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Midwayman

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I feel like GPUs have been very stagnant in pref/$ since mining became a big thing. I have a 1080, which is over 3 years old now. Still nothing out there for a reasonable price that is a substantial upgrade. Maybe once nvidia jumps to 10nm or lower we'll see more interesting stuff. If you were on a lower end card there are more options.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Though not a perfect analogy look at the auto industry. At my age (68) I remember as a youngster people traded in for a new car every 3-4 years because the price of cars was 2 to 4 thousand dollars. Now?

Good lord a mid size SUV is @$40, 000 so you keep your car 5 to 10 years (probably closer to 10 than 5).
Good Lord, a whole HOUSE used to be $15,000-$25,000.
 

Shmee

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I am sitting out for now, still on the 1080Ti. Will likely go for the next Navi card if it is considerably faster.
 

CU

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Wish I had got a 1080 TI before the mining started. That card seems like the 2500K of GPU's. Right now I have a 7950 Pro. Would like to get a 5700 XT in a few months.
 
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guachi

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The AIB models of 5700XT will be in the $430-450 range which reduces its value compared to the 2070S founder's at 500. Both cards are still good buys at their respective price points but AMD should ensure there's atleast some AIB non blower models at $400.

Absolutely.

If an AIB 5700XT is $450 then (barring no performance gains) the 2070S will be 7-10% faster in 4k for 11% more. That's a fair deal that's probably worth it. *If* there is no performance change then you probably just get aesthetic differences (RGB, fancier shroud) and a quieter card, so that's at least something for the AMD card.

At 1440 the 5700XT is still better, though. 11% more for 3-4% better performance isn't really meaningful.

I'd love a simple AIB axial fan 5700XT for $410-$420 if it's reasonably cool and quiet. I don't need RGB. I don't need anything fancy. I just want an upgraded cooling solution.
 

Avalon

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I'm waiting for custom Navi cards to come out. Hoping for a non-OC Sapphire Pulse 5700XT for $400-$410. Upgraded my monitor last month to a Nixeus EDG27. Great monitor, but jumping from 1200p to 1440p is killing some of my games :D
 

Shamrock

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The AIB models of 5700XT will be in the $430-450 range which reduces its value compared to the 2070S founder's at 500. Both cards are still good buys at their respective price points but AMD should ensure there's atleast some AIB non blower models at $400.

Nope, same price as reference cards
 

BenSkywalker

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The NES debuted at $180 with the console, ROB the robot, a zapper gun, two controllers and two games. Now consoles are $500 with no games, no robot, no zapper and one controller and this is ok.

Voodoo SLI, the high end when it launched, cost $600 and you needed another graphics card in your computer to do anything in 2d, if you wanted to decode MPEG2 video you'd need another board for that too, all in you were looking at roughly $850. Now the high end cost $1200 nothing extra required.

I can understand the general sentiment, but compared to almost anything else, the inflation we've seen has been very mild.
 

CakeMonster

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Want me to buy the next gen? Somebody make a monitor between 1440p and 4K resolution. 4K is still not acceptable performance and won't be with another 25% performance. 1440p is too little vertical resolution for everything but games.

Before that happens I'll stick to my 1600p 60hz setup with possibly a 1440p 144hz secondary gaming monitor.

There's no motivation whatsoever for me to upgrade. I'd take a 1700/1800p 16:10 or 16:9 monitor with 100hz+ and *sync but nobody is making one.
 
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gdansk

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If Nvidia ups the prices again with the 3000 series, I think I'll skip it. It's simply not worth it and what better way to show it than avoiding purchases. When Intel is our only hope for revitalization of the market you know things have gone awry.

Want me to buy the next gen? Somebody make a monitor between 1440p and 4K resolution. 4K is still not acceptable performance and won't be with another 25% performance. 1440p is too little vertical resolution for everything but games.

Before that happens I'll stick to my 1600p 60hz setup with possibly a 1440p 144hz secondary gaming monitor.

There's no motivation whatsoever for me to upgrade. I'd take a 1700/1800p 16:10 or 16:9 monitor with 100hz+ and *sync but nobody is making one.
I have a 3840x2160 144Hz with *sync. But personally I think it is too low resolution, 5120x2880 would be ideal in my opinion. Obviously, we'd need a lot more performance for that to work well for games but many games have "resolution scale" options if needed. And these days I find that I play games less and less anyway.
 

RadiclDreamer

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If they start costing $1000+ for the high end phones and or GPU ill find another hobby. I'll go be a console peasant before ill pay those prices.
 

mohit9206

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If they start costing $1000+ for the high end phones and or GPU ill find another hobby. I'll go be a console peasant before ill pay those prices.
You don't need hi end stuff to enjoy PC gaming though. A $200 ryzen 3600 and a $270 1660Ti is still going to give great experience.
 
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DeathReborn

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For a few weeks there was some EVGA 2080 Ti's available for near 2080 prices in the UK (£800), they did tempt me but I didn't bite. My brother did though and he is pleased as punch with it.
 

DiogoDX

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Waiting for 70-80% faster in 4K than a 1080Ti to make the jump. Like was for my 980Ti to the 1080Ti.
 
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Grooveriding

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The RTX cards were crap in providing upgrades from 1080ti outside of the 2080ti, where they jacked the price up ridiculously. RTX currently is worse than PhysX was; it's baked into the hardware, rather than a choice to use an additional stand alone card. There are 3 games that use it? Where it's better than PhysX is that it has the potential to really provide some amazing improvements in IQ that physx didn't. Looking at current performance, doubtful their next gen is even going to be enough to get it playable and allow the feature to be used heavily though. Probably be the gen following their next that makes it possible to actually use ray tracing robustly. Then game devs will geton board because there is an actual user base out there with the hardware to make it playable, plus the new consoles will have it, so we can expect AMD to have it in their discreet cards as well. Ray tracing is not going anywhere, there just is not sufficient hardware for it right now. No interest in paying nvidia a $500 additional tax to beta test for them.

First time I skipped an nvidia generation. I paid the tax on the last gen Titan Xp. Not paying Titan prices for a ti card, with a main feature that is all but useless. If they jack the prices again next gen, I'll sit that out too. Nvidia finally turned me off with their price hikes. They provided nowhere near enough of a performance hike in 2080ti for the price tag. It was just your standard new gen 30-35% performance hike with almost double the price tag of the card it replaced. Those mythical $999 2080tis are unicorns from what I've seen, never in stock. And the new Titan is $2500... sure.

If I was on a card below a 1080ti and wanted an upgrade, I'd probably get a 2080 super. But, outside of that, just not worth it. Even more so when a 1080ti is killing every game out there still, even at higher resolutions and frame rates.

It's a gimmick right now, and once ray tracing is ready for the mainstream, it's not going to be a proprietary thing. Nvidia is trying to charge us to beta test for them.
 

Cableman

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I have a 1070 and I am enjoying my backlog of games. I have enough older games that I haven't played that I can wait out even the next round if I have to. When I get caught up with the backlog, I'll check the price/performance at the time. By then, RT will have matured and hopefully the prices will be back to normal. So thank you Nvidia for encouraging me to clear my backlog.
 
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RadiclDreamer

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I would have sat this round out too if I had a 1080ti.
I have a 1080 vanilla and im wanting to bump to 1440p but im not comfortable doing that without a bump in GPU. I dont want to drop settings to maintain a good 80-120 fps
 

BenSkywalker

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Ray tracing is not now nor has it ever been proprietary.

That is a dirty lie spread by profoundly dishonest people.

I'm not sure if AMD paid people to spread that lie or if it's people acting on their own dishonest interests but ray tracing is, in no way imaginable, proprietary.
 

Glo.

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Ray tracing is not now nor has it ever been proprietary.

That is a dirty lie spread by profoundly dishonest people.

I'm not sure if AMD paid people to spread that lie or if it's people acting on their own dishonest interests but ray tracing is, in no way imaginable, proprietary.
So now we equate RTX with Ray Tracing?

To your information RTX tech IS proprietary. Ray Tracing is not. And right now, who offers the only RTX GPUs on the market? Hence why currently, Ray Tracing is proprietary in gaming.