Anyone else return to IE after using FF?

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Nocturnal

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You could have gone into your control panel and the add/remove programs... you have to click on remove Microsoft Service or something along those lines and it would uninstall without having to format.
 

krackato

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Phoenix baby. Oh yeah, those were the days. I'm kind of hoping they rename Thunderbird to Thunderfox. Hey, we all got used to Firefox, didn't we. And I want to see a Thunderfox logo.
 

Elcs

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I tried Opera years ago and it was awful.

Nothing is making me want to change from the IE that I use now apart from the 'spyware situation'. I like the interface and Im used to it.
 

nsafreak

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I use FireFox exclusively. At first I did have to use IE for some sites because they would not work with FF, not coded to standards or just poorly coded. I've noticed that more and more of the sites that I visit though are bringing their code up to standard and FireFox works fine for them. I think there may be one or two sites that I have to use IE for anymore but I visit those very rarely.
 

torpid

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FF is ok. I had it as my main browser for a while but the download manager irked me and it loads quite slowly. Plus, a few sites I visit just don't quite look right.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
I found too many webpages not formatting correctly for my taste. There was a pretty bad memory leak too, and that kinda made me mad because IE doesnt do that.

I like tabs (kind of) but they arent as necessary or as cool as i thought they'd be.. the taskbar does the same thing for me.

I'd say the RSS is the biggest and best feature of Firefox. That is handy to the point that you wish every page you visited frequently used it.

The day that I decided FF was not for me was when I went to Ebay to sell something and noticed that it was still requiring i do all the HTML work by hand!!

So I tried it using IE and it was fully automated.
I install a bunch of plugins trying to get FF to do this properly, including an ActiveX plugin.. and no go.

I just want every page to load correctly and work to their full ability first time.. thats why I'm back to IE..

Am I the only one?


What memory leak? Firefox will continue to use more and more memory as a session continues, but that's because it caches some of the downloaded pages to RAM.

And I'll echo what Schadenfroh said - IE lets you code sloppily, and even outright wrong, but it'll still try and cover it up, just like Word does when you make typos. Firefox adheres to the standards, exposing just how many poor HTML programmers there are out there.

It even has a nice extension that'll tell you how many errors there are on a specific page, according to W3C standards. Heck, according to HTML Tidy, the forum reply page has 2 errors and 26 warnings.
 

theshodown18

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I tried out FF a while back but it was so much slower than IE on my PC and half the pages I tried to visit either wouldnt work, wouldnt load images or were not formatted correctly, so I went back to IE.




Never ever had a problem with IE + google toolbar (popup blocker). I never see popups, its fast and every page is formated for it. Plus its so ingrained into windows fighting it is futile.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: southpawuni
I found too many webpages not formatting correctly for my taste. There was a pretty bad memory leak too, and that kinda made me mad because IE doesnt do that.

I like tabs (kind of) but they arent as necessary or as cool as i thought they'd be.. the taskbar does the same thing for me.

I'd say the RSS is the biggest and best feature of Firefox. That is handy to the point that you wish every page you visited frequently used it.

The day that I decided FF was not for me was when I went to Ebay to sell something and noticed that it was still requiring i do all the HTML work by hand!!

So I tried it using IE and it was fully automated.
I install a bunch of plugins trying to get FF to do this properly, including an ActiveX plugin.. and no go.

I just want every page to load correctly and work to their full ability first time.. thats why I'm back to IE..

Am I the only one?

And I'll echo what Schadenfroh said - IE lets you code sloppily, and even outright wrong, but it'll still try and cover it up, just like Word does when you make typos. Firefox adheres to the standards, exposing just how many poor HTML programmers there are out there.

And, sadly, that strictness only hurts the end users now that the web is the way it is.

But, dont blame me for it. I'd write all my pages according to the latest standard released. :)

Even then, these standards aren't convincing me. I have made a couple of XHTML 1.0 Strict/CSS2 compliant pages that still render differently in IE/FireFox. Just seems like a waste of time, after you're all done writing that bloated code for no returns, doesn't it? I have to say I like IE's parameter defaults better than I do FireFox's (or W3C's).
 

xtknight

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No, you're not the only one. I only use FF on occasion when sites are completely bloated with ads. If AdBlock Plus (best thing since sliced bread) was made for IE, I wouldn't bother with FF. I use a program called Firefox IE for my Firefoxing. It's loaded with features, and also has a really nice dev/webmaster toolbar.

I'm picky and so used to IE that the fonts in Firefox bother me. I think its link underline looks hideous. IE is a bit more conservative on spacing, which I also like. Even differences in page loading just irk me. I don't like Firefox's toolbar setup. I like my address bar separate but am too lazy to find out how to do so. I dislike Firefox's proprietary controls (even the menu bar) because sometimes they get messed up with my Windows theme. The toolbar is also hard as hell to configure. Not to mention half of its fanbase sounds like misinformed 10 year olds (mostly not Anandtechers) which really turns me off from it. It's the small things that matter, for me, anyway. Maybe I'll have spyware from IE when hell freezes over. XP SP2 is so much better in this regard.

I find myself with 40 IE windows open at once, at least three times a week. Usually at that point my system is so starved for memory even menus won't open. :evil:

Call me insane, but I don't have any antivirus programs on my PC either for performance reasons. Nor do I have any viruses as per my Housecall scan a couple months ago. ;) But I'm no soccer mom when it comes to Windows. Spyware is once in a blue moon on this PC. I'm one of those people who may very well still be using Windows XP when he's 80. I'd notice if the start menu were 1 pixel shorter. It's just how I am.
 

Kadarin

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Nov 23, 2001
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The only sites I use IE for are those that require ActiveX. Otherwise, I've been using Mozilla and or Firefox since Mozilla version 0.94...
 

eLiu

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I just use IE...it's never given me problems before, so I have no reason to reject it. I've been on IE ever since Win98. Before that I was a netscape user...then netscape started to suck.
 

jtvang125

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IE--->Opera 8.xx--->Firefox--->Opera

I'm going to stick with Opera for now. Although FF and opera are quite similar, there are a few things I like in opera that makes surfing much more enjoyable. Things such as, close tab box instead of right click and close tab; top 10 visited sites; going back one page is very fast, opens where i last left off...ect. I can probably do the same with FF but why do i have to go search and install them when they're already built in with opera. And FF takes forever to load, sometimes I click 2 or 3 times thinking it didn't load and then 3 FF windows opens.
 

imported_Rampage

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: southpawuni
I found too many webpages not formatting correctly for my taste. There was a pretty bad memory leak too, and that kinda made me mad because IE doesnt do that.

I like tabs (kind of) but they arent as necessary or as cool as i thought they'd be.. the taskbar does the same thing for me.

I'd say the RSS is the biggest and best feature of Firefox. That is handy to the point that you wish every page you visited frequently used it.

The day that I decided FF was not for me was when I went to Ebay to sell something and noticed that it was still requiring i do all the HTML work by hand!!

So I tried it using IE and it was fully automated.
I install a bunch of plugins trying to get FF to do this properly, including an ActiveX plugin.. and no go.

I just want every page to load correctly and work to their full ability first time.. thats why I'm back to IE..

Am I the only one?


What memory leak? Firefox will continue to use more and more memory as a session continues, but that's because it caches some of the downloaded pages to RAM.

And I'll echo what Schadenfroh said - IE lets you code sloppily, and even outright wrong, but it'll still try and cover it up, just like Word does when you make typos. Firefox adheres to the standards, exposing just how many poor HTML programmers there are out there.

It even has a nice extension that'll tell you how many errors there are on a specific page, according to W3C standards. Heck, according to HTML Tidy, the forum reply page has 2 errors and 26 warnings.

The memory leak that was in Firefox 1.0

mentioned here http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t256322.html

It turned me off immediately. Its fixed now..
but it was a shame to have this big hoopla about how MS sucks and FF just plain owned the universe.. when I saw after leaving it open for a while it had bloated waaayyy out (more than if I'd just used IE6 and the task bar as my "tabs") I was like, "yep. MS bashing is officially for 10 year olds"

I'm not a huge MS lover either. But I go with the standards (market share standards that everyone makes sure they code for that is).. and I just like the way IE renders pages more.

I'm going to try and find the IE7 beta on BT.
 

ShaneDOTM

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Why would I think of going back to IE? Darn thing crashes all the time, loads malware for me, and makes transparent png's look like burn patients. FF is the only one. Heck now that Uncle Bill implemented the Advantage thing on update, I can't even get IE to update my windows box.
 

PingSpike

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I like firefox's minimalist interface, tabbed browsing, extensions support and the fact it makes the web browser seperate from the OS.

It does load a bit slower and the download manager just isn't my cup of tea really.
 

erikistired

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good god no, that would be like hacking off a foot or hand or something. i opened a website in IE that wouldn't open right in FF and was treated to about 30 popups. apparently that's why it wouldn't render correctly in FF... yeah, please, more IE for me! no thanks.
 

imported_Rampage

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Actually...

I tried IE7 and its horrible in its current state. I uninstalled it and went back to IE6.

it breaks windows updates
as well as you can only fit a few things on the links toolbar because even if you have a single word in your link it forces it to take up a bunch of space, and cant move much around at all
 

Sureshot324

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Another big plus for FF is how customizeable the toolbar is. I can put everything I need on one bar, including the menus. It's also faster than IE if you use all the well known tweeks.
 

imported_Rampage

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I dont see why they dont have all the 'tweaks' like HTTP pipelining enabled by default. I'm assuming the guys making FF know about this..

but the toolbar and interface to FF is pretty killer.. nice and clean. Its really all you need in a browser. I just like the way IE renders pages. But I'm prob going to use FF until IE7 is final. After using tabs again after IE7 its hard to go back to IE6. Really cleans up the taskbar when i have other programs running.
I'm not huge on the RSS, I just like to visit the pages that I frequent. Keep them on the links toolbar instead of using the rss.
 

Installed FF 1.0 and never looked back.

1) Extensions
2) Search as you type
3) No ActiveX, security holes

Three reasons to never touch IE again.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
I dont see why they dont have all the 'tweaks' like HTTP pipelining enabled by default. I'm assuming the guys making FF know about this..

but the toolbar and interface to FF is pretty killer.. nice and clean. Its really all you need in a browser. I just like the way IE renders pages. But I'm prob going to use FF until IE7 is final. After using tabs again after IE7 its hard to go back to IE6. Really cleans up the taskbar when i have other programs running.
I'm not huge on the RSS, I just like to visit the pages that I frequent. Keep them on the links toolbar instead of using the rss.

Maybe those "tweaks" don't work optimally in some situations. Like machines on a slow link or with teeeeeeny amounts of ram. They probably set up FF for the least common denominator (or close to it).