Anyone ever been to a cockfight?

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Brutuskend

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Cockfighting is a barbaric blood sport that has no place in civilized society; it is illegal everywhere in the United States except for Louisiana and a very small part of New Mexico.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Funny how ATOT would call watching chickens kill each other so inhumane and wrong.. but make fun of vegans for thinking slaughtering animals for food is wrong.
Either way, I'm pretty sure the only reason this is illegal is because it involves gambling, which is generally illegal as it screws up people's lives and causes violence.

Killing animals for food is generally done quickly and humanely. Even hunters make every attempt to dispatch their prey as quickly as possible. Cockfights are far from quick. Nor are they natural. Sure, some animals will fight to the death. But, those animals aren't outfitted with extra equipment to be able to carry out the task. Quite simply, cockfighting is a barbaric blood sport and has no place in our society.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Funny how ATOT would call watching chickens kill each other so inhumane and wrong.. but make fun of vegans for thinking slaughtering animals for food is wrong.
Either way, I'm pretty sure the only reason this is illegal is because it involves gambling, which is generally illegal as it screws up people's lives and causes violence.

Killing animals for food is generally done quickly and humanely. Even hunters make every attempt to dispatch their prey as quickly as possible. Cockfights are far from quick. Nor are they natural. Sure, some animals will fight to the death. But, those animals aren't outfitted with extra equipment to be able to carry out the task. Quite simply, cockfighting is a barbaric blood sport and has no place in our society.

Only except the killing part isn't the most painful part. Imagine living your entire life in a room jam packed with people to the point where you can't move, and then covered in everyone's fecal matter, where you stay there your entire life, pumped up with drugs until you die. It sure sounds like dying is the best part of the livestock, the point where their suffering is ended. Livestock factories isn't exactly a resort. Not exactly comparable to the hunting argument you brought up. Comparing them is like comparing heaven to hell.
Animals generally don't need to be outfitted with extra equipment. Evolution has given it to them. And even then, it's probably a quicker and painful death with the equipment than without. I'd rather be killed swiftly by a sharp blade than to be slowly pecked to death by 100 cocks.
But just think about it, if you were a cock.. which would you rather be: livestock, where you live your entire life covered in fecal matter, packed where you can't move; or as a cockfighter, where you are peppered tender care, well fed, groomed, bathed, given a carefully maintained diet with special formulaic foods, all while having the chance to live if you're strong enough to win the fight.
If anything, the latter seems far less cruel.
 

uberman

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Yes, I've been to a cockfight in a small town in the state of Jalisco, Mexico. The fight is over in two minutes. The action is in the betting which takes place thirty to forty minutes before the fight. Fairly mundane, a two minute fight. I believe someone should see something like this just to know such things take place. A bullfight is interesting also. I pass no judgement on things like this which are so firmly rooted in someone's culture.

Having been a farmer and rancher I'm not fond of killing animals without a specific purpose except in the following case: A neighbor had a rooster she raised that changed its habits. As it got older it would strut about, and sink it's talons into her head while flapping its wings. She complained that it would attack her. I would've put that rooster in a frying pan in three seconds.
 

waitman

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Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
I'm sure your friends "loophole" would work in court :roll:

How about you and your buddies fight each other and let the chickens watch.
I don't understand your logic. It's just a bunch of men who are passionate about cocks meeting in a hot environment - who are you to predict what's going to happen?


It's just a bunch of men who are passionate about cocks meeting in a hot environment..... WTF!:Q:confused::frown:
 

Robor

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I had the opportunity to attend one in Manila this past June but I turned it down. Just not something I think I'd be into.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
I'm sure your friends "loophole" would work in court :roll:

How about you and your buddies fight each other and let the chickens watch.

Best idea so far.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Roosters aren't the only animals that fight to the death. But it'd be crazy for me to expect you to think of that considering how narrow visioned you are.

They are, however, the animals being discussed in this thread, and as it happens, they don't fight to the death in nature. Fighting cocks are bred for aggression, and equipped with spurs to make them capable of killing one another.

Are you by any chance not a native speaker of English? I don't want to get into a whole argument with you if your dispute hinges on a simple language barrier. I take it from your use of language you might not be, and I don't mean to pick on that.

So by what you just said, you would be implying that cockfighting would be ok so long as they naturally fight to the death anyways. Are you by any chance, not first nature to logic?
BTW I just dug this up on google.
Devoted to finding a mate to the very end, the males occasionally fight to the death trying to win the adulations of a female.
Not exactly the same species, but a similar type of animal.

Kid, you have brought your fists to a gun fight. You are seriously over-matched here. Quit while you are only an idiot. Not a pathetic one.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Ok, my friend tells me that there's a bit of a loop hole. He says him and a bunch of people that have pet roosters go to a meet. Two of them will walk around in a circle and if the roosters start fighting then they back off because it's too dangerous to intervene. I think this is what makes it legal.

That would be like saying I put my fist out and you just happened to run into it. Seriously, it's illegal and a disturbing practice.
There's nothing illegal or disturbing about freedom. If you don't like it, fine, mind your own business.
By your logic, I am free to follow you around with a big sign that says, "JonTheBaller is a big douche" and if you don't like it - too bad - mind your business...
 
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Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Ok, my friend tells me that there's a bit of a loop hole. He says him and a bunch of people that have pet roosters go to a meet. Two of them will walk around in a circle and if the roosters start fighting then they back off because it's too dangerous to intervene. I think this is what makes it legal.


yeah, good luck with that.
 

randay

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All the people arguing here that killing animals for food is the same as forcing two animals to fight each other and kill each other by attaching weapons onto them can go sit on a big, fat, green, cucumber.
 

JonTheBaller

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An illegal immigrant may or may not have gotten stabbed. I left early so I don't know what actually happened but I'm never going back.
 

frankgomez75

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yeah, i just saw this thread and if I had seen it earlier would have warned you that being its an illegal sport with illegal gambling and lots of shady ppl who bet hundreds of dollars.... might not be the safest place to be. Unless you like living dangerously and foolish, you'd best stay away from any events like cockfight, pitbull fighting, etc....

Its inhumane, bloody, and very dangerous. People get shot and stabbed over heated disputes and such.
 

JulesMaximus

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So, how was the cock fight? How did your cock do anyway?

Did you put $10 on your cock for me like I asked you to?