Anyone else pre-ordering the Verizon iPhone 4 tonight?

[preslove]

considering it comes out on the 10th, I wouldn't say it's been out for 7 months.

and why is it so stupid?

It's an iPhone 4, which came out last summer. You'd be much better off waiting until June for the next iPhone (if you want iOS).

 

[DivideBYZero]

The iPhone 4 CDMA version is 0 months old. The GSM based variant is 7 months 'old', but I find that pretty laughable as I see plenty of people enjoying their 3G's and 3GS', but I guess they're 'Silly', 'stupid' and 'want to be an iPhone fanboy'.

Let him buy whatever the ckuf he wants and feels he will enjoy.


Chill it down a notch, DBZ

Edited by Moderator PM to remove needless blanket insults

 

[purbeast0]

It's an iPhone 4, which came out last summer. You'd be much better off waiting until June for the next iPhone (if you want iOS).

your response totally avoided saying why it's stupid. all you did was state that the AT&T iPhone 4 variant came out last summer, which I think everyone in this forum already knows.

 

[preslove]

What a bunch of flaming douche bags. The iPhone 4 CDMA version is 0 months old. The GSM based variant is 7 months 'old', but I find that pretty laughable as I see plenty of people enjoying their 3G's and 3GS', but I guess they're 'Silly', 'stupid' and 'want to be an iPhone fanboy'.

Let him buy whatever the ckuf he wants and feels he will enjoy.

Seriously, douche bags, the lot of you.

There were tons of complaints about the 3G after iOS 4 came out and made them run very slowly. Unless Verizon allows people to upgrade early, he may well find himself in the 3G position of have a phone run like ass after an OS install.

The dude just came here to help justify him making his irrational purchase & everyone told him the truth, which is that the new one is 4-5 months away and it makes sense to buy now.

 

[TheStu]

heh it's right in the OP.

i have a samsung gleam flip phone.

and as of now all the research I could do on iPhone 5 is all speculation, granted I know their yearly release falls in the summer.

that said, the current iPhone is more than enough for my needs. i've used one before as well as quite a few android phones.

if it is enough for me now, it is absolutely pointless for me to wait it out. that is like me upgrading my PC that is 2 years old when it gets the job done for what I use it for, even though there are much faster CPU, vid cards, and RAM out there.

It isn't like the PC example at all. In the PC example, you already have perfectly good computer, whereas you don't have a phone that you like.

Here is what we know about the iPhone 5;
It will come out in June
It will have at least a 960*640 display (it probably won't change actually)
It will probably be roughly the same design as the current one, maybe a slight change to the antenna, and maybe not a glass back, but probably the same slab.
It will almost certainly have either a faster CPU, or a dual core one at the same speed.
It will be available in June on both AT&T and Verizon.
It will be equal to, or better than the iPhone 4 in almost every imaginable way.

A counter example is if your PC was getting long in the tooth, and you were going to upgrade it 6 months ago, but knew that you could survive on it for a few more months while you waited for Sandy Bridge, which would have been equal to or better than the Core i5 you would have gotten.

That is what we are saying here. If you are already willing to spend $200, and have put up with your old phone for 2 years at least already, why not wait 5 more months, and get the iPhone 5? This isn't the same as the waiting game with other tech, where you can buy a 460 one day, and have the 560 get released the next week. You know when the new iPhone is coming (down the week just about, certainly down to the month), you know what carriers it will be on, and you know how much it will cost.

Get the iPhone 4, don't get the iPhone 4, I don't care. All we are saying is, if we were in your shoes we wouldn't.

 

[purbeast0]

There were tons of complaints about the 3G after iOS 4 came out and made them run very slowly. Unless Verizon allows people to upgrade early, he may well find himself in the 3G position of have a phone run like ass after an OS install.

The dude just came here to help justify him making his irrational purchase & everyone told him the truth, which is that the new one is 4-5 months away and it makes sense to buy now.

yes i made a thread to justify my "irrational" purchase...

you're onto me.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Now we have posters making up a new phone... priceless.

As for Sandy Bridge...dude, bad analogy, very bad.

 

[purbeast0]

Get the iPhone 4, don't get the iPhone 4, I don't care. All we are saying is, if we were in your shoes we wouldn't.

heh no, that is not what most people in this thread are saying at all. read the responses.

thanks for the info though, even though none of that is finalized by any means, especially that iPhone 5 will be on verizon.

 

[preslove]

your response totally avoided saying why it's stupid. all you did was state that the AT&T iPhone 4 variant came out last summer, which I think everyone in this forum already knows.

And all you're doing here is trying to justify a poor decision and getting pissy because everyone is telling you so. Everyone is calling it a bad decision for a reason. The iPhone is replaced EVERY YEAR in June or July. It's stupid to buy now because you won't be able to upgrade (unless Verizon allows early upgrades) until 3 generations after the one you buy now. Unless you plan to just buy a new one full price, which you should have stated at the start.

 

[purbeast0]

And all you're doing here is trying to justify a poor decision and getting pissy because it's not a well thought decision. Everyone is calling it a bad decision for a reason. The iPhone is replaced EVERY YEAR in June or July. It's stupid to buy now because you won't be able to upgrade (unless Verizon allows early upgrades) until 3 generations after the one you buy now. Unless you plan to just buy a new one full price, which you should have stated at the start.

and what you are basically saying is that it's stupid to not have the most current technology on a phone.

man i must be super stupid because i have been using a 4 year old flip phone over the past!

and again i'm not coming here to justify my deicision at all. i didn't see a thread on the release of the Verizon iPhone, which is a pretty freaking big deal in the industry, so I made one. i don't give 2 shits what other people think about my decision I'm making, but when people claim that others are "stupid" for buying what suits their needs and their wants, i become curious.

and still, you have yet to say why it's "stupid" other than it is buying "old" technology. if buying "old" technology was stupid then anybody who buys a new phone on any other day than release day is stupid, because there is ALWAYS a newer and more powerful phone just around hte corner.

 

[DivideBYZero]

And all you're doing here is trying to justify a poor decision and getting pissy because everyone is telling you so. Everyone is calling it a bad decision for a reason. The iPhone is replaced EVERY YEAR in June or July. It's stupid to buy now because you won't be able to upgrade (unless Verizon allows early upgrades) until 3 generations after the one you buy now. Unless you plan to just buy a new one full price, which you should have stated at the start.

He's got every right to get pissy. He's being jumped on by five raging nerds essentially calling him 'stupid' for wanting a device, that most in here will defend before their first born child, by being assualted with made up "facts" about a phone that is not available.

Essentially, the iPhone 4 is not suddenly shit because a new one may or may not come out in five months. Five months.

 

[preslove]

and what you are basically saying is that it's stupid to not have the most current technology on a phone.

man i must be super stupid because i have been using a 4 year old flip phone over the past!

and again i'm not coming here to justify my deicision at all. i didn't see a thread on the release of the Verizon iPhone, which is a pretty freaking big deal in the industry, so I made one. i don't give 2 shits what other people think about my decision I'm making, but when people claim that others are "stupid" for buying what suits their needs and their wants, i become curious.

and still, you have yet to say why it's "stupid" other than it is buying "old" technology. if buying "old" technology was stupid then anybody who buys a new phone on any other day than release day is stupid, because there is ALWAYS a newer and more powerful phone just around hte corner.

People usually get very defensive and aggravated when they really want to justify a bad decision & people point out the flaws in their logic...

And no, there is not "ALWAYS" a newer iPhone around the corner. New iPhones come out once a year, in the summer.

But, whatever, make your impulse purchase.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

why are iPhones for uneducated people?

because my friend from google says "I think the iPhone is a toy"

Me: Okay, so you're saying this when you have a Nexus One on AT&T meaning you lack 3G. I also see you using the pathetic stock launcher which is still... choppy. Then you also use the stock keyboard which... lacks multitouch. Do you use custom ROMs? (No) Do you use custom kernels? Overclock? Undervolt? (No no no). Do you use custom themes? (No)

Ok, then how is the iPhone a toy when you don't even use your Android phone for anything beyond the basics?

Then I told him that while I modded the crap out of my Milestone/Droid, I still consider the iPhone a more pleasant experience despite this "openness" I'm given.

 

[purbeast0]

People usually get very defensive and aggravated when they really want to justify a bad decision & people point out the flaws in their logic...

And no, there is not "ALWAYS" a newer iPhone around the corner. New iPhones come out once a year, in the summer.

But, whatever, make your impulse purchase.

im not getting defensive or pissy or aggressive at all, i just wanna know why you are calling me stupid for buying a phone i want, that suits my needs, and has the interface i want.

other than "its old" and bringing up 4G phones and HTC phones, no one has yet to say what is so stupid about it.

if a new iPhone comes out every year, then that means there is always a newer one on the horizon.

and how is this an "impulse purchase" if i've been waiting since last year for CES to see if Verizon would announce an iPhone to decide which smart phone i was getting?

you are the one who seems to have his panties in a bunch.

 

[zerocool84]

People are just saying since you waited this long why not wait a little longer.

 

[TheStu]

heh no, that is not what most people in this thread are saying at all. read the responses.

thanks for the info though, even though none of that is finalized by any means, especially that iPhone 5 will be on verizon.

I was trying to be nice, and regardless of how incredibly poorly they are doing it, that is the gist of what they are saying.

And I would actually imagine that most of the phone is finalized. Apple said they were working on the iPhone 4's antenna for 2 years. They had working intel versions of OS X going all the way back to 10.0 (Intel macs came out with 10.4.6 IIRC) and have had CDMA prototypes for years for the iPhone.

Since they released the first on in June 07, they have released a new iPhone every year in June/July. Also, it doesn't make any sense to have 2 different release schedules for AT&T and Verizon.

However, all that being said, I don't imagine that the next one will be drastically different from the iPhone 4 from a hardware standpoint. The best you can hope for is more RAM and a better CPU. I don't think that 64GB NAND is available in high enough quantities (or at all) for them to do a storage bump.

 

[preslove]

im not getting defensive or pissy or aggressive at all, i just wanna know why you are calling me stupid for buying a phone i want, that suits my needs, and has the interface i want.

other than "its old" and bringing up 4G phones and HTC phones, no one has yet to say what is so stupid about it.

if a new iPhone comes out every year, then that means there is always a newer one on the horizon.

and how is this an "impulse purchase" if i've been waiting since last year for CES to see if Verizon would announce an iPhone to decide which smart phone i was getting?

you are the one who seems to have his panties in a bunch.

lol. Yes, you are coming across as aggressively defensive. I didn't start out calling you stupid, until you got really aggressive with me. Read my first post.

You came on an enthusiast forum asking whether anyone was going to buy a 7 month old phone that will be updated in 5 months. NO ONE said yes, and a couple of them criticized your decision. Guess what, enthusiast forums and websites are all going to tell you not to make your purchase (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone) because of this.

For the record, I'm not angry at your posts. I find them fairly amusing because of they reek of such denial.

 

[DivideBYZero]

lol. Yes, you are coming across as aggressively defensive. I didn't start out calling you stupid, until you got really aggressive with me. Read my first post.

You came on an enthusiast forum asking whether anyone was going to buy a 7 month old phone that will be updated in 5 months. NO ONE said yes, and a couple of them criticized your decision. Guess what, enthusiast forums and websites are all going to tell you not to make your purchase (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone) because of this.

For the record, I'm not angry at your posts. I find them fairly amusing because of they reek of such denial.

I said yes as it's a NEW phone, not a seven month old one. The OP clearly likes Verizon, and after all of the hand wringing about the V getting the iPhone as soon as someone says they are actually going to get it, you flame them. Weak.

 

[Red Storm]

OP we're trying to save you some money. In a few months you'll get the iPhone 5 at the current iPhone price. But you seem to have had your mind already made up from the start, so why ask us?

 

[preslove]

I said yes as it's a NEW phone, not a seven month old one.

You are really arguing this point? lol

And the question is, "Anyone else pre-ordering..." You're pre-ordering a VZW iPhone tonight?

 

[TheStu]

OP we're trying to save you some money. In a few months you'll get the iPhone 5 at the current iPhone price. But you seem to have had your mind already made up from the start, so why ask us?

We probably aren't going to save him any money.

Unless of course Verizon does like AT&T has done which is when a new iPhone comes out, iPhone n-1 gets relegated to the $99 slot, and the OP still gets the iPhone 4, but just 5 months from now.

 

[DivideBYZero]

You are really arguing this point? lol

And the question is, "Anyone else pre-ordering..." You're pre-ordering a VZW iPhone tonight?

You're not answering the OP either, just flaming him. I'm supporting his choice, as it's a pretty good one for a Verizon customer. Maybe you can explain why waiting five months is a good idea. Five months, in which he could be enjoying his shiny new iPhone, or just hang on forever to please people like you.

 

[QueBert]

The iPhone 5 is almost 5 months away, not a few, not even close to a few. Also if past launches are any indication unless OP wants to camp out for a few days or get's really lucky he's not going to be able to get 1 until a few weeks or even a month after it's launch date. The advice he's getting here is basically to wait almost 1/2 a year to get a phone. Hell why stop there? Just 12 months after that he could get an iPhone 6.

 

[vshah]

sorry...i didn't read

coming from a flip phone, any modern smartphone is going to be such an epiphany that you'll easily be happy playing with it for a year at least.

 

[purbeast0]

OP we're trying to save you some money. In a few months you'll get the iPhone 5 at the current iPhone price. But you seem to have had your mind already made up from the start, so why ask us?

ask you all what?

i simply made a thread asking others if they are preordering the iphone 4 when it becomes available tonight at 12am pst.

and yes i did have my mind made up, and i'm not claiming otherwise.