Any base Radeon RX 580 reviews?

JimKiler

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I see plenty of reviews of the RX 580 but they are all for the high end boards and i want to see the benchmarks for one that is under 1400 Mhz and under $250 or even better at the $230 mark. Anyone see benchmarks that meets this criteria?
 

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no reference cards and down market versions from OEMs don't get reviewed much. closest you'll get is probably that AT review with the quiet bios setting.
 

JimKiler

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I don't think AMD is releasing a "reference" 580, but Anandtech's review downclocks the Devil to reference clocks for comparison.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11278/amd-radeon-rx-580-rx-570-review

thanks I started reading it and saw it was a higher end card and dismissed the review. I will read it now as I don't want to spend over $230 for a new card. Really i don't want to spend over $200 but we will see what happens and it depends on how it performs based on this review.
 

kawi6rr

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If you can get a 570 or even a 580 below $200 then you're set. There should be at least 570 at or below that.
 

JimKiler

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If you can get a 570 or even a 580 below $200 then you're set. There should be at least 570 at or below that.

All the 570's are below $200 but with 4GB of RAM and I can also get several 580's with 4GB of RAM below $200 which would run better. Too many choices! maybe i should wait for a discounted 8GB 580 to hit $200.
 

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They're exactly the same thing as 480s and 470, just get one of those for really cheap on firesale
 

JimKiler

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They're exactly the same thing as 480s and 470, just get one of those for really cheap on firesale

Huh? The reviews show the 580 and 570 get high FPS than the 480 and 470 so while i would be tempted to get a 480 it would have to be cheap to be enticing.
 

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just find a higher end 480/470 card review and replace the 4 with a 5...

seriously, the difference between the original and the refresh is minuscule at best
 

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I saw a 580 reference card review...................hold on I'll find it.

They do make reference 580's.
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https://videocardz.net/msi-radeon-rx-580-8gb
 

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They do make reference 580's.

Thats not the image AMD has shown, it was a dual fan cooler. Thats just MSI re-using left over coolers similar to how XFX did with 390 that looked like the 290 cooler.

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That's the "reference" card.
 

DaveSimmons

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Huh? The reviews show the 580 and 570 get high FPS than the 480 and 470 so while i would be tempted to get a 480 it would have to be cheap to be enticing.

They are 6% faster but use 30 watts more power under load. The one real new feature is the middle power state for playing videos or doing light 3D while using less power.

So if a 480 is even 15% cheaper then it is a better value.
 

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Thats not the image AMD has shown, it was a dual fan cooler. Thats just MSI re-using left over coolers similar to how XFX did with 390 that looked like the 290 cooler.

AMD-500-series-800x409.png


That's the "reference" card.
did you watch the video?
It was a reference 580 review.

I got it from here. look under NCIXTECHTIPS review,
"It says "REFERENCE 580"
https://videocardz.com/68602/amd-radeon-rx-580-570-review-roundup

here is the video review of the reference 580.
 

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From what I'm seeing, the new models are cheaper and faster for the same SRP but power requirements have gone up. The 570 probably got the biggest bump since the stock memory bandwidth has gone up, and the 550 cheapest entry level model could be useful for gpu hevc decoding/encoding.
 

JimKiler

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They are 6% faster but use 30 watts more power under load. The one real new feature is the middle power state for playing videos or doing light 3D while using less power.

So if a 480 is even 15% cheaper then it is a better value.

30 more watts should not matter to anyone, i am sure we all have PSU's that can support a 580. Does the 580 support Freesync 2? that might be a reason to get one over a discounts 480 but the lack of info suggests these will not support freesync 2 with HDR. However i thought i saw a box on a website earlier today saying it would get support for HDR. i wonder if Vega will get freesync 2 then the next mainstream iteration of cards will get it.
 

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30 more watts should not matter to anyone, i am sure we all have PSU's that can support a 580. Does the 580 support Freesync 2? that might be a reason to get one over a discounts 480 but the lack of info suggests these will not support freesync 2 with HDR. However i thought i saw a box on a website earlier today saying it would get support for HDR. i wonder if Vega will get freesync 2 then the next mainstream iteration of cards will get it.

It's not clear from the press release whether or not Freesync 2 monitors require the 5xx cards instead of just 4xx, but if you plan to buy a F2 monitor with HDR then yes the 580 supports it:

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/radeon-rx-500-series-2017apr18.aspx#

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Smooth, stutter-free gaming with Radeon™ FreeSync – Gamers can enjoy smooth framerates in virtually every game released, without the frustration of screen tearing and input lag using Radeon FreeSync, available on a wide range of affordable displays.5 For those that want to get even closer to pixel-perfect gaming, Radeon™ FreeSync 2 monitors harness low-latency, high-brightness pixels, excellent black levels and a wide color gamut to display high dynamic range (HDR) content, and feature Low Framerate Compensation (LFC) enabling stutter-free gaming when framerates dip below a monitor's refresh rate, all in a completely plug-and-play experience that eliminates the need to tweak settings in software or on the monitor.6

6. Radeon™ FreeSync 2 does not require HDR capable monitors; driver can set monitor in native mode when FreeSync 2 supported HDR content is detected. Otherwise, HDR content requires that the system be configured with a fully HDR-ready content chain, including: graphics card, graphics driver and application. Video content must be graded in HDR and viewed with an HDR-ready player. Windowed mode content requires operating system support. GD-105

30 more watts should not matter to anyone, i am sure we all have PSU's that can support a 580.

I care about noise, and in general more power = more heat = more noise. If you use headphones or a noisy CPU HSF then it probably doesn't matter.

If you use the PC for much video playback then the new middle power state is a good reason to buy the 5xx, since that cuts power (and noise) way down when watching a movie.
 
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kawi6rr

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All the reviews I read said the 580/570 were quiet and cool cards. More power and more heat do not equal more noise.
 
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DaveSimmons

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All the reviews I read said the 580/570 were quiet and cool cards. More power and more heat do not equal more noise.

Homer: "in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!!"

Heat has to be pushed out of the case somehow. More of it means fan(s) have to spin up more, and more often. So your GPU goes from "silent" to "quiet", or the heat rises and spins up the CPU fan. A 30 watt light bulb can make a noticeable difference in the temps inside your case.

But it's true that the GPU, CPU and drives could also be left to run hotter without extra noise, at least in the short term.
 

kawi6rr

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Homer: "The reviews I read only had the 580 a few decibels over the the 1060"

If that's loud then so be it.
 

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Homer: "in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!!"

Heat has to be pushed out of the case somehow. More of it means fan(s) have to spin up more, and more often. So your GPU goes from "silent" to "quiet", or the heat rises and spins up the CPU fan. A 30 watt light bulb can make a noticeable difference in the temps inside your case.

But it's true that the GPU, CPU and drives could also be left to run hotter without extra noise, at least in the short term.

Noise is based entirely on the fans, not the amount of power being consumed. There have been 100W cards there are so loud they are unbearable. And there have been 350W cards that are extremely quiet. The new cards use 30W more, but they may also have a better heat sink, better fans, etc, which means they are quieter because the heat is dispersed more efficiently.
 
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OP: I would just get a 480 with your budget concern and just OC it instead of trying to find a slow and cheap 580.