugar-free suckers, my uncle kept a small box of toothpicks in his pocket. both for the same reason: they just had an itch to do something with their hands but did NOT want it to be a cigarette
 

effowe

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My grandparents dealt with this by buying bags of sugar-free suckers, my uncle kept a small box of toothpicks in his pocket. both for the same reason: they just had an itch to do something with their hands but did NOT want it to be a cigarette

I am a gum fiend now. I buy the Eclipse 60 packs of gum and chew them constantly. If I'm not drinking water / coffee during the day, I'm chewing gum. As far as the hands are concerned, you just need to re-learn things to do with them. Whether that be posting long anti-smoking diatribes on internet forums, or playing video games, or doing dishes, as long as they're occupied, you aren't concerned.
 

Rage187

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I am a gum fiend now. I buy the Eclipse 60 packs of gum and chew them constantly. If I'm not drinking water / coffee during the day, I'm chewing gum. As far as the hands are concerned, you just need to re-learn things to do with them. Whether that be posting long anti-smoking diatribes on internet forums, or playing video games, or doing dishes, as long as they're occupied, you aren't concerned.


I'm a nicotine gum fiend. 6 pieces a day. I haven't smoked in 7 years but started chewing the gum last year.
 

Kwatt

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I tried the Blucigs and didn't mind them but I think I got too low of a nicotine content. I tried ordering the stronger ones but they are OOS.

Can someone point me towards a strong menthol e-cig?


I am on day five with a nicotine inhalator 18mg.
While I have not given up cigs (yet?). It has certainly cut the number of regular cigs
by about 75-80 %. I started with one on tue. morning and I have smoked less in the past four days than I did just on mon.

Sorry I can not help with the menthol as I have not tried any yet. I do have some just have not got to it.


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bobdole369

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Don't use nicotine at all. It's impossible to "wean" yourself off of it. Cold turkey is the only way to surely quit. 9 months now. It's only 72 hours of hell then it starts to get better. You can do it.
 

effowe

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Don't use nicotine at all. It's impossible to "wean" yourself off of it. Cold turkey is the only way to surely quit. 9 months now. It's only 72 hours of hell then it starts to get better. You can do it.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here, because I've done it personally and it has helped me reduce the cravings. I've also done cold turkey and gone through the withdrawl cold sweats and shakes trying to sleep. Cold turkey is not the only way, it's the way you've done it and it works for people, but don't disregard another method because you haven't done it.
 

gorcorps

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I don't want this to come off as a lecture, but it might. I have successfully quit and started again almost 10 times in the past
5 years. Quitting isn't the hard part, not starting again is. I have never tried e-cigarettes, but from my understanding they
supply you with nicotine and you basically treat them like cigarettes. I am going to tell you what worked for me..

I have done the patch 5-7 times by now. It works as far as cessation is concerned. I am not strong enough to go cold turkey,
and it helps me taper off my addiction. The mental addiction, however, is still there. I suppose this is where e-cigarettes
come into play. You are able to keep your hands occupied while supplying your body with the nicotine that it wants. I'm not
against this, but I think it's perpetuating the problem.

You are so used to holding a cigarette in your hand during so many situations (driving, after a meal, when you wake up, before
you go to bed, etc..) that you become accustomed to it. This is why I think the e-cigarettes have gained such popularity. They
allow people to continue their mental habits, while still feeding their physical addictions. One of the hardest parts of quitting
is disassociating cigarettes with every aspect of your lifestyle. If you continue to keep the same routine while using "fake"
smokes, you aren't really quitting. This is why I feel the patch weening method worked well for me.

The second way I quit was with Chantix. This is Doctor prescribed, and it basically makes you feel sick when you think about
smoking. This also works, but it has side effects (suicidal thoughts, anxiousness, etc..) that some people experience. I was
able to quit just fine on it, but like I said, I started again.

I know I'm rambling here, but the fact of the matter is: if you don't want to quit smoking, you never will. I have quit so
many times, but have started again when I was stressed, or when I was inebriated, or whenever some other trigger made me want
a smoke. You really need to make an agreement with yourself that you are done with cigarettes. I have used the two methods I
mentioned to help my physical addiction, but the mental one is still something that sticks with you. If you are following the
same habits with e-cigarettes that you were with regular ones, I feel you are more likely to just buy a pack and get the real
satisfaction.

I am now on 7 weeks without a cigarette, but I take it day by day. I wish you luck.

No offense (well maybe a little) but the majority of this post is just plain stupid. You can't successfully quit, only to start again... quitting by definition is not doing something again. All you've done is unsuccessfully TRIED to quit 10 or so times. The maximum amount of times you can successfully quit something is once, and that means you've never started again. As soon as you start, you've just failed to quit
 

effowe

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No offense (well maybe a little) but the majority of this post is just plain stupid. You can't successfully quit, only to start again... quitting by definition is not doing something again. All you've done is unsuccessfully TRIED to quit 10 or so times. The maximum amount of times you can successfully quit something is once, and that means you've never started again. As soon as you start, you've just failed to quit

I'm well aware of this. It's a struggle and I assume you have never done this, otherwise you could relate to what I am saying. I'm not arguing semantics here, I'm relaying my experience. No shit I failed, but that is what people go through trying to reach their goal: to be free of the addiction.
 

bobdole369

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I'm going to have to disagree with you here, because I've done it personally and it has helped me reduce the cravings. I've also done cold turkey and gone through the withdrawl cold sweats and shakes trying to sleep. Cold turkey is not the only way, it's the way you've done it and it works for people, but don't disregard another method because you haven't done it.

I really don't know anyone else who stays quit using anything but just stopping. If you can't deal with 3 days of withdrawals, you are weak and pathetic. E-Cigs, nicotine replacement and anything like it (this excludes chantix and other antidepressants of course), but anything that continues to feed you nicotine is exactly the same as continuing to smoke. The way nicotine works in your brain is not at all like anything else.

Just a little bit will reset your withdrawal timer. So you are just prolonging the inevitable. Refusing to deal with them is silly. Withdrawals do not get weaker. Your brain changes and every time more nicotine goes in - more receptors and thus more withdrawal potential builds.

I'm not personally attacking anyone, just stating what my personal research, and that of those who I know that are quit, and have stayed that way have discovered.
 

effowe

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Nov 1, 2004
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I really don't know anyone else who stays quit using anything but just stopping. If you can't deal with 3 days of withdrawals, you are weak and pathetic. E-Cigs, nicotine replacement and anything like it (this excludes chantix and other antidepressants of course), but anything that continues to feed you nicotine is exactly the same as continuing to smoke. The way nicotine works in your brain is not at all like anything else.

Just a little bit will reset your withdrawal timer. So you are just prolonging the inevitable. Refusing to deal with them is silly. Withdrawals do not get weaker. Your brain changes and every time more nicotine goes in - more receptors and thus more withdrawal potential builds.

I'm not personally attacking anyone, just stating what my personal research, and that of those who I know that are quit, and have stayed that way have discovered.

Like I said, I've done it before and it is not a good experience. How can you say you are not personally attacking anyone when you say that if you can't deal with a 3 day withdrawal you are weak and pathetic? Do you not see the hypocrisy in that statement?

We all deal with these things in our own ways. Just because you were successful with your method does NOT mean that anyone else will be. You are looking down on others as lesser than you because they can't live up to your standards.

Not everyone is going to have the same quitting experience as you, and you shouldn't hold them to those standards. People struggle with this for years and are still not successful. You are the classic example of the reformed smoker who looks down on everyone who still smokes. "Oh, it was so easy for me, why can't you do it?"

Step back, realize we cope with our addictions in different ways. Some people are successful, some people are not. Get off your high horse, having an addiction is something that people have to deal with. If you have lived through this sort of thing, you shouldn't ostracize others who are addicted.
 
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TwiceOver

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What do you mean by "luck"? As in "Gee I'm lucky this NRT variation has MADE me quit smoking"? If so, you are on the wrong track entirely.
 

shortylickens

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In my last game the Crazy ran out of e-clips and had to borrow from the Juicer. He was so fucking pissed but couldnt do shit lol.
 

Kyle

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I really don't know anyone else who stays quit using anything but just stopping. If you can't deal with 3 days of withdrawals, you are weak and pathetic. E-Cigs, nicotine replacement and anything like it (this excludes chantix and other antidepressants of course), but anything that continues to feed you nicotine is exactly the same as continuing to smoke. The way nicotine works in your brain is not at all like anything else.

Just a little bit will reset your withdrawal timer. So you are just prolonging the inevitable. Refusing to deal with them is silly. Withdrawals do not get weaker. Your brain changes and every time more nicotine goes in - more receptors and thus more withdrawal potential builds.

I'm not personally attacking anyone, just stating what my personal research, and that of those who I know that are quit, and have stayed that way have discovered.



I've talked to thousands of people in all stages of quitting- CT is by *far* the least successfull not only quitting, but staying quit.

(and yes, I've quit using the nicotine gum and haven't smoked in 8 years or so)

I know we've had this argument in the past, so I'll leave it at that....but please don't discourage people from trying differnt proven cessation methods (note- not talking about the ecig here)
There's a reason medication is recommended in the US Public Health Clinical Practice Guidelines when it pertains to quitting smoking...
 
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us3rnotfound

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I've talked to thousands of people in all stages of quitting- CT is by *far* the least successfull not only quitting, but staying quit.

(and yes, I've quit using the nicotine gum and haven't smoked in 8 years or so)

I know we've had this argument in the past, so I'll leave it at that....but please don't discourage people from trying differnt proven cessation methods (note- not talking about the ecig here)
There's a reason medication is recommended in the US Public Health Clinical Practice Guidelines when it pertains to quitting smoking...

Biased survey, those who talk are still trying to quit using some bullshit product like nicotine replacements.

Those who quit CT don't even consider tobacco anymore so why would they go take some stupid survey?

Like Bob Dole said, CT is the only way for you to stop your addiction to nicotine.

The fuck, the definition of quitting an action is never doing that action again. Why would you put yourself through a gentle step-down cycle? Man up and just quit.
 

Heller

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my thread got locked so I guess I'll bump this - anyone recommend any brands of e-cigs?

I used a $100 version ia friend bought in the mall, there all the same. If you still find the need to puff on a fake cig, then just buy a pack of smokes man, your obviously not ready to quit.
 
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I used a $100 version ia friend bought in the mall, there all the same. If you still find the need to puff on a fake cig, then just buy a pack of smokes man, your obviously not ready to quit.

I'm NOT ready to quit, that's why I want to buy an e-cig ;) Though I appreciate you attempt to lecture me on the matter - why are non-smokers so smug?
 
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