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Pepsei

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DMT
I just got my membership card in today! Man what a week!


Go choakonsomedik, i'm so liberal and i love guns, there shouldn't be any gun controls.
 

ribbon13

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Fixed.

He can have his opinion. He already expressed it. How am I suggesting that his first amendment rights be stifled? He had his speech. And it was wrong.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: JDub02
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.

That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.

I like the term "cultural Marxists" .. but your term works as well.

Liberals really aren't "liberal" at all. They're really communists.

You both know nothing of political theory, so stfu.
 

gar3555

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I'm not in the NRA and neither are any of my roommates, but we love guns, and hunting. we have two deer heads, soon to be three in our living room, as well as 5 more skulls in our garage. We hunt all the time, Deer, Turkeys, pheasants, doves, and anything else that moves basically ;). That being said, there is no reason the average person should own anything like that AR that DMT has pictured, you can't hunt anything with it. It's just not necessary. ~ed: also we have enough guns and ammo in our house to hold our own if things go down :)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: JDub02
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.

That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.

I like the term "cultural Marxists" .. but your term works as well.

Liberals really aren't "liberal" at all. They're really communists.

You both know nothing of political theory, so stfu.

:roll:

What else would you call people who push for nanny-state laws and socialism? Anarchists???

 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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I have to be one for membership at my rifle range.

I am also a member of the Illinois State Rifle Association.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: gar3555
I'm not in the NRA and neither are any of my roommates, but we love guns, and hunting. we have two deer heads, soon to be three in our living room, as well as 5 more skulls in our garage. We hunt all the time, Deer, Turkeys, pheasants, doves, and anything else that moves basically ;). That being said, there is no reason the average person should own anything like that AR that DMT has pictured, you can't hunt anything with it. It's just not necessary.

You are a perfect example of why gun rights are jeopardy in this country. I hear the same thing from many hunters.

I?ll be sure to speak up for you when they come for your deer rifles, oops I mean ?high powered sniper rifle?.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: JDub02
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.

That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.

I like the term "cultural Marxists" .. but your term works as well.

Liberals really aren't "liberal" at all. They're really communists.

You both know nothing of political theory, so stfu.

:roll:

What else would you call people who push for nanny-state laws and socialism? Anarchists???

Sorry, I've been trying to keep out of conversations with people who talk like 12 year olds? but, if you knew anything about the american progressive movement then you would know that it arose entirely separately from socialism or communism, and that their similarities are merely tangential.
 

gar3555

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You are a perfect example of why gun rights are jeopardy in this country. I hear the same thing from many hunters.

I?ll be sure to speak up for you when they come for your deer rifles, oops I mean ?high powered sniper rifle?.

why am I the reason that gun rights are in jeopardy, I am for the right to bear arms, I don't have to be a member of the NRA to support that do I?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.
That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.
Classical Liberal = Jeffersonian Democrat = modern Libertarian

Modern Liberal Left in the US today = Communist
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: gar3555
You are a perfect example of why gun rights are jeopardy in this country. I hear the same thing from many hunters.

I?ll be sure to speak up for you when they come for your deer rifles, oops I mean ?high powered sniper rifle?.

why am I the reason that gun rights are in jeopardy, I am for the right to bear arms, I don't have to be a member of the NRA to support that do I?

Because you would be willing to sell out the rights of other gun owners just because you think certain firearms are not "necessary".

I don't care if you are an NRA member or not.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Originally posted by: notfred
Fvck you and your "I hate liberals" bullsh!t. Mosty people in this country would probably classify me as a "liberal", but I have absolutely no problem with owning guns.

I think abortion should be legal, I think the war in Iraq was misguided, and I have plenty of other "liberal" beliefs, but none of them have any bearing on my opinion on guns.

Stop being a jackass.

pro choice
pro guns
anti free speech

:thumbsup:

Fixed.

Are you saying I'm anti-free speech?

No, you said it.

Correction, ribbon13 said it.
 

gar3555

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: gar3555
You are a perfect example of why gun rights are jeopardy in this country. I hear the same thing from many hunters.

I?ll be sure to speak up for you when they come for your deer rifles, oops I mean ?high powered sniper rifle?.

why am I the reason that gun rights are in jeopardy, I am for the right to bear arms, I don't have to be a member of the NRA to support that do I?

Because you would be willing to sell out the rights of other gun owners just because you think certain firearms are not "necessary".

I don't care if you are an NRA member or not.


I never said that I would "sell out the rights of gun owners" I just said that a gun like that isn't necessary, and unless you can justify your reason for owning it I'm going to stick by it being unnecessary...ie: you don't need it.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.
That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.
Classical Liberal = Jeffersonian Democrat = modern Libertarian

Modern Liberal Left in the US today = Communist

If we followed your hyperbole to its logical conclusion, then:

Modern Conservative Right in US today = Fascist
 

JDub02

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Sep 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.
That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.
Classical Liberal = Jeffersonian Democrat = modern Libertarian

Modern Liberal Left in the US today = Communist

exactly
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: preslove
Sorry, I've been trying to keep out of conversations with people who talk like 12 year olds? but, if you knew anything about the american progressive movement then you would know that it arose entirely separately from socialism or communism, and that their similarities are merely tangential.
Hardly. Joseph McCarthy may have been an alcoholic, a blowhard, a liar, a paranoid, and an authoritarian himself, but he was absolutely right about how Communism subverted left-wing politics in America (which declassified documents have since confirmed). There is absolutely no question that modern "Democratic Socialism" is actually Communism in disguise.
 

Phokus

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After how the republicans just took a sh1t on the constitution over the terri schiavo case, i don't think you guys have the right to define what 'authoritarianism' and 'fascism' is.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: preslove

Sorry, I've been trying to keep out of conversations with people who talk like 12 year olds? but, if you knew anything about the american progressive movement then you would know that it arose entirely separately from socialism or communism, and that their similarities are merely tangential.

i don't like the term prgressive either.

but, that said, nancy pelosi calling herself 'liberal' is making thomas jefferson spin in his grave.
 

JDub02

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: JDub02
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.

That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.

I like the term "cultural Marxists" .. but your term works as well.

Liberals really aren't "liberal" at all. They're really communists.

You both know nothing of political theory, so stfu.

:roll:

What else would you call people who push for nanny-state laws and socialism? Anarchists???

:D :laugh:
 

ElFenix

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Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: Phokus
After how the republicans just took a sh1t on the constitution over the terri schiavo case, i don't think you guys have the right to define what 'authoritarianism' and 'fascism' is.

how is giving jurisdiction to the federal courts unconstitutional?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
my political science professor in college, when asked by his housemate why he is an NRA member: "of course i have a gun, i'm a democrat in texas"

edit: and, technically, gun grabbing is antithetical to liberals.
That's why they NEED to be relabeled as "Authoritarian Socialists"

There is very little "liberal" about the left in the US today.
Classical Liberal = Jeffersonian Democrat = modern Libertarian

Modern Liberal Left in the US today = Communist
If we followed your hyperbole to its logical conclusion, then:

Modern Conservative Right in US today = Fascist
And I would agree with that. They are Authoritarian Corporatists, aka Fascists.