Anyone else sick of the whole Pat Tillman media frenzy?

[GoingUp]

I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Edit:

From Braveheart.

Robert: Wait! I respect what you said, but remember that these men
have lands and castles. It's much to risk.

William: And the common man who bleeds on the battlefield, does he
risk less?

 

[JC]

Yes. Apparently, only the famous dead have a face and a name.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

I was just thinking about this today when I saw the story on CNN. Stupid media.

 

[Ronstang]

Maybe this will prove to all the little sports fanatics that their heroes aren't bulletproof.

 

[waggy]

I have to agree.

While i think the guy was a true hero they are doing everything he did not want. He was just a soldier. thats all he wanted.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Maybe this will prove to all the little sports fanatics that their heroes aren't bulletproof.

:| Insensative ASSHAT :|

 

[5489]

he went to my school couple years back, and i havent heard of him until today.

 

[abracadabra1]

I think it does merit some recognition not entitled to the average soldier. Although myself and many other joined the military mostly because of a patriotic duty, there are also other factors at hand that make that decision all the easier. My family is not wealthy, so I don't have the luxury of abundance and excess. For the most part, that's true of other soldiers/sailors/marines, as well. Pat Tillman left a multi-million dollar career and just about everything any working man wants to pursue his desire for service.

This is a man who left a life of riches because of a greater calling to duty. I think that's real powerful. Pat Tillman was a man made of solid brick and conviction...I respect him greatly.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

 

[abracadabra1]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Maybe this will prove to all the little sports fanatics that their heroes aren't bulletproof.

:| Insensitive ASSHAT :|

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Maybe this will prove to all the little sports fanatics that their heroes aren't bulletproof.

:| Insensative ASSHAT :|

How is this insensitive? The statement has merit, and I think it is a little ironic when Uncle Fester starts caling people insensitive.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

But does a man who makes $19,000 a year and dies for his country sacrifice anything less than a former pro athlete who passes $3 million?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Maybe this will prove to all the little sports fanatics that their heroes aren't bulletproof.

:| Insensative ASSHAT :|

How is this insensitive? The statement has merit, and I think it is a little ironic when Uncle Fester starts caling people insensitive.

Shut your pie hole you troll.

 

[abracadabra1]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

But does a man who makes $19,000 a year and dies for his country sacrifice anything less than a former pro athlete who passes $3 million?

I think your question answers itself...yes

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

But does a man who makes $19,000 a year and dies for his country sacrifice anything less than a former pro athlete who passes $3 million?

Sure he does. Who would you say 'sacrified' more for their life, a worker in a chemical building that died in a fire, or the volunteer fireman who died trying to save people in that chemical building?

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

But does a man who makes $19,000 a year and dies for his country sacrifice anything less than a former pro athlete who passes $3 million?

Sure he does. Who would you say 'sacrified' more for their life, a worker in a chemical building that died in a fire, or the volunteer fireman who died trying to save people in that chemical building?

They both made the biggest sacrifice possible, their lives. I dont know why you think someone who can earn 3 million dollars has a life that is worth more than someone who makes only 19 grand.

 

[GoingUp]

From Braveheart.

Robert: Wait! I respect what you said, but remember that these men
have lands and castles. It's much to risk.

William: And the common man who bleeds on the battlefield, does he
risk less?

 

[NFS4]

Yes, I'm sick of it.

 

[Zebo]

While I think tillmans a hero we have a cronic case of celebrityitis in this country. Worshiping them like gods almost (as evidenced by thier bank account and thousands of shows on tv dedicated to them) and the press just gives people what they want translating into ratings.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

But does a man who makes $19,000 a year and dies for his country sacrifice anything less than a former pro athlete who passes $3 million?

Sure he does. Who would you say 'sacrified' more for their life, a worker in a chemical building that died in a fire, or the volunteer fireman who died trying to save people in that chemical building?

Yup. Just like the Doctors without boarders giving up $500K per annum saleries and working for free in afghanistan.

 

[Subzero]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

I agree 100%

That is all I have heard all day,granted anyone dying in combat is not good but christ they act like he was the only one beause he gave up a multi million dollar football contract...not cool IMO...

 

[UNCjigga]

Y'all don't get it. Its not a big deal because he's a celebrity worth millions who got killed in Afghanistan. Its a big deal (well, to me at least) because we finally have a pro sports athlete we can all look up too in this age of steroids, rape trials, and murder/murder-for-hire. He used his competitive mentality to decide he was gonna be the best at anything he did, and it helped him run marathons, triathlons, and it sure as heckfire got him through Ranger school. Yet at the same time, he never let go of his humanity, turning down a $9 million offer from the Giants because he valued his teammates and coaches more than that...turning down another contract after 9/11 so he could go fight for his country. He's a better man than I'll prolly ever be, and I can't say that for much of the people I see/hear about on TV. So let them talk about him, celebrate him, honor him, even though its probably not what he would want. He sets a good example for others to follow, period.

 

[MikeMike]

I have to say i think he earned it. i think i am about to put up a poll.

MIKE

 

[ChinamanatNCSU]

Originally posted by: Jigga
Y'all don't get it. Its not a big deal because he's a celebrity worth millions who got killed in Afghanistan. Its a big deal (well, to me at least) because we finally have a pro sports athlete we can all look up too in this age of steroids, rape trials, and murder/murder-for-hire. He used his competitive mentality to decide he was gonna be the best at anything he did, and it helped him run marathons, triathlons, and it sure as heckfire got him through Ranger school. Yet at the same time, he never let go of his humanity, turning down a $9 million offer from the Giants because he valued his teammates and coaches more than that...turning down another contract after 9/11 so he could go fight for his country. He's a better man than I'll prolly ever be, and I can't say that for much of the people I see/hear about on TV. So let them talk about him, celebrate him, honor him, even though its probably not what he would want. He sets a good example for others to follow, period.

I agree. IIRC he also refused to grant any interviews after he joined the service because he didn't want to treated differently than any other servicemen. I don't think the media hype should be this big b/c he wouldn't have wanted it, but we should definitely commend him for the man he was.

 

[UNCjigga]

And I'll say one more thing. I mean no disrespect to the men and women fighting overseas, but I would say that a good number of them enlisted because they were poor and saw it as a good way to pay for college and line them up for a better career down the road. Its quite another thing to enlist when you're already making millions of dollars and you're not expecting to get anything back from the military other than the knowledge that you are serving your country.