Any other options besides moving out?

Ricemarine

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***really long, TLDR/superficial answers aren't what I'm looking for***
I doubt I'll get many answers :laugh:

Right now, I am a college student raised in an asian family. The problem is, I'm very unhappy with my current situation between my parents and me, and my other siblings feel the same. What is going on is that they are in what we believe are abusing their power of authority over us. While supposedly for good reasons such as teaching their children discipline, they also want to keep the family together as long as possible in the same house, even though now one has graduated and the other (me) is in college. But by placing restrictions in which many people I've talked to have considered absurd (going out twice a month for only a few hours max on weekends [before dinner], no jobs until 18 years of age, no choice of moving out), the family is usually unhappy with one another. One major reason is that most of their restrictions are unjustified, and are only based on "instinct"/not fully thought out reasons

Thus because of such, I have tried numerous times to reason with my parents, proving their logic is unjust so that I can have some leeway in my college life. I am the first born generation in the US, so I can sort of see why my parents don't consider college life important and only make us focus on getting a degree. The problem is, they WILL not change the views that they came with. Legally being an adult means nothing to them, going out with friends is something not necessary, the curfew should be at 8:00 PM ALWAYS, no matter when you leave. When I told them about me being an adult and I should have more freedom, they retorted about how that's part of the American view, and find it inferior to their own. Thus, when they wouldn't let me go out one day for no reason (they just stayed around the house that day), I tried for 2-3 hours to show them their logic was flawed and placing restrictions because of their initial beliefs was outright wrong. I was told to be quiet several times (in rude manners), was told they don't have any logic, was told the "my house, my rules" phrase, and many others. I was also threatened with being kicked out of the house because of my reasoning. Thus in the end, because I don't have any financial support because I don't have a job nor do I have anyone willing to accept me (my relatives hate my family), I decided the best thing was to back down. If my parents admit their logic is flawed, and are placing restrictions because they feel like it without thinking it through, how can I place my faith in them? How?

I also got called today by my father before a lecture, who asked me to help him change a filter for a furnace (he's done it several times). I told him it takes an hour to get to college and back included, and I have a lab from 3:30 - 6:30 PM. The time before I have classes. He wanted me to skip to come home and help him change the filter because I have to be there to see how he does it (oh, I've done it several times with him too). I told him if he really feels that skipping a lab session is really important to cleaning a filter. He then asked me if I want to come home or not (he phrased it and made it sound like a threat asking if I wanted to get kicked out or not), and so to avoid a confrontation with students around, I hung up. If you keep threatening to kick out your son, that doesn't mean that there is unconditional love. It means you're willing to just toss him away like he was just a child. Am I being wrong here? Every time I go home, I go home to unhappy parents.

Family counseling failed, because they can lie through their teeth about things. As I stated above, I have no money because I wasn't allowed a job. Is there really anything I can do?

If there are any grammatical errors, some parts are incoherent, I apologize. I'm just typing this as I go. Please do try and respond in a neutral manner before replying :). If one thinks past the superficial thoughts, besides "what a spoiled brat," or "what a whiner," then one can find an answer I seek.


Thanks for those that read. (10 more to lifer! YEAH!)

 

Jeeebus

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let me summarize all the replies you're going to get concisely:

1. If you live under their roof, you live by their rules.

2. If you don't want to live by their rules, get a job and move out.

/END
 

apac

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was told the "my house, my rules" phrase

because I don't have any financial support because I don't have a job nor do I have anyone willing to accept me (my relatives hate my family)

I have no money because I wasn't allowed a job

You are an adult. You are in college. Get a job. Move out of the house. Pay your own rent with said job. Use student loans to pay for college. Problem solved.

Or be their bitch until you get a degree, then use that degree to get a job and move out.

Either way, I am very, very skeptical that you'll listen to anything I or the people here have to say.
 

Aquaman

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Can you and your other sibling who has graduated college move out together?

Cheers,
Aquaman [was raised with very liberal chinese parents :)]
 
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its really sad you even let it get to this point

you aren't happy? be a man, be an adult and support yourself. shame on your parents for making you decide between their approval and your happiness, but you have to make your decision and accept the consequences
 

MovingTarget

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Not that there is anything wrong with multi-generational housing, If people are reasonable about family relationships, then it may actually be a good idea (esp. in this economy). I do think that they should respect your wishes within reason when you are an adult. They cannot expect to have a static relationship with you the same way it was when you were a kid. Relationships between a parent/child are supposed to change over time, and they should accept that, even if you do live there. So, go ahead and get that job and don't make hourlong drives like you mention without a *good* reason. If it proves to be too much for them, then you have your answer - leave.
 

Baked

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Buy life insurance for your parents and hope nothing happens to them?
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: Jeeebus
let me summarize all the replies you're going to get concisely:

1. If you live under their roof, you live by their rules.

2. If you don't want to live by their rules, get a job and move out.

/END

best answer... if they won't let you get a job...get one behind their back and then bam, move out. that'd teach them that their logic failed. you live in america, not... whatever country they came from. you don't want to be those illegal immigrants who can't speak english and can't adapt to the american way of life.
 

MiataNC

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1. Who is paying for your education?
2. Who is paying your living expenses? (food, shelter, clothing, etc)

What has your family sacrificed or given up to give you everything you and your siblings have right now? Did it ever occur to you that they might be postponing their dreams and giving up the things they want to do in order to raise their children the best way they know how and to give them the best possible future?


If you want the freedom to make your own decisions, then you have to support yourself. You obviously want to be your own man, but what are YOU doing to make that happen?

Are you willing to give up all financial and material support from your family?
Are you willing to postpone your education, if that is what it takes to live your own life separate from your family?
Are you willing to work multiple jobs and give up a social life until you get on your feet?
Are you willing to risk living on the streets or crashing on the floor/couch at a friends place for weeks/months at a time?

Solution A (in whatever order you can make work):
GET A JOB
MOVE OUT
SUPPORT YOURSELF

Solution B:
Quit whining, quit trying to change other people, and accept your current living conditions until you implement Solution A




 
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Originally posted by: Jeeebus
let me summarize all the replies you're going to get concisely:

1. If you live under their roof, you live by their rules.

2. If you don't want to live by their rules, get a job and move out.

/END

The "Their rules" nonsense doesn't mean he has to live like it's a prison. The rules of your parents can only go so far before they are just ridiculous.
 

zebano

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If you can't get a job and an apartment at the same time, get a loan (for school + living expenses), then get an apartment (w/ roommates to defray the cost), then get a job pronto!

Honestly, parents like that would drive me insane. They claim that the degree is important but you need to skip a lab in order to change a filter? That's just stupid.
 

mugs

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they retorted about how that's part of the American view, and find it inferior to their own

Your parents are welcome to GTFO. Our inferior views made this country a better place to live than wherever they came from.

America, fuck yeah!
 

James Bond

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Wait - You're in college, and your parents only allow you to go out a couple of times a month? Wtf kind of crazy regime do you guys have going on there?

Can you get a part-time job in secrecy? It should only take a couple weeks to build up enough money to rent your own place.

Or, better yet, live in the dorms.

 

Aquaman

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So your under 18? Wait till your 18........ get a job......... save up.......... move out.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

MiataNC

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
The "Their rules" nonsense doesn't mean he has to live like it's a prison. The rules of your parents can only go so far before they are just ridiculous.

"The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make heaven of Hell, and a hell of Heaven."
John Milton

I am willing to bet the original posters living conditions are not nearly as "prison like" as he paints it.
 

torpid

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Just start ignoring them and doing what you want, meanwhile look for a place to live. If they eventually kick you out for insubordination, at least you got a bit more time of free board.
 

Jeeebus

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Jeeebus
let me summarize all the replies you're going to get concisely:

1. If you live under their roof, you live by their rules.

2. If you don't want to live by their rules, get a job and move out.

/END

The "Their rules" nonsense doesn't mean he has to live like it's a prison.

You're right, which is why I presented option 2 above. Most people in prison don't get that option.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Ricemarine
One major reason is that most of their restrictions are unjustified, and are only based on "instinct"/not fully thought out reasons

This will probably make more sense to you once you have your own kids and realize how foolish teenagers are ;)

No, nothing you can do apart from moving out.
 

Ricemarine

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I guess I kind of figured it'd boil down to being an adult and do things for myself. I am into the belief that one must face their challenges head on, because if there's a will, there's a way. By backing down, it means you give up all hope in finding a resolution to the situation at hand.

Originally posted by: MiataNC
I am willing to bet the original posters living conditions are not nearly as "prison like" as he paints it.
That could be the case, but at the same time, even if I try to convey a neutral position towards this matter, there will always be a little bias since this is from my perspective of things.

Originally posted by: James Bond
Wait - You're in college, and your parents only allow you to go out a couple of times a month? Wtf kind of crazy regime do you guys have going on there?
Can you get a part-time job in secrecy? It should only take a couple weeks to build up enough money to rent your own place.
Or, better yet, live in the dorms.
I doubt I can pass off a part-time job as studying on the weekends. Dorming would probably be a better option, but that means returning home on breaks.

Originally posted by: zebano
If you can't get a job and an apartment at the same time, get a loan (for school + living expenses), then get an apartment (w/ roommates to defray the cost), then get a job pronto!
If I do decide to move out, I actually do have someone willing to move out and share the costs of living for a small apartment. Possibly a better option than dorming.

Originally posted by: MiataNC
1. Who is paying for your education?
2. Who is paying your living expenses? (food, shelter, clothing, etc)

What has your family sacrificed or given up to give you everything you and your siblings have right now? Did it ever occur to you that they might be postponing their dreams and giving up the things they want to do in order to raise their children the best way they know how and to give them the best possible future?
1. Parents were initially willing to pay for my full ride so I wouldn't go out of state, then took it back and now it's only the first year.
2. They are.
I am willing to give up all support from my family. As for postponing my education, although it might be necessary, I'm not sure if I'm willing to do that, since I'm now in the EE department (I did 2 years dual-credit for college/hs, but still have 3 years to go? [I want to aim for a masters if possible]). For the last two questions, it might reflect my maturity at this time, but multiple jobs will inhibit how much I can study and living in the streets, although more than likely an exaggeration, is something I wouldn't want to do. A few friends would allow me to stay for a few days, but weeks/months not possible. They do know of my situation though.

Originally posted by: Aquaman
So your under 18? Wait till your 18........ get a job......... save up.......... move out.

Cheers,
Aquaman
19 now (graduated from HS in June)

Right now my current plans are
-Getting financial aid to at least get the student loans
-Searching for an internship over summer

Any good place to get work that isn't minimum wage (generally)?

I doubt an A.S will help. By moving out, that means I give up the car I drive, since it was originally theirs too and I doubt they'd want me on their insurance after I take this leap. So it probably means I would have to find a job where I can get there via bus, walking, or biking.