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Any reason NOT to raid 0 my two raptors other than possible data loss?

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Polish3d

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Subject line pretty much says it all...yes, won't see huge difference but would like the faster load times etc...

Any reason not to? Any problems with Raid 0 limiting overclocking ?


It will be 2x Raptor 74HDD
 
Originally posted by: Frackal
Subject line pretty much says it all...yes, won't see huge difference but would like the faster load times etc...

Any reason not to? Any problems with Raid 0 limiting overclocking ?


It will be 2x Raptor 74HDD
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Yea, its pointless..........

Not only do you risk data loss, but it wont help at all, none. In a synthetic benchmark you might see a +5MB/s increase, but when it comes to loading games or encoding, or other REAL WORLD stuff, it wont help at all

and im speaking on the subject, because i know, i raided my raptors and was sorely disappointed as it didnt help anything (it actually makes one of the times slower, cant remember if it was seek time, write time or access time)

id tell you to not do it, and if you havnt bought the drives yet, to not buy them at all and get something better (ie, more storage)
 
With 2 drives, RAID 0 (Striping) doesn'make a lot of sense. Much to be lost and little to be gained. If either drive failes, you lose everything from both. You would be better off using one drive and then making a duplicate of it on the second drive. You would then have 100% redundancy.

Why is RAID 1 not an option?
 
Originally posted by: corkyg
With 2 drives, RAID 0 (Striping) doesn'make a lot of sense. Much to be lost and little to be gained. If either drive failes, you lose everything from both. You would be better off using one drive and then making a duplicate of it on the second drive. You would then have 100% redundancy.

Why is RAID 1 not an option?
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because like a lot of people, he thinks RAID 0 will provide awesome load times and such, when it wont
 
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
because like a lot of people, he thinks RAID 0 will provide awesome load times and such, when it wont
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Makes you wonder why almost half the people who buy Barracudas at NewEgg seem to brag about using them in raid 0 configuration in the reviews, doesn't it?
 
Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
because like a lot of people, he thinks RAID 0 will provide awesome load times and such, when it wont
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Makes you wonder why almost half the people who buy Barracudas at NewEgg seem to brag about using them in raid 0 configuration in the reviews, doesn't it?
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it does make me wonder

wait, are you trying to be sarcastic (i cant tell...........)
because RAID 0 doesnt help at all in real world performance (ok, it does, but like a 1 second increase)
 
It really depends on what you are doing. Some things may see an increase and some will not. When dealing with very large files RAID-0 may be help, but I think a multi-disk solution would be better. Also the fact that RAID-0 reduces relibility also makes it farther from worth it.
 
Originally posted by: corkyg
If either drive failes, you lose everything from both.

Why is RAID 1 not an option?
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but you only have as much space as one drive anyways. so its the same as loosing a single drive.


 
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: corkyg
If either drive failes, you lose everything from both.

Why is RAID 1 not an option?
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but you only have as much space as one drive anyways. so its the same as loosing a single drive.
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With RAID-1 the data is mirrored on the other drive. So you still have only have the space of a single Raptor.
 
I'd say the successor of RAID 0 is RAID 5, you get better benefits plus the backup array.

Personally I wouldn't RAID my drives unless it was experimenting or needed it for a good reason. But out of blue, probably not. Your RAID 0 crashes, and you'll just lose some of your temper, unless something worse happens.
 
Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: corkyg
If either drive failes, you lose everything from both.

Why is RAID 1 not an option?
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but you only have as much space as one drive anyways. so its the same as loosing a single drive.
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With RAID-1 the data is mirrored on the other drive. So you still have only have the space of a single Raptor.
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I know that, but what does that have to do with not doing RAID 1?
it provides a safety net.........




o and Frackal, just to give you a real world performance, the RAID 0 array i had with my raptors failed 3 times in one year
 
Well its a bummer it really makes that little difference, at least according to all of you here.

I was fully aware the difference wouldn't be much, but in that G4TV "Ultimate Gaming System" for instance they did Raid 0 2 raptors so I figured if you have them, may as well do it.

Not sure if I will now, will have to re-read reviews on it. I don't need more storage than these two will provide though.
 
Originally posted by: Frackal
Well its a bummer it really makes that little difference, at least according to all of you here.

I was fully aware the difference wouldn't be much, but in that G4TV "Ultimate Gaming System" for instance they did Raid 0 2 raptors so I figured if you have them, may as well do it.

Not sure if I will now, will have to re-read reviews on it. I don't need more storage than these two will provide though.
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just try it. its the only way to get your own opinion.

just remember with 2 74gig drives in raid0 you only have 74gigs of space.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: Frackal
Well its a bummer it really makes that little difference, at least according to all of you here.

I was fully aware the difference wouldn't be much, but in that G4TV "Ultimate Gaming System" for instance they did Raid 0 2 raptors so I figured if you have them, may as well do it.

Not sure if I will now, will have to re-read reviews on it. I don't need more storage than these two will provide though.
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just try it. its the only way to get your own opinion.

just remember with 2 74gig drives in raid0 you only have 74gigs of space.
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i think ur very very confused

raid 0 doubles the space...............

74 + 74 = 148 not 74
 
Actually I did not know that. I thought I would get the full ~148g. That answers my question. 🙂 Did not buy a second Raptor for that.

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Oh ok, maybe not then lol
 
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
wait, are you trying to be sarcastic (i cant tell...........)
because RAID 0 doesnt help at all in real world performance (ok, it does, but like a 1 second increase)
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LOL, sorry no, I wasn't being sarcastic (I would have included tags if I were). I was shopping around for another Barracuda since I've about used up mine, and I was reading reviews at NewEgg. I was laughing at all the people who raid 0'd two of them and were claiming it was even faster than Raptors.
 
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: Frackal
Well its a bummer it really makes that little difference, at least according to all of you here.

I was fully aware the difference wouldn't be much, but in that G4TV "Ultimate Gaming System" for instance they did Raid 0 2 raptors so I figured if you have them, may as well do it.

Not sure if I will now, will have to re-read reviews on it. I don't need more storage than these two will provide though.
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just try it. its the only way to get your own opinion.

just remember with 2 74gig drives in raid0 you only have 74gigs of space.
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😕


i think ur very very confused

raid 0 doubles the space...............

74 + 74 = 148 not 74
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s**t. your right. im tired. been a long day. 😱
 
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: Frackal
Well its a bummer it really makes that little difference, at least according to all of you here.

I was fully aware the difference wouldn't be much, but in that G4TV "Ultimate Gaming System" for instance they did Raid 0 2 raptors so I figured if you have them, may as well do it.

Not sure if I will now, will have to re-read reviews on it. I don't need more storage than these two will provide though.
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just try it. its the only way to get your own opinion.

just remember with 2 74gig drives in raid0 you only have 74gigs of space.
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😕


i think ur very very confused

raid 0 doubles the space...............

74 + 74 = 148 not 74
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s**t. your right. im tired. been a long day. 😱
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understandable :beer:
 
just remember with 2 74gig drives in raid0 you only have 74gigs of space.
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This is incorrect for RAID-0. You get 148GB (74*2).

As for the OP both Anandtech and StorageReview have articles on RAID-0. They should help.

Edit: In the time I was getting those articles everybody already corrected you 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Frackal
Well its a bummer it really makes that little difference, at least according to all of you here.

I was fully aware the difference wouldn't be much, but in that G4TV "Ultimate Gaming System" for instance they did Raid 0 2 raptors so I figured if you have them, may as well do it.

Not sure if I will now, will have to re-read reviews on it. I don't need more storage than these two will provide though.
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G4TV doesn't care about the fact that RAID 0 offers no performance increase, they are likely under the assumption they will get amazing hard drive performance, which is not the case.

If you look at the rest of their Ultimate Gaming System you will see they don't know as much about computer hardware as many people here on the forums.
 
Originally posted by: KoolDrew
just remember with 2 74gig drives in raid0 you only have 74gigs of space.
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This is incorrect for RAID-0. You get 148GB (74*2).

As for the OP both Anandtech and StorageReview have articles on RAID-0. They should help.

Edit: In the time I was getting those articles everybody already corrected you 🙁
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Just to quote the Anandtech article:

If you haven't gotten the hint by now, we'll spell it out for you: there is no place, and no need for a RAID-0 array on a desktop computer. The real world performance increases are negligible at best and the reduction in reliability, thanks to a halving of the mean time between failure, makes RAID-0 far from worth it on the desktop.
 
Originally posted by: Varun
Originally posted by: Frackal
Well its a bummer it really makes that little difference, at least according to all of you here.

I was fully aware the difference wouldn't be much, but in that G4TV "Ultimate Gaming System" for instance they did Raid 0 2 raptors so I figured if you have them, may as well do it.

Not sure if I will now, will have to re-read reviews on it. I don't need more storage than these two will provide though.
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G4TV doesn't care about the fact that RAID 0 offers no performance increase, they are likely under the assumption they will get amazing hard drive performance, which is not the case.

If you look at the rest of their Ultimate Gaming System you will see they don't know as much about computer hardware as many people here on the forums.
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Yeah after re-reading their full article I see your point re: the rest of what they picked
 
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