Any via problems with new chipsets???

[picardal]

I was just wondering if there were any via problems in newer chipsets like the kt266a....
thx guys

 

[picardal]

especially with the southbridge of it....
anyone?

 

[jaeger66]

No trouble here, although I'm sure Pabster will be along any moment to tell you otherwise.

 

[Mem]

Yep no problems here with my Epox 8KHA+ (KT266a) and I`m using 4 USB devices,SB Audigy and XP Pro ,I `m sure Pabster will say VIA is the problem .

 

[RGN]

<< Yep no problems here with my Epox 8KHA+ (KT266a) and I`m using 4 USB devices,SB Audigy and XP Pro ,I `m sure Pabster will say VIA is the problem . >>



they are. There hasn't ever been a long enough time between releases to prove one of their chipsets.

 

[Mem]

<< they are. There hasn't ever been a long enough time between releases to prove one of their chipsets. >>



Another Pabster clone .

 

[Duvie]

Yeah mem the diamond member is right....

Just disregard all the reputable sites that have found the ide issues of late with the kt266a...Yeah nevermind those...

Don't even think that the via 4 in 1 updates that happenly monthly if not bimonthly have any thing to do with fixing degraded performance or bugs....They just like releasing them!!! Yeah that is it...

< Another Pabster clone >

What a jerk commment...


Don't even think of calling me a pabster clone, I would at least buy one if I saw a great deal...I think I could do the research and work around some of the issues as to minimize my chance of having the issues.

 

[Mem]

Duvie,All I see on these boards are too many members flaming VIA period,now I`ve no problems with anybody buying any chipset infact I`ve had both SiS and Intel and as I`ve stated I`ve had no problems with VIA myself, no chipset is perfect and I would not say VIA or any other chipset is.

Now if you got a problem with VIA simple don`t buy it,just don`t come on these boards and start flaming or telling anybody not to buy VIA or whatever chipset they want.

One more thing I`ve no loyalty to any chipset ,I call the stability as I use them and at the moment I`ve a VIA board and am happy with it,you got a problem with that tough.

 

[bigshooter]

I built my new Epox 8KHA+ with Athlon XP 1600+ last night at 2 am when I got home drunk from the bars. I woked up this afternoon and came down to finish setting it up. I was amazed to find all the latest drivers, all winxp updates and everything configured properly. If I could do this after a night of Shiner Bock then there must not be any problems. Oh yeah, I'm using an Enermax power supply on my Epox board. God I'm a rebel.

 

[John]

<< No trouble here, although I'm sure Pabster will be along any moment to tell you otherwise. >>



I remember we used to ride Modus like this as well.

 

[Duvie]

Mem I agree with most you have said...However it is the right of many ppl to have same opinion as others and not being in allegiance with them...Give rgn the right to say his opinion...



< Now if you got a problem with VIA simple don`t buy it,just don`t come on these boards and start flaming or telling anybody not to buy VIA or whatever chipset they want. >

Well if he is asking about issues what is wrong with telling him what we know, what we have heard, and what we may have personally seen...Now pabster has experience with a lot of via boards, so if you don't like what he is saying call him on it and you 2 debate the issues...

This is what the forum is all about...I place where we can discuss the hardware and the issues that arise. Are we only to come in and say rosey things about products or nothing at all??? I would feel bad if I knowingly let somebody buy something I felt was not what they thought of it or wanted...


I have had many and I mean many of ppl over the last month pm me and ask me questions about ECS boards cause they don't want to start an inproductive flame war. Via fans like jerboi, azgamer go in there and spread misinformation about the sis735 chipset. They have points on quality control but when pressured they never produce any documentation of actual chipset issues. I think they have the right to talk. Just like the right I have to refute them then call them out...You do the same...Many of those ppl have bought the boards and I have not seen them posting about problems so I feel good I helped them get a good product for a great price...

 

[Pabster]

Pabster is in the house. VIA zealots, cover your eyes and close your ears.

Yes, unfortunately, the latest VIA core logic is flawed (8366A/8233). Both chipsets are full of issues which cause everything from IRQ difficulties to dismal IDE and PCI subsystem performance. But don't take my word for it; there is certainly no shortage of reviews on the subject which illustrate the point. These "issues" have existed since the days of VIA's POS MVP3 chipsets. They still haven't fixed them, and I don't expect KT333/8233A (the latter already having been identified as having "issues" with Windows XP) to fix that.

Now, certainly, not everyone experiences each issue. And many don't even realize that the problem(s) they're experiencing has to do with faulty VIA core logic. Still others deny the issues, no matter how much evidence exists to the contrary.

Take one look at the number of third-party "patches" and "fixes" (besides VIA's infamous, ubiquituous 4-in-1 packages) around the 'net. I think it speaks for itself.

 

[picardal]

hahaha You guys are giving me a hard time to decide on which motherboard I should buy
Im scared of via because i have had problems in the past ( bad cd-burning, sb live problems ) --so many headaches...
I want to be able to burn an iso file in win2000 without it giving me corrupt cds!!!
I might have to go with the Iwill board! Im still not positive I really really like the epox kt266a also!!!

 

[Mem]

<< I want to be able to burn an iso file in win2000 without it giving me corrupt cds!!!
I might have to go with the Iwill board! Im still not positive I really really like the epox kt266a also!!! >>




It`s your money your choice so only you can really decide, anyway whichever board you buy good luck with the setup.

 

[RGN]

<<

<< they are. There hasn't ever been a long enough time between releases to prove one of their chipsets. >>



Another Pabster clone . >>



Now, wait thats not right. I don't even like him. He is the ECS zealot right?

I'm talking from experience... I had a KT133. It was awful. I currently own a P4X266. And a AMD761/Via, and I just got a KT266 board.

I own them, and that gives me the right to b!tch.

FYI, the P4X266 is the most stable Via based board I've ever seen. It rocks.

 

[Mem]

<< Now, wait thats not right. I don't even like him. He is the ECS zealot right?

I'm talking from experience... I had a KT133. It was awful. I currently own a P4X266. And a AMD761/Via, and I just got a KT266 board.

I own them, and that gives me the right to b!tch.

FYI, the P4X266 is the most stable Via based board I've ever seen. It rocks. >>



I guess that was below the belt calling you a "Pabster clone" anyway I apologize for that remark RGN,I was just tired of seeing so many VIA flaming threads.

Btw I`ve a VIA KT133 board as well (MSI K7T PRO) and it`s also stable .

 

[RGN]

<< Btw I`ve a VIA KT133 board as well (MSI K7T PRO) and it`s also stable . >>




hmm, I should have made my comment clear. I had a MSI K7T Pro2a.

Now, I like MSI boards. They are usually great. However this was the biggest piece of trash I've ever seen. I'm assuming I got a lemon.

 

[Mem]

<< hmm, I should have made my comment clear. I had a MSI K7T Pro2a.

Now, I like MSI boards. They are usually great. However this was the biggest piece of trash I've ever seen. I'm assuming I got a lemon. >>



I believe it got a very good review & one of the best KT133A boards by Anandtech,however I have heard a lot of these boards just dying for no reason ,so I can`t really say.

 

[Pabster]

Mem wrote:

"I guess that was below the belt calling you a "Pabster clone" anyway I apologize for that remark RGN,I was just tired of seeing so many VIA flaming threads."

ROFLMAO I'd take it as a compliment, personally.

Anyway, the vast majority of the "VIA flaming threads" (as you put it), arise from disgruntled users. It's not like I start threads to bash VIA or anything like that. And when people ask for recommendations, I don't sugar coat anything.

 

[AA0]

The number of "issues" with VIA chipsets, and the number of times they actually occur aren't really any different than any other chipsets.

If I wanted to be like Pabster, I could start saying how incompatible and how many problems the SiS chipset has. But then again, I'd just be pulling stuff out of my ass, like all the VIA haters do.


If you ever have a VIA problem, you should be buying a store bought computer, as you aren't capable of building one. I have yet to encounter any Live! issues, PCI problems don't even exist, if you set up your board right (which 95% don't), lower IDE performance isn't a bug.

 

[slpaulson]

I had an issue with my new dragon + motherboard and my external zip 100 drive. Other than that it's running like a champ.

I really don't care much for via, but there isn't really an alternative for amd cpus.

 

[RGN]

<< The number of "issues" with VIA chipsets, and the number of times they actually occur aren't really any different than any other chipsets.

If I wanted to be like Pabster, I could start saying how incompatible and how many problems the SiS chipset has. But then again, I'd just be pulling stuff out of my ass, like all the VIA haters do.


If you ever have a VIA problem, you should be buying a store bought computer, as you aren't capable of building one. I have yet to encounter any Live! issues, PCI problems don't even exist, if you set up your board right (which 95% don't), lower IDE performance isn't a bug. >>



If I may communicate of your level:
You are being like Pabster, only on the opposite end of the spectrum. Calling people that have problems with a Via board stupid is not right.

How about you suggest real solutions for these Via "issues" (<newsflash> that by the way, don't exist on other chipsets </newsflash>), instead of just saying its a user problem? Are you "pulling stuff out of (your) ass?"

 

[Pabster]

AA0 wrote:

"If you ever have a VIA problem, you should be buying a store bought computer, as you aren't capable of building one. I have yet to encounter any Live! issues, PCI problems don't even exist, if you set up your board right (which 95% don't), lower IDE performance isn't a bug."

Ignoring the issues won't help anyone, and it certainly won't make them go away. The issues with VIA chipsets are well, well documented. Many a forum user here can tell you horror stories, often not from just one VIA-based board, but a whole string of them. To call these people "stupid" or "inexperienced" is asinine.

If you have valid information about SiS 735 "issues", please let us all know. I've been waiting for this list for the past several months. Many a zealot has come and gone without providing it.

 

[jaeger66]

Yeah, I have an issue with the 735. Only PC Chips & Leadtek support it. No thanks.

 

[Pabster]

Better to have a rock solid, reliable chipset on a few boards than a plethora of overpriced boards with faulty VIA core logic.