Any Herman Cain supporters around here?

[Doppel]

I just watched the interview. http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/06/8195065-cain-stands-by-brainwashing-remarks

Can't lie: The interviewer was basically an asshole. Every single question was trying to squeeze some kind of a hypocrisy or contemptible position out of Cain. It was extremely badly done and embarrassing, in fact. Poor journalism. In fact, it was as much as it pains me to say it "gotcha journalism".

 

[Ausm]

I just watched the interview. http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/06/8195065-cain-stands-by-brainwashing-remarks

Can't lie: The interviewer was basically an asshole. Every single question was trying to squeeze some kind of a hypocrisy or contemptible position out of Cain. It was extremely badly done and embarrassing, in fact. Poor journalism. In fact, it was as much as it pains me to say it "gotcha journalism".

Then don't watch O'Reily's interview of President Obama.

 

[SandEagle]

Cain? lol. sellout

Cain also seemed stumped when Wallace asked him about the principle that Palestinians and their decedents have a right to return to land vacated as a result of the 1948 Palestine War and 1967 Six-Day war.


“Where do you stand on the right of return?” Wallace asked.
“The right of return? The right of return?” Cain stammered.


“The Palestinian right of return,” Wallace clarified.


“That is something that should be negotiated,” Cain explained. “But not under Palestinian conditions. Yes. They should have a right to come back if that is a decision that Israel wants to make. Back to it’s up to Israel to determine the things they will accept.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/...alestinians-should-get-nothing-in-peace-deal/

oh, and he supports banning the building of mosques. what about churches, temples, and synagogues? clearly this woman is against freedom. :\

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-cain-backs-mosque-bans-152052930.html

 

[xj0hnx]

I just watched the interview. http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/06/8195065-cain-stands-by-brainwashing-remarks

Can't lie: The interviewer was basically an asshole. Every single question was trying to squeeze some kind of a hypocrisy or contemptible position out of Cain. It was extremely badly done and embarrassing, in fact. Poor journalism. In fact, it was as much as it pains me to say it "gotcha journalism".

Lawrence O'Donnell is a complete, and utter tool, and that anyone considers him a journalist is pretty pathetic. Even though Cain tried, his inability to handle pressure came through way too much for someone trying to get probably the more stressful job in the country.

 

[Craig234]

Well I myself am hardly "the right" and the way I saw it, Larry was being very agressive towards Cain at times. The way he kept sounding like he was a laywer leading his witness was almost cringe worthy in a few segments. I'm hardly a big fan of Herman Cain and I certainly dont think he could win a general election. btw, I would say the same thing about a partisan right winger like Hannity for example. He sometimes gets very agressive/borederline rude towards a liberal guest/interview. Thats why I like Rachel Maddows show a lot more then Lawrences. She kills people with kindress basically. That and she is more then capable of having a debate with someone she disagrees with without it become tense and agressive. I dont agree with everything she says, but I have a ton of respect for her.

You have sure sounded right-wing to me in recent posts, but you can choose what you affiliate with - but I agree with you, Lawrence was doing that at times. Not great.

I agree with you in part on Maddow, but she can be too gentle and not do enough on the issues sometimes. She loves to have 'GOP buddies' to giggle with.

The best off the top of my head is Thom Hartmann - not on TV though, on radio. Try to catch some of his interviews with right-wing guests, very informative - and civil.

 

[ichy]

Cain is an imbecile and a nut, and an embarrassment to the country. He's a supporter of any number of immoral positions, and deserves to be shunned.

Cain's success in business shows that he's anything but an imbecile. He's probably accomplished more in life than you ever have.

Unfortunately he's also taken some crazy, way-out there social positions. He's beholden to the religious fundie wing of the GOP, which makes him unacceptable.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I saw most of the interview. I dont know a lot about Mr Cain, but I give him a lot of credit going on to Lawrences show. it seemed like Lawrence was trying his best to ambush Mr Cain any chance he could.

What else would you expect from the network that thinks all of America should bow down and felat Obama?

 

[spidey07]

Latest poll shows Cain on top, beating Obama as well. When you need to beat down Obama, use a CAIN!

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html

In news sure to inject shock and awe into the Republican political primary season, a Zogby poll released Thursday showed Herman Cain leading the Republican field, topping former front-runner Mitt Romney by an astonishing 20 points. Cain would also narrowly edge out Obama in a general election, the poll found, by a 46�“44 margin.

 

[CPA]

There are many reasons why Dems are mortified of Cain:

1. He's black
2. He's a businessman, a CEO even!
3. He speaks bluntly
4. He's not politically correct
5. He doesn't kowtow to every whoa-is-me special interest group

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Cain is Bachmann part 2. People heard a few things from him they like, but once they start hearing more they will back away and find someone else to support.

Right now Romney is sitting at 21%

And the 'anyone but Romney' group is sitting at 36% (Perry, Bachmann, Cain)

The question is whether enough people drop out of the race to give someone a real chance to overcome Romney.

Otherwise Romney could win the nomination even though more people would rather see someone else than him.

BTW McCain only won 45% of the vote in 2008

Hard to disagree with this. I understand many "true conservatives" may not be passionate about Romney, but he strikes me as far and away the GOP candidate likeliest to beat President Obama. My feeling is that Romney would probably win a general election, whereas none of the other GOP candidates would be likely to prevail (and yes, I know there are current polls which suggest that they would).

I am a registered Democrat and find Romney somewhat distasteful - he seems like a complete phony who has taken political insincerity and pandering to its logical extreme - but he is clearly very bright. While I philosophically disagree with the modern GOP school of macroeconomics (which is well on its way to eliminating the middle class), Romney is very well qualified and would immediately have a level of credibility with private and public economic powers that President Obama has never really been able to garner. We could certainly do worse. I simply don't believe Perry, Cain or Bachmann is up to the job and I think they would be disastrous picks, something I can't say about Romney.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Latest poll shows Cain on top, beating Obama as well. When you need to beat down Obama, use a CAIN!

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html

Bachmann and Perry have also been ahead of Romney, then flamed out. I simply don't believe the GOP at large, or the general electorate, will support Cain when push comes to shove. He strikes me as one of the dumbest people ever to seek a major-party nomination for President. Romney is playing it smart and ultimately I don't think he has anything to fear from Cain. We shall see . . .

I will also observe this is a Zogby online poll, and their validity has been outright poor, since they are polling only people who have agreed to be among their polling sample (I myself am such a person, though I was not included in this particular poll). The huge Cain margin over Romney in this poll simply can't be legitimate.

 

[Doppel]

Latest poll shows Cain on top, beating Obama as well. When you need to beat down Obama, use a CAIN!

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html

People know what Obama is, most don't have any clue about Cain yet. It's more or less like Obama vs generic Republican, an entity that doesn't exist.

 

[Craig234]

There are many reasons why Dems are mortified of Cain:

1. He's black
2. He's a businessman, a CEO even!
3. He speaks bluntly
4. He's not politically correct
5. He doesn't kowtow to every whoa-is-me special interest group

Everything you list is wrong, except partially 4.

You fail to list a single reason Democrats oppose him, showing you are ignorant.

 

[SandEagle]

Everything you list is wrong, except partially 4.

You fail to list a single reason Democrats oppose him, showing you are ignorant.

you sho? because he looks black to me. :\

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I think the Democrats are licking their chops at the possibility of Cain being the GOP candidate. Obama in a huge landslide.

 

[Craig234]

you sho? because he looks black to me. :\

You didn't understand that why? Yes he's black.

Democrats don't oppose him for being black. What's wrong with you?

 

[etrigan420]

If he runs a country like he makes a pizza...

Fuck. No.

Just another fool in the parade of idiots.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I remember one of those silly internet polls a few weeks back that had you answer a few questions about contentiuos issues in American politics, then aligned you with the candidate who shared most of your views, along with a percentage of similarity. Herman Cain was the only person I had 0% crossover with. According to the issues, I should vote for Bachmann over Cain, which is downright frightening.

My dislike of Cain has nothing to do with anything about his personality. He simply feels differently than I do about virtually every issue in politics. Obviously I would never support him politically.

 

[Craig234]

I remember one of those silly internet polls a few weeks back that had you answer a few questions about contentiuos issues in American politics, then aligned you with the candidate who shared most of your views, along with a percentage of similarity. Herman Cain was the only person I had 0% crossover with. According to the issues, I should vote for Bachmann over Cain, which is downright frightening.

My dislike of Cain has nothing to do with anything about his personality. He simply feels differently than I do about virtually every issue in politics. Obviously I would never support him politically.

We seem to have a surprisingly large population who would go nuts for a candidate who said "F*** YOU DEMOCRATS", flips off the camera and moons them.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

We seem to have a surprisingly large population who would go nuts for a candidate who said "F*** YOU DEMOCRATS", flips off the camera and moons them.

Well you'd have to admire their conviction. The current crop of Democrats makes promises to get elected and then does nothing while in office to actually make those promises into actual policy. The Republicans make promises that would be disastrous for American policy, then get elected and do what they promised to do. At this point, I'd be tempted to vote for a candidate whose only qualification was that he was willing to say "FUCK YOU" to both parties while mooning them.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Lawrence O'Donnell is a complete, and utter tool, and that anyone considers him a journalist is pretty pathetic. Even though Cain tried, his inability to handle pressure came through way too much for someone trying to get probably the more stressful job in the country.

This.

Why Cain thought talking to that tool was a good idea, I'll never know.

 

[Karl Agathon]

You have sure sounded right-wing to me in recent posts, but you can choose what you affiliate with - but I agree with you, Lawrence was doing that at times. Not great.

I agree with you in part on Maddow, but she can be too gentle and not do enough on the issues sometimes. She loves to have 'GOP buddies' to giggle with.

The best off the top of my head is Thom Hartmann - not on TV though, on radio. Try to catch some of his interviews with right-wing guests, very informative - and civil.

I might have sounded right wing in some of my posts because I skew right on certain issues. To which I obviously have a personal right to. Where as I skew center/left of center on others. im not one of those "vote party line just because its my party" people. You obviously lean mostly left from what ive seen and thats fine for you. My political/social feelings span the political spectrum (issue dependent) and arent locked in to any one ideology. As for Thom Hartman, I have listened to him quite a few times in the past. in general, I really like shows where there isnt a 100% echo chamber. its fine with me if a host is slanted right or left, I am actually more interested in their guests and honest debate.

 

[Craig234]

Well you'd have to admire their conviction.

No, I don't. That's not conviction, and it's not something to admire.

The current crop of Democrats makes promises to get elected and then does nothing while in office to actually make those promises into actual policy.

That's an exaggeration. The corporatists do some of it; the progressives try to do what they said.

The Republicans make promises that would be disastrous for American policy, then get elected and do what they promised to do.

There's some tryth to that, but they hardly do what they say.

They have whole right-wing agendas they don't talk about in elections - show me where state Republicans ran on killing union rights and suppressing Democratic voters, their main agendas; and the Congressional Republicans SAID their top issue was to increase jobs, while they haven't passed one word of jobs legislation, instead opposing it, only trying to hurt the economy to help them get the presidency in 2012.

At this point, I'd be tempted to vote for a candidate whose only qualification was that he was willing to say "FUCK YOU" to both parties while mooning them.

And that's a worthless approach, because you will be throwing away your vote to get someone who is simply well funded to get name recognition - to screw you.

And it's not supporting the one political faction that is doing what you SAY you want, opposing corporate corruption. That's the progressives.

 

[Siddhartha]

There are many reasons why Dems are mortified of Cain:

1. He's black
2. He's a businessman, a CEO even!
3. He speaks bluntly
4. He's not politically correct
5. He doesn't kowtow to every whoa-is-me special interest group

You need to let go of race. Actually the problems people have with Mr Cain have to do with his policies and agenda.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

This Cain guy.... he's not Obama, right? Ok. Then I guess I support him.