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Originally posted by: dainthomas
People who work huge hours out of some sense of loyalty and dedication to their company make me laugh. Your company has no loyalty or dedication to you and would happily dump your ass for any or no reason.

at the same time, when they're looking to free up some money, who are they going to look at to fire? the guy who does a good job and always goes above and beyond when it's needed or the guy who does a good job but punches out at 5 on the dot every day and always leaves work in progress for his coworkers to clean up in the evening?
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
People who work huge hours out of some sense of loyalty and dedication to their company make me laugh. Your company has no loyalty or dedication to you and would happily dump your ass for any or no reason.

I was just about to post this. With company loyalty being what it is these days, I'm not sure how much extra time I would be willing to put into a job, given that the company wouldn't hesitate to start cutting people if they needed to save some money.
 
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: zerocool84
The reason why 99% of people don't finish things in time is because or poor time management.

do you know a faster way to inbreed 18 lines of fruit flies over 5 generations, when each generation takes ~30-33 days?

Seriously, I'd really like to know 🙁

Hello Mr. 1%
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: zerocool84
The reason why 99% of people don't finish things in time is because or poor time management.

do you know a faster way to inbreed
Seriously, I'd really like to know 🙁

Go to the South.

I'm from the south. We don't inbreed as much as you'd like to think.

....I'd say only ~24% of us.


and 98% of that is isolated to West Virginia.
 
what do you do for a living?

When I was in public accounting, I was working 60-70 hour work weeks, and then I'd do more work at home on the Sunday. I was a workaholic.

Now I'm working 45 hour work weeks. I come home in time to grill and smoke a cigar.
 
Originally posted by: datalink7
Remember, there is ALWAYS more work to do (unless you work someplace like McDonalds).

At some point you just cut yourself off and go home and leave it for tommorow.

Yeah something like this.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Yes. I'm salaried, senior associate at a Big 4 accounting firm. I definitely work past regular hours. Trying to work a bit more tonight but will likely fall asleep on top of my laptop.

People who are fond of saying "it's all poor time management" either don't work in the same industry or are at a higher level and have conveniently forgotten what it's like to be a grunt. I work for a woman who loves to say that, then continues to pile on more and more work.

I used to be this way as well, but then I learned some important lessons (the hard way):

1. Life is far more important than work. I can always find another job, but I can't ever live another life or have that time back.

2. Companies will string you along with promises of career advancement, etc. but in the end, they have no loyalty to you and in many cases, if you are REALLY good at what you do, you are going to be stuck in your current position because of it.

This is long, but allow me to give you a real life example:

I worked for a major North American industrial gases company, in a global IT group. I managed the entire global infrastructure and that included trips away from home for 2 to 3 weeks at a time, project management for global initiatives, etc. I worked hard and worked long hours and got great reviews and good raises, but I always had a carrot dangled in front of me. Guess what? I never caught the carrot and while I did get a lot of great experience, my quality of life suffered tremendously.

To make a long story short, there was a corporate IT "restructuring" and I was given a choice. I could either "interview" for a position at the global headquarters (I worked at the headquarters of one of the subsidiaries) in Danbury, CT or I could stay at my location and become an "Oracle Analyst." All my long hours, hard work, and top reviews (I ALWAYS got the highest review score) did nothing but buy me a chance to "interview" for a job at our corporate HQ or take a demotion. So much for wanting to retain talent.

I'm sure you can guess how I responded to that choice. Fortunately, I could tell something was wrong months in advance by how management was acting so I started looking. So, while I was in the process of finalizing my deal with a new company, I strung them along and ensured the transition period to the new IT organization would last until I had the signed job offer and could give the old company my final decision and then quit. Turnabout is fair play, and I will tell you it was easily the smartest and best decision I made.

I couldn't be happier. I work normal hours, have far better benefits, and the work environment isn't toxic like the last company.

Cliffs:
1. Life is more important than work.
2. Companies will string you along and will likely screw you over in the end.
3. Real life example -- previous company sucked, told them to get lost, and left.
4. Lived happily ever after and laugh at people who stayed at old company.



 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Yes. I'm salaried, senior associate at a Big 4 accounting firm. I definitely work past regular hours. Trying to work a bit more tonight but will likely fall asleep on top of my laptop.

People who are fond of saying "it's all poor time management" either don't work in the same industry or are at a higher level and have conveniently forgotten what it's like to be a grunt. I work for a woman who loves to say that, then continues to pile on more and more work.

yeah, my gf turned down good money at deloitte. She saw everyone work stay till 10 at night when she interned there. She said no f'n way. She makes almost half now of what they offered her at this big software company that could not care less about their accounants. She doe snot care though, because she atleast has a life.

I wish I had her point of view with my current job. The potential for money is awesome and that is all i thought about. The more I stay here, though, the more I say, "fvck no". I always see and hear about all my associates taking work home. My boss always comes in at 7 and leaves at 6:30 only to continue work at home. The other senior guy is always talking about how he finished stuff over the weekend. Everyone, except me, works past 60 hours a week. Eventually, to stayed meployed, I know I eventually will have to do the same. I hope this job market gets better🙁
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: dainthomas
People who work huge hours out of some sense of loyalty and dedication to their company make me laugh. Your company has no loyalty or dedication to you and would happily dump your ass for any or no reason.

at the same time, when they're looking to free up some money, who are they going to look at to fire? the guy who does a good job and always goes above and beyond when it's needed or the guy who does a good job but punches out at 5 on the dot every day and always leaves work in progress for his coworkers to clean up in the evening?

Unfortunately, it usually ends up being the person who doesn't kiss ass that ends up getting the boot, not the worst employee.

I will work past hours if something is urgently needed. But I have learned to ask about the true urgency as most times it ends up being something that would be nice to have versus something that is truely needed.
 
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