Any Herman Cain supporters around here?

sportage

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Herman Cain was interviewed tonight 10/6 by Lawrence O'Donnell (MSNBC).
It will be reran on MSNBC.
An extremely contentious interview. I had no idea Cain was so "unelectable".
In the 60's he felt that blacks should have "behaved", sitting at the back of the bus, and not "stir things up".
Gays are gay by choice.
Dogging the draft during the Vietnam war was fine and dandy (for him).
Some interview... thanks to O"Donnell.

The pizza man has a little temper issue to address...
 

xj0hnx

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Herman Cain was interviewed tonight 10/6 by Lawrence O'Donnell (MSNBC).
It will be reran on MSNBC.
An extremely contentious interview. I had no idea Cain was so "unelectable".
In the 60's he felt that blacks should have "behaved", sitting at the back of the bus, and not "stir things up".
Gays are gay by choice.
Dogging the draft during the Vietnam war was fine and dandy (for him).
Some interview... thanks to O"Donnell.

The pizza man has a little temper issue to address...

Cain's just another GOP lapdog, and an idiot. He might have been a good business man, but his politics are fucked.
 

Karl Agathon

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I saw most of the interview. I dont know a lot about Mr Cain, but I give him a lot of credit going on to Lawrences show. it seemed like Lawrence was trying his best to ambush Mr Cain any chance he could.
 

ProfJohn

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Cain is Bachmann part 2. People heard a few things from him they like, but once they start hearing more they will back away and find someone else to support.

Right now Romney is sitting at 21%

And the 'anyone but Romney' group is sitting at 36% (Perry, Bachmann, Cain)

The question is whether enough people drop out of the race to give someone a real chance to overcome Romney.

Otherwise Romney could win the nomination even though more people would rather see someone else than him.

BTW McCain only won 45% of the vote in 2008
 
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Nintendesert

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I'm going to vote for him for the same reason so many voted for Obama, because he's black. And since Cain is full black, that means he must be twice as good!
 

trenchfoot

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Cain's just another GOP lapdog, and an idiot. He might have been a good business man, but his politics are fucked.

Although I don't feel as strongly as you do about him, in essence I agree. He hasn't established himself as a bonafide contender and the feel I get from him is that he is disingenuous and is willing to go the way McCain did to get the nod in the primary.

For that matter, at the moment it's just so difficult for any of the Repub contenders to juggle and successfully reconcile the requirements of the extremist Tea Party with the opposing views of the independents that will make or break a chance for any of them to beat Obama.
 

Zebo

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I'm not even conservative and I like him. Keepin it real. Real dumb maybe but speaks his mind no BS.
 

Doppel

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He appears to have contempt for the common man but unlike most politicians doesn't even try and hide it. He's less electable than Ron Paul and will soon be marginalized back to nothingness and we'll stop even talking about him.
 

irishScott

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If Cain actually won the primary the Democrats would laugh as Obama got a landslide. And I'd be laughing with them.
 

spidey07

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He appears to have contempt for the common man but unlike most politicians doesn't even try and hide it. He's less electable than Ron Paul and will soon be marginalized back to nothingness and we'll stop even talking about him.

You are racist, bigoted and full of hate.
 

sportage

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Bachmann, Perry, Cain.... Are there any sane politicians left to run?
Republicans don't realize that this is not their election to win, this is their election to lose. Give up just one, one single candidate that is a true conservative with a brain AND does not play the game of signing pledges to some tea bagger terrorist.
I mean.... use a shovel and dig someone up to run if needed.
This election cycle is getting too weird.
If Obama is such a doomed president, then why have the republicans been in this dumbed downed self destruction mode?
Gesh.... Isnt Bob Dole still alive and available? Nancy Reagan? Someone?
(I know... way too many questions)
 

xj0hnx

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Bachmann, Perry, Cain.... Are there any sane politicians left to run?
Republicans don't realize that this is not their election to win, this is their election to lose. Give up just one, one single candidate that is a true conservative with a brain AND does not play the game of signing pledges to some tea bagger terrorist.
I mean.... use a shovel and dig someone up to run if needed.
This election cycle is getting too weird.
If Obama is such a doomed president, then why have the republicans been in this dumbed downed self destruction mode?
Gesh.... Isnt Bob Dole still alive and available? Nancy Reagan? Someone?
(I know... way too many questions)

Probably because they really think that there's no way he can win, so they can parade out the craziest of their crazies. It's a tough call but I think this cycles candidates are worse than last time, and I thought Huck, Ghouliani, and Thompson were bad, but those three give them a run for their money. Cain is this cycles Thompson, the "straight talking" dufus that's going nowhere.
 

Craig234

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I saw most of the interview. I dont know a lot about Mr Cain, but I give him a lot of credit going on to Lawrences show. it seemed like Lawrence was trying his best to ambush Mr Cain any chance he could.

The right calls any interview that doesn't begin each question with 'anything you say is correct' an 'ambush'. If the candidate says something idiotic, it's an 'ambush'.
 

Craig234

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Cain is an imbecile and a nut, and an embarrassment to the country. He's a supporter of any number of immoral positions, and deserves to be shunned.
 

Craig234

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Listening to a minute of the interview now, what a mess Cain is in it. Started in the middle, Lawrence confronted Cain that in Cain's own book, he chose not to participate in the civil rights movement. Cain's response was totally evasive - a lot or mealy mouthed statements, implying O'Donnell got it wrong without actually saying anything, for example telling O'Donnell he doesn't know what Cain was doing, maybe he was caring for a sick relative was the reason.

Not a statement he was doing so - just saying O'Donnell doesn't know he wasn't, and that O'Donnell is wrong without saying how.

O'Donnell responded that Cain's book says nothing about caring for someone as the reason, but rather says it was a political choice. Cain just whined.

O'Donnell asked him to justify his claim homosexuality is a choice - asking 'did you choose to be straight?' Cain couldn't even form an answer. All he could say was 'there is a difference of opinion, next question'. Not any ability to defend his pathetic, sellout, immoral position.

To Cain's credit, when Lawrence asked him if he could say he appreciated anything the government did, like the Civil Rights Act, Cain said he was.

Much better answer.

Then he's back to whining. O'Donnell asked how he avoided serving in the Vietnam War, and Cain went on a rant 'do you stay up nights on these questions?'

I think O'Donnell tried to make too much as an attack question about why Cain did not volunteer for Vietnam, and Cain correctly called him on it.

It was unreasonable - and inconsistent, implying anyone who did not volunteer is unfit to be President - a standard both wrong and not applied to Democrats.

(Listening to interview as I type).
 

woodie1

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You people sure make Cain look good. Can't stand Romney or Perry so I just may have to vote for him.
 

xj0hnx

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Cain is an imbecile and a nut, and an embarrassment to the country. He's a supporter of any number of immoral positions, and deserves to be shunned.

So are you, but you're still welcome here :p
 

Budmantom

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Herman Cain was interviewed tonight 10/6 by Lawrence O'Donnell (MSNBC).
It will be reran on MSNBC.
An extremely contentious interview. I had no idea Cain was so "unelectable".
In the 60's he felt that blacks should have "behaved", sitting at the back of the bus, and not "stir things up".
Gays are gay by choice.
Dogging the draft during the Vietnam war was fine and dandy (for him).
Some interview... thanks to O"Donnell.

The pizza man has a little temper issue to address...

Do you guys still burn the cross in front of peoples houses?
 
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Karl Agathon

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The right calls any interview that doesn't begin each question with 'anything you say is correct' an 'ambush'. If the candidate says something idiotic, it's an 'ambush'.

Well I myself am hardly "the right" and the way I saw it, Larry was being very agressive towards Cain at times. The way he kept sounding like he was a laywer leading his witness was almost cringe worthy in a few segments. I'm hardly a big fan of Herman Cain and I certainly dont think he could win a general election. btw, I would say the same thing about a partisan right winger like Hannity for example. He sometimes gets very agressive/borederline rude towards a liberal guest/interview. Thats why I like Rachel Maddows show a lot more then Lawrences. She kills people with kindress basically. That and she is more then capable of having a debate with someone she disagrees with without it become tense and agressive. I dont agree with everything she says, but I have a ton of respect for her.
 

Doppel

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You people sure make Cain look good. Can't stand Romney or Perry so I just may have to vote for him.
Afraid to let you know you'll never have the chance. He'll never get the nomination.

I maintain that more than anything what makes this guy completely unelectable at this time is that he has no empathy at all for the plight of the majority of the electorate. Instead of admitting that, maybe just maybe, there is a problem with the balance of power in the country his response is pull your boot straps up like I did and stop complaining. It's a message that will sour people to him to a degree he has no chance at all of getting past. He has already said enough things that a spin machine could destroy him in 30 second blips.

Obama talks the talk about all this but doesn't walk it because he's weak. Cain doesn't even pretend, he would bend over readily for lobbyists and not represent people well.

But as I also said, we'll soon be over him, he's just another guy who won't get the nomination and it will never, ever be Cain vs Obama.
 
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