Any hope for AGP?

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nRollo

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Originally posted by: solofly
People, mobos are cheap, much cheaper than some other components. I don't understand people that can't let go of AGP. You wanna a high end 400+ dollar cards but you can't scoop up ~100 bucks for a compatible mobo?

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I didn't vote.


Not to mention there are S754 PCIE motherboards so you don't even have to update your CPU/RAM if you don't want to.

 

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Originally posted by: Paratus
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I was going to point out the same thing!

Maybe I'll just have to wait for the 7 series PCI card. ;)


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It is kinda amazing isn't it? It has been so long since PCI was the standard, but I suppose systems like the Dell Hot deals that came with no AGP slot create a market for those who eventually want more graphics power than their Intc IGP provides.

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Nice! :cool:
 

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: solofly
People, mobos are cheap, much cheaper than some other components. I don't understand people that can't let go of AGP. You wanna a high end 400+ dollar cards but you can't scoop up ~100 bucks for a compatible mobo?

PS
I didn't vote.


Not to mention there are S754 PCIE SLI motherboards so you don't even have to update your CPU/RAM if you don't want to.
Felt that needed adding, and I should think this will finally make the "skt754 is dead" crowd STFU :p
 

Budarow

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
All bout' da money!

That's why ATI will first offer an X1800 in AGP followed by nVidia (to keep pace). ATI's current financial quarter is DOOM3'ed. They'll do whatever it takes to make revenue/profits to include AGP cards with high end GPUs. Just my guess, but expect an anouncement by March 06 (possibly Feb).
 

Aries64

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Originally posted by: Inappropriate4AT
Honestly, I don't think it really matters. The only PCI-E cards available at this point that AGP can't match are the x1800 and 7800 series. Those are $4-500 range cards, if you're gonna buy a video card with that kind of pricetag I don't think it's gonna hurt you to make the move from your AGP board to one that supports PCI-E. It's all relative, I'd say AGP is dead as far as new/next gen cards are concerned, but don't think it's going to impact anyone.

Personally, while I don't believe that ATI or Nvidia will produce high-end AGP cards, I wish that they would. Why? Because I really like my LIS2 Premium VFD unit, and it uses MBM5 to monitor CPU, NB, and System temps, as well as fan speeds and voltages.

Since MBM5 is no longer supported, when I move to PCI-e I will no longer have the use of my LIS2 Premium VFD. That is the main reason why I have not upgraded to PCI-e. Old habits die hard, and so will AGP.

 

Aries64

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Hacp

Well current AGP does not bottleneck the video card at all, and the only benefits of PCI-E right now are CHeapr to make/Sharing system memory/ dual video cards. ALso, when the transition from PCI to AGP occured, people still made PCI cards that weren't bottlenecked by the PCI slots. However, no new AGP cards are going to be made even though it doens't bottle videocards :(.

Still just the nature of things. PCI showed no benefit over VESA, and AGP no benefit over PCI at first either.
I agree wholeheartly.

Side note: The dual video cards you mention is the single largest advance for the high end gamer in many years as it allows you to have up to 90% more performance than the current highest single card performance. IMO this alone justifies making a bonfire with all the remaining AGP boards on the planet.

No Rollo, that who create too much toxic fumes to be realeased into our already polluted air.
 

Eureka

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Well, it's not a simple as upgrading the motherboard and just plugging everything back in. My CPU socket is already a bit outdated, and there's no point to upgrading the motherboard to PCI-e and still use the older socket. That means I need a new CPU as well. And at doing that, I might as well add better RAM and components.

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If indeed a person has to switch to a PCI-E AMD board from AGP, he is very likely going to buy a nForce4 mobo since there aren't any major direct competitor to it...
that seems like a good reason for Nvidia to not release any new AGP video cards.