Anyone else sick of the whole Pat Tillman media frenzy?

[PoPPeR]

I have a great amount of respect for him. His death is being made into a big deal because of the events that occured before his death. I am not questioning the patriotism or dedication of the men and women in our armed forces, as they are fighting for our freedom, but if given the choice I think most of them, along with most of us, would not have done what Tillman did.

He wanted to be a soldier, and he died fighting for our freedom. He has done more for America then most of us can ever hope of doing because of the example that he has now set for the current generation and generations to come.

 

[rh71]

Sick of something like this when William Hung is still around ? Get that clown off the air before I bitch about a brave man going to war. Anyway, Tillman didn't ask for any of this.

 

[HOWITIS]

it matters because everyone can feel as if they know him because he was in the public eye. it hits home with more americans than some body no one has ever heard of.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: rh71
Sick of something like this when William Hung is still around ? Get that clown off the air before I bitch about a brave man going to war. Anyway, Tillman didn't ask for any of this.

Amen.

 

[JohnAn2112]

Originally posted by: 5489
he went to my school couple years back, and i havent heard of him until today.

College or high school? I went to high school with him and his brother Kevin.

 

[Spagina]

He is quite simply a real role model. Our country is money crazy, people value their whole lives on their number in their bank account. This country is leaning more and more towards selfishness and greediness, and here is someone who shattered that illusion. I don't know of any other person that gave up millions of dollars and security for a life on the front lines in armed conflict, atleast in this day and age. He is quite simply an example for everyone and a wake-up call, he went above and beyond and did it honorably. He didn't PR whore himself out, he didn't make a huge deal out of it himself.

In essence, he WAS an example of a true citizen and a hero, someone that moved past the material wealth in order to serve his country quietly, not a sign of selfishness in that at all. That's why he is being celebrated.

 

[touchmyichi]

I don't know he seemed like a good person overall as well. As I commented before in another thread, he went to my high school. My spanish teacher was talking about him on Friday. She had him, his wife, and his brother all in her class at one point (Zephyranthes and 5489- as exleland students would you know luccarotti- thats her). For me personally it holds a lot of weight due to the fact that he was a community hero in my area.

I think he serves a fine example of a traditional patriotic American, which is not as present today. It is admirable that he gave into his ideological beliefs instead of simply making loads of cash. I don't think you can find a better example of a recent hero and a admirable soldier personally.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

But does a man who makes $19,000 a year and dies for his country sacrifice anything less than a former pro athlete who passes $3 million?

Sure he does. Who would you say 'sacrified' more for their life, a worker in a chemical building that died in a fire, or the volunteer fireman who died trying to save people in that chemical building?

They both made the biggest sacrifice possible, their lives. I dont know why you think someone who can earn 3 million dollars has a life that is worth more than someone who makes only 19 grand.

you're looking at the final outcome...in the end, they both gave their lives, yes. but in the present case, people don't join the military with the EXPECTATION to die. so what you give up (at first) are the luxuries of everyday life. in the case of pat tillman, his initial sacrifice was pretty damn big. you hardly see people giving up $150,000 careers to join the military, let alone several million dollars and everything associated with the life of a pro athlete. this requires a special kind of individual, and that's the story that the media is presenting. have they taken it a little too far? maybe for some. am i sick of it? no.


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[DT4K]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: Hardcore

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm getting sick of it all. Over 700 people have died in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for our country. Who cares if they weren't professional athletes. I think the media putting this man on a pedestal because he was a former Pro football player does a great disservice to our fighting men and women. He's not any more valient than a career army man, or an army grunt making $19,000 more a year.

Your thoughts?

Sure he is. The army grunt that's making $19k a year probably chose the military because it was a job that didn't require any extraordinary skills. That's not saying what they do is any less relevant, but their sacrifice wasn't as big as his was. Alright, they sacrificed time away from their family, from a comfortable life to serve their country, and i'm sure many other reasons. But he gave up a GREAT life for the service of his country. How many people, who had money, fortune, fame, success, and a promising career, would give all that away to serve their country?

Would you give up a multimillion dollar contract to serve your country, actively joining a part of the military that is on the front lines? If you can't understand that what he did was literally 1 in 100,000, then you just don't understand the significance of his actions, so there's no point in explaining this further.

But does a man who makes $19,000 a year and dies for his country sacrifice anything less than a former pro athlete who passes $3 million?

Sure he does. Who would you say 'sacrified' more for their life, a worker in a chemical building that died in a fire, or the volunteer fireman who died trying to save people in that chemical building?

They both made the biggest sacrifice possible, their lives. I dont know why you think someone who can earn 3 million dollars has a life that is worth more than someone who makes only 19 grand.

Nobody said his life is worth more. They said he sacrificed more.
The lives of the average guys who join the military are just as valuable as Tillman's life.
All soldiers are deserving of the same recognition and honor. But many people join the military as a career choice. Yes, they are doing a duty, but they are also looking at it as a job.
Tillman already had a career far more prosperous than most people will ever have.
But he chose to set it aside for something he felt was more important.

The fact that this is a big story is not surprising at all. And it does nothing to diminish the stories of the average soldier either. I don't know where you live, but the stories of the average soldier's deaths do get coverage on the local and state tv and newspaper.

 

[JohnAn2112]

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
I don't know he seemed like a good person overall as well. As I commented before in another thread, he went to my high school. My spanish teacher was talking about him on Friday. She had him, his wife, and his brother all in her class at one point (Zephyranthes and 5489- as exleland students would you know luccarotti- thats her). For me personally it holds a lot of weight due to the fact that he was a community hero in my area.

I think he serves a fine example of a traditional patriotic American, which is not as present today. It is admirable that he gave into his ideological beliefs instead of simply making loads of cash. I don't think you can find a better example of a recent hero and a admirable soldier personally.

Ah yes, Mrs. Luccarotti....she didn't like me much. She almost failed me :|

what year did you graduate btw?

 

[Valhalla1]

I'm sick of the media about it... and they always say he was a football hero as in before he went to war. I'd never heard of the guy

 

[JohnAn2112]

Didn't he lead his team in tackles....as a safety?

 

[touchmyichi]

Originally posted by: ZePHyRaNTHeS

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
I don't know he seemed like a good person overall as well. As I commented before in another thread, he went to my high school. My spanish teacher was talking about him on Friday. She had him, his wife, and his brother all in her class at one point (Zephyranthes and 5489- as exleland students would you know luccarotti- thats her). For me personally it holds a lot of weight due to the fact that he was a community hero in my area.

I think he serves a fine example of a traditional patriotic American, which is not as present today. It is admirable that he gave into his ideological beliefs instead of simply making loads of cash. I don't think you can find a better example of a recent hero and a admirable soldier personally.

Ah yes, Mrs. Luccarotti....she didn't like me much. She almost failed me :|

what year did you graduate btw?

Nawww man i'm still a junior in high school lmao. This is pretty nuts that I'm finding people on this forum who went/go to the same high school as me. I'll graduate next year. Haha, but Lucc almost failed you? Was she a lot harder then or something, because her class is pretty laid back. Yeah she might of had an attitude change or something, because right now she is generally very nice to pretty much everyone in our class. Did you ever have chamberlain or schlink? They are retiring this year fyi.

 

[Syringer]

He was a standout among a group of unique men. That's all.

 

[JohnAn2112]

Originally posted by: touchmyichi

Originally posted by: ZePHyRaNTHeS

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
I don't know he seemed like a good person overall as well. As I commented before in another thread, he went to my high school. My spanish teacher was talking about him on Friday. She had him, his wife, and his brother all in her class at one point (Zephyranthes and 5489- as exleland students would you know luccarotti- thats her). For me personally it holds a lot of weight due to the fact that he was a community hero in my area.

I think he serves a fine example of a traditional patriotic American, which is not as present today. It is admirable that he gave into his ideological beliefs instead of simply making loads of cash. I don't think you can find a better example of a recent hero and a admirable soldier personally.

Ah yes, Mrs. Luccarotti....she didn't like me much. She almost failed me :|

what year did you graduate btw?

Nawww man i'm still a junior in high school lmao. This is pretty nuts that I'm finding people on this forum who went/go to the same high school as me. I'll graduate next year. Haha, but Lucc almost failed you? Was she a lot harder then or something, because her class is pretty laid back. Yeah she might of had an attitude change or something, because right now she is generally very nice to pretty much everyone in our class. Did you ever have chamberlain or schlink? They are retiring this year fyi.

Lucc was super hard back in the day. I had her during Sophomore year and I graduated in 96 so that would be about 94 when I was in her class. I had Schlink my junior year. When I had Lucc, her daughter was also going to Leland so it seemed like she favored her daughter's friends. She was a cheerleader so all the popular kids had an easy class but not me. lol

 

[NightCrawler]

Giving up $3.6 million offer to join the army.......WOW !!!!!

 

[Red Dawn]

He went to Leland? I wonder if his folks live in the Country Club

 

[Mill]

Can't say that I am. The guy did something many of us wouldn't do, and it isn't his fault the media is overplaying it. They do that with everything.

 

[touchmyichi]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He went to Leland? I wonder if his folks live in the Country Club

I don't know about that, but my dad works in the same office as his dad and knows him pretty well.